Macho men! Adventures in 'Testosterona'

@cccmedia I have had HRT on my "medical todo" list for a while now. Thanks for this VALUABLE information!

@cccmedia This is good news! Thanks for sharing

@cccmedia Quick follow-up question: is Kyzatrex (or whatever the generic version is) available in Colombia? And if so, is a prescription needed there?

@N.Barley Did it work?

@nico peligro I already eat clean, drink lots of water, and lift weights. Been doing these things for over a decade, and yet I am losing mass, getting skinnier and bonier every year. So I need to try and stabilize or reverse this upsetting trend.

@cccmedia, I am familiar with you from the Expats Echange forum.  We are heading to Ecuador to check EC out for expat living.

I have a presecription in the US for testosterone propionate, which I self administer via injection.  I am trying to figure out how I can continue the acquire the medications that I am legally allowed to recieve.  Hoping to find a pathway in South America, that won't cause me trouble at border crossings.

Any info on injectable propionate between EC, Colombia, Chile, etc would be quite helpful. 

You ca

You can do a search for

colombia testosterona inyección

and get several hits for sources of the medication. While it is legal, you must have a valid prescription.

I don't think it's as easily available in Ecuador.

Dear Anonymous,

Bella Vie clinic in Medellín just emailed me that

they're out of T. 

I don't use or recommend self-injectables and

have only had treatment via pellets.

If you're flying through Mexico City, there's

a Dr. Dickter (you can Google) and the

Anti-Aging Clinic which claims to be

the longest-established in Mexico.  I do

not have personal experience with

these providers and thus cannot offer

a personal recommendation.

According to my Internet research, it's

routine for a doctor to supply patients

with an airport letter authorizing use

of T products.

Dr. Blum, mentioned above, works out of

Guayaquil.  He supposedly was visiting

Quito weekly but did not come here during

the Paro in June so I went to the clinic

in Medellín instead (no longer

available at this time).

Good luck.  Please report back

if you meet with success.

cccmedia in Quito

I have a presecription in the US for testosterone propionate, which I self administer via injection. I am trying to figure out how I can continue the acquire the medications that I am legally allowed to recieve. Hoping to find a pathway in South America, that won't cause me trouble at border crossings.

Any info on injectable propionate between EC, Colombia, Chile, etc would be quite helpful.
-@Anonymous User

Anonymos User,

Since you have a prescription, did your doctor authorize you to self-administer your own injections, which is quite common these days?

@Anonymous UserSince you mention Chile, you might be able to get there if not Colombia.https://www.cruzverde.cl/sustenan--testosterona-250-mg-1-ampolla/58026.htmlAppears, that pharmacy is in Colombia as well:https://www.cruzverde.com.co/sustenna--2-agujas-suspension-inyectable-de-liberacion-prolongada-75-mg0.75ml-100mgml-caja-x-1-jeringa-prellenada/COCV_100315.html

Anonymous User,

Since you have a prescription, did your doctor authorize you to self-administer your own injections, which is quite common these days?
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Yes, I have been on self administered injections, twice weekly, for four years, now.  I choose that due to the massive 10:1 cost difference compared to pellets.  It's really not an issue for me.  27G needles, especially the shorties, are barely noticeable.  I have done some medical training, so I follow best practices and have never had any issues other than some bruising about 1cm across.  No biggie.

Thnaks to all for the helpful feedback in this thread.  I will be bringing 6 months of meds with us, but if customs or other create problems, I would like to know how to replenish. Also, for longer term living, should we choose to remain.  My doctor is on board with my expat desires, and is supportive of this.  I get exhaustive blood tests every six months, and am in a sweet spot for my biochemistry at the moment.

While we are talking Colombia medical tourism, can anyone comment on the wisdom of getting dental implants done in Medellin vs Cuenca, EC?  Quality, cost, reputation, visas. etc?

Eeek, just looking at the Medellin link.  It would be $178 USD per week!  I currently pay ~$4.60 USD a week in a six month supply. 

I guess I will be muling and portaging my own from the US.  Though, the Chilean prices are better, if i needed to get some in a pinch.

@Anonymous User

I get exhaustive blood tests every six months, and am in a sweet spot for my biochemistry at the moment.

I suppose as it relates to testosterone injections, the PSA test is the most important one for consideration?

As for cost of it in Colombia, I was surprised as well. I assume you must have health insurance covering most of the cost in the U.S.?

FWIW, besides Nebido in Ecuador mentioned earlier, I have noticed Androgel available at times on the Fybeca website which is a testosterone in gel form applied to the shoulder area typically.  I may give it a try sometime, since no prescription required. I would say a month supply if applied daily would be around $75.

As for your other questions, consider using an existing thread or create a new one if needed, since the boss wants to stay on topic.

Looking for Mr. Good-T.

I have been scouring the Internet for T

pellet treatment from Colombia

down to Peru.

The Guayaquil-based physician, Dr. Blum,

stopped coming to Quito (my home city)

before and during El Paro in June.  I called

his 'consultorio' in the Big G this week and

asked whether he has resumed his

previously-weekly visits to his Quito location.

The receptionist didn't know if he still

comes to Quito .. and the receptionist

said that he would follow up by email.

He hasn't yet done so after several days.

I emailed two clinics in Bogotá after

Bella Vie clinic there (where I had the

pellet treatment in July) informed me

they are not doing the therapy these days.

The Bogotá clinics have not responded

after three days.

Today I received a return email from

rejuvemedlima.com in Lima, Peru, in which

I was informed they would be pleased

to have me as a patient at a cost of

"1200$" for an 8-pellet treatment.

I emailed back to get clarification on

whether the amount cited is in dollars

or soles.  I pointed out that I paid

under 500 USD in July for 8-pellet

T treatment.

cccmedia in Quito

A four week supply if injectable is $20 U.S. in the Houston area. I doubt it would be more expensive in Colombia. As a previous poster mentioned the needles can be fine. I use a larger gauge needle to extract it from the vial that I slightly warm and then switch to a smaller gauge needle for injection. It is virtually painless and I have never had any issues with bleeding or bruising. I do get my wife to do the injection as the liquid is thick and a fair amount of force is needed to inject. Over all have been happy with the results.

lpd

@Lpdiver Yes, I get three month supplies of 200mg/mL Testosterone Cypionate/Propionate for $60 in the US.  This is without insurance, credit card price.  Paying cash for my HRT doctor is the big expense, running me about $1300 a year in the US.  But, I have a legal prescription, and screening against complications is worth it.Reading that Cruz Verde pharmacy website and translating COP -> USD on XE.com showed $178USD for two doses (1 week for me).  Seems like the powers that be in Colombia don't want people doing HRT for whatever reasons, not going to speculate.

Here we go: Testoviron depot. Found it on a FB expat page. < $10 for 250ml.

XXX:https://www.farmalisto.com.co/formulados/33845-testoviron-depot-250-mg-caja-con-1-jeringa-precargada-de-1-ml-rx-7702123007456.html

Testosterone propionate/testosterone enanthate, sold under the brand name Testoviron depot, is an oil-based mixture of testosterone esters for depot intramuscular injection which is marketed in Europe. Its constituents include: Testosterone propionate Testosterone enanthate Wikipedia

In Ecuador, Testoviron depot is called Primoteston Depot, apparently. Less than $10 in both countries actually.

XXX:https://www.pharmacys.com.ec/pharmacys/genitourinario-y-hormonas-sexuales/-primoteston-250mcg-bayer-ampolla-inyectable

FDA approves oral TRT via capsule.
The USA's Food and Drug Administration(the FDA) has just approved a twice-a-daytestosterone replacement capsule called Kyzatrex, developed byMarius Pharmaceuticals.

While who knows when if it will be available in "Gran Colombia" anytime soon, I wanted to point out the disqualifying factors for those who always heed medical advice:

Who should not take Kyzatrex?

Do not take Kyzatrex if you:

• have breast cancer.
• have or might have prostate cancer.
• are a woman who is pregnant. Kyzatrex may harm your unborn baby.
• are allergic to Kyzatrex or any ingredients. See the end of this page for a complete list of ingredients.
• have low testosterone without certain medical conditions. For example, do not take Kyzatrex if you have low testosterone due to age.

Souce: drugs punto com

Feel free to share changes in periodic PSA test scores in the comments below.

@N.Barley  Thanks very much for looking those up. Those prices seem a lit better.  Still, it comes out to roughly double what I am paying in the US.  But, if I run out and there's a need, it is good to know of the availability.

I just had a meeting with my doctor, and got a letter of medical justification, which I will also translate to Spanish.  Plus the presciption itself. 

I'm bringing down six months of medicine.  After that, we'll see what the options are.  Maybe DHL, maybe buy locally.

Cheers!

@Anonymous User You may be able to get it through Amazon.

After going through chemotherapy for 3 years i had no energy until, my doctor started me on test.I have been  using injectable testosterone in Medellin for 2 years. Once every 3-4 weeks it comes in preloaded syringes $53,000 pesos each. Its not a thick liquid (as stated by others) i have never had any issues only great results.

@gmichaelrude

Hello, Do you have the brand name, dose (ml) and the name of the pharmacy where it is available in Medellin?

@N.Barley you can get it at most small farmacias the bigger chain storez will ask for a script. I dont have the name bjt will be getting another dose the end of the month and post it here. I know its 250ml the syringe comes in 2 parts ....the body with test. and the needle seperate.  Its much different than in the states, its clear liquid not brown and not thick like syrup. First time in the states it took more than a minte o mas to finidh the injection.