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Fred

Yes Fred you are right. How did I ever manage to live 65 years without your guidance? Look it up on the BBC yourself. I'm busy with affairs of state. If you lack the skills, I can recommend secretarial services to help you out.
And yes, Russia is the enemy. Stop trolling 🧌

For the first, I'd guess at dumb luck.


Prove your claim. I know you can't so I'm sure you'll come up with another weak excuse to avoid proving it.


Asking you to prove the varacity of your assertion is not trolling, it's asking for proof. As I said, I believe that's in your head as a result of reading and believing propaganda,  but not a fact to be seen.

The history of US/Russia relationships from 1917 onwards has always been Russia either doing the same as the US (albeit less efficiently)  and the US being plain wrong. The US sent troops to Russia in 1918 to support the white forces, but they lost that one.

Gary Powers was a prime example- A hero in US eyes, but really just a spy that was caught invading Russian airspace.

You say Russia is a threat, so I request you prove it.

After all, debate is about changing minds, not throwing a tantrum and asking your interlocutor to prove your points.

fluffy2560

....at, I'll send my hard earned to the fake government as soon as Zelensky gives up his many millions to his country.I would like that to include his dodgy offshore funds.https://www.occrp.org/en/project/the-pa … ner-circleStill, you can send him your cash if you feel especially stupid one day.What, you don't know he's corrupt? GOSH! - @Fred


Not reading your links.  Too busy with more important matters.


Have you ever been to Coventry Fred?


I have a feeling you'll be taking a virtual trip there very shortly.

Fred

Not reading your links. Too busy with important matters.Have you ever been to Coventry Fred?I have a feeling you'll be taking a virtual trip there very shortly. - @fluffy2560

Yes, sticking your fingers in your ears and singing, "La la lar" is also a common way for those unable to back up their assertions to hide from their responsibility to prove their points.

The links show your hero Ukrainian president has offshore accounts that were uncovered in a vast investigation by independant journalists.

He's asking for your cash, but he's hiding his dodgy money.

Still, fools will believe him.

SimCityAT

Greece agreed on Friday to import 700 million cubic metres of U.S. liquefied natural gas per year starting in 2030 in its first long-term deal with Washington, which seeks to replace Russian supplies to Europe.

fluffy2560

Greece agreed on Friday to import 700 million cubic metres of U.S. liquefied natural gas per year starting in 2030 in its first long-term deal with Washington, which seeks to replace Russian supplies to Europe. - @SimCityAT

That's interesting. You'd think Greece would be getting gas from say, Libya or fields off Cyprus or Israel (contentious).  Italy has some oil fields too. And Romania.  Azerbaijan isn't so far.


Most of these countries should be building at least one LNG terminal per country and interconnecting pipelines.

Fred

Greece agreed on Friday to import 700 million cubic metres of U.S. liquefied natural gas per year starting in 2030 in its first long-term deal with Washington, which seeks to replace Russian supplies to Europe. - @SimCityAT

Of course that means the US makes a lot of money.  That minor detail isn't mentioned because it ruins the 'Putin's war' narrative when you realise it's all about cash.

Another point that isn't mentioned is how Greece has signed a massive deal with Exxon for offshore gas and how the US is actively blocking renewable energy deals in favour of selling US oil and gas.

Fred

Back to giving corrupt Zelensky your money.


https://www.occrp.org/en/project/the-pa … ner-circle


Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and his partners in comedy production owned a network of offshore companies related to their business based in the British Virgin Islands, Cyprus, and Belize.
Zelensky’s current chief aide, Serhiy Shefir, as well as the head of the country’s Security Service, were part of the offshore network.
Offshore companies were used by Shefir and another business partner to buy pricey London real estate.
Around the time of his 2019 election, Zelensky handed his shares in a key offshore company over to Shefir, but the two appear to have made an arrangement for Zelensky’s family to continue receiving money from the offshore.


I will send all my money to one of his London addresses- After all he can hardly afford the council tax.

Fred

Zelensky corruption is not new


https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/1 … -lobbying/


Shhhh, don't read that or people might not send him money.

Fred

The pseudo-democracy run by the known to be corrupt Zelensky excluded voters from areas that are likely to vote against him.


https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/uk … le-voters/


The European Court of Human Rights found that Ukraine is unjustly barring people who've fled the conflict in eastern Ukraine from voting in local elections.

https://www.courthousenews.com/rights-c … elections/


This is hardly mentioned as it shows that Ukraine isn't a democracy as many claim in order to push the anti-Russia fairy tale.

Fred

https://www.nin.rs/english/news/84799/w … n-agencies


"I will remove corruption", lied Zelensky.

"I will take control of the anti-corruption departments to protect my corrupt pals", he said - not lying for a change.

fluffy2560

Hungary has financial shield agreement with Washington, Orban says


Doesn't sound like he actually got anything that he didn't already have.


Caught between the West and Russia, could Georgia be the next Ukraine?


Georgia circling the EU plughole?

Fred

Caught between the West and Russia, could Georgia be the next Ukraine?
Georgia circling the EU plughole? - @fluffy2560

Ah, this is very much like the US FARA law that allows foreign journalists to be arrested if the US doesn't like what they say.


https://www.politico.com/newsletters/po … s-00177425


Of course, when the US does it, it's a good thing, but others aren't allowed to stop the US doing it in their countries.

fluffy2560

Researchers say they verified and sequenced Hitler’s DNA. What they discovered is a controversial bombshell


It seems like there might be some truth in the WW2 soldier's song - told to me I think by my father who was a WW2 veteran:


Hitler only has one ball

The other is in the Albert Hall

...etc


Probably explains why he didn't have any kids too.

SimCityAT

@fluffy2560

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fluffy2560

@fluffy2560
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I just read about the split on CNN.  While I enjoy observing the infighting, we should not forget who MTG actually is.  What she's said in the past should never be forgotten.


Will the Epstein files bring down Trump?  No, I doubt it.   But why is he calling it a hoax?  No-one has seen what's in the entire thing yet.  So is he saying that because he's likely implicated?


And the Clinton claims and investigation seem pretty implausible. It seems to be rather pointless as a diversion, driven by Trump's very visible idea everyone is trying to get him.

fluffy2560

Apparently the HU State of Emergency has been extended 180 days. This then encompasses the election in April 2026


The negative rumour mill is that OV is intending to seize power on the basis of an emergency if Magyar Peter wins the general election.

SimCityAT

Trump being Trump.....


Wife of murdered Saudi journalist says 'zero justice' has been served after Trump dismisses US intelligence findings

fluffy2560

Trump being Trump.....
Wife of murdered Saudi journalist says 'zero justice' has been served after Trump dismisses US intelligence findings - @SimCityAT

Yes, that behaviour of Trump's is going to increase the likelihood of his downfall.


He doesn't like female journalists (perhaps women in general) and he always creates a diversion at the beginning of his answer. 


Trump, who just called a female reporter ‘piggy’, rages at ABC News journalist for being too mean to him


This kind of thing might be some other thing in his head, like his mind is going (more) ga-ga.

fluffy2560

US military officials in Ukraine amid reports of draft Russia peace plan


I cannot see Ukraine accepting  the conditions Russia has demanded in the latest peace plan.


It continues to baffle me and many others why Trump is so subservient to Putin.  Everyone talks about Kompromat but we don't have any evidence for that.


I find it odd that these "peace envoy" types are going there to achieve nothing much at all.

Fred

Zelenskyy is known to be bent, and Trump's honesty is only believed by blithering idiots.

There's been a deal.

SimCityAT

Zelenskyy is known to be bent, and Trump's honesty is only believed by blithering idiots.
There's been a deal. - @Fred


Sun 3 Oct 2021 12.30 EDT

fluffy2560

Without Europe? 


EU countries demand seat at the table over US-Russia plan to end war in Ukraine


The European Union is pushing back against a 28-point plan to end the war in Ukraine, reportedly being drafted behind closed doors by the US and Russia, demanding that any diplomatic attempt must have Kyiv and European leaders at the table. The plan, first reported by US outlet Axios, is said to include terms that would be highly disadvantageous for Ukraine, such as the complete surrender of the Donbas, which Russian forces have failed to entirely control, and limitations on the armed forces.


Makes me wonder why would the US push this now?  It's clearly never going to be acceptable to the Ukrainians.  They'd fight with shovels. It seems Trump is living in multiple parallel universes to the rest of us.


Maybe it's just a diversion over Epstein.  Even that seems doubtful now because it looks like it could be be redacted. 


The peace proposal is supposed to include security guarantees by the USA.  But from what we've seen, no-one is completely sure anyone can trust them, not even NATO.  It won't be worth the paper it's written on.   The Americans seem to have forgotten about the Budapest Memorandum.


Meanwhile, I am surprised how quickly MTG has "changed" tack on Trump (skip forward to 58s):


GOP Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene hits back at Trump: 'I've never owed him anything'


Apparently her epiphany came when Charlie Kirk got shot.  She said her previously hateful speech put her on the firing line.  Well no sh** Sherlock.   Never seen someone grow a conscience so fast.  Her definition of traitor was rather pointed - someone who serves foreign governments.  I wonder who she could have been referring to?

Fred

Without Europe?
EU countries demand seat at the table over US-Russia plan to end war in Ukraine

Makes me wonder why would the US push this now? It's clearly never going to be acceptable to the Ukrainians. They'd fight with shovels. It seems Trump is living in multiple parallel universes to the rest of us.
): - @fluffy2560

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/ukrai … ment-army/


Even the young men who are kidnapped from the streets, and the thousands who have fled the country?

fluffy2560

Without Europe? EU countries demand seat at the table over US-Russia plan to end war in UkraineMakes me wonder why would the US push this now? It's clearly never going to be acceptable to the Ukrainians. They'd fight with shovels. It seems Trump is living in multiple parallel universes to the rest of us. ): - @fluffy2560https://responsiblestatecraft.org/ukrai … ment-army/Even the young men who are kidnapped from the streets, and the thousands who have fled the country? - @Fred


I was actually quoting the Ukrainian foreign minister in 2024 during an ABC News interview. 


He said:


"Even if we run out of weapons, we will fight with shovels," he told ABC News during an interview in the Ukrainian capital, "Because what is at stake here for Ukraine is the existence of this nation."


Make of it what you will.  How is Coventry?

Fred

Of course,  if a Ukrainian man has fled to avoid being forced to kill people, he can't renew his passport.

They are forced to live as illegal immigrants.


https://theloop.ecpr.eu/ukraine-is-cons … tly-legal/


Then we come to the East of the country.

Most there are pro-Russian so don't want to fight for the Ukrainian puppet government


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8r08zmkjlzo

Fred

Without Europe? EU countries demand seat at the table over US-Russia plan to end war in UkraineMakes me wonder why would the US push this now? It's clearly never going to be acceptable to the Ukrainians. They'd fight with shovels. It seems Trump is living in multiple parallel universes to the rest of us. ): - @fluffy2560https://responsiblestatecraft.org/ukrai … ment-army/Even the young men who are kidnapped from the streets, and the thousands who have fled the country?  - @FredI was actually quoting the Ukrainian foreign minister in 2024 during an ABC News interview. He said:"Even if we run out of weapons, we will fight with shovels," he told ABC News during an interview in the Ukrainian capital, "Because what is at stake here for Ukraine is the existence of this nation."Make of it what you will. How is Coventry? - @fluffy2560

Believing politicians without checking is always unwise, especially when they use selective truth. In this case ignoring the extremely unpopular street conscription (kidnappings).


However, turning to personal attacks, accusations,  or other non-arguments are a sure sign an interlocutor has no effective points to present in order to support their position.


Perhaps you would like to offer compelling reasons that enhance your case.

fluffy2560

Coventry - there's more there than one might have thought:


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Fred

Coventry - there's more there than one might have thought:
- @fluffy2560

Quod erat demonstrandum

SimCityAT

On this day........


2002 – NATO invites Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia and Slovenia to become members.

SimCityAT

Ukraine banned from Nato, Russia readmitted to the G8 and territory ceded: what’s in Trump’s draft plan


Donald Trump’s latest plan for ending the war in Ukraine would see territory ceded to Russia, Russia readmitted to the G8 and Ukraine banned from joining Nato, according to drafts of the proposal seen by Axios, AFP and the Associated Press.


Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy said he expected to discuss the plan with Trump “in coming days,” adding any deal must bring a “dignified peace” with “respect for our independence, our sovereignty.”

Fred

On this day........
2002 – NATO invites Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia and Slovenia to become members. - @SimCityAT

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ … ters-today


Yes, NATO really started their military threats to Russia back then.

Take a look at a map - Ukraine joining would leave Moscow open to a pincer attack.

Given how many countries the US has attacked since 1946, Putin felt the only way to stop US aggression was by taking control of Ukraine after the US run coup.

Fred

Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy said he expected to discuss the plan with Trump “in coming days,” adding any deal must bring a “dignified peace” with “respect for our independence, our sovereignty.” - @SimCityAT

It's all down to the bribe Zelensky gets.

It'll be enough to set him up for life, and screw the people he's betraying

fluffy2560

Ukraine banned from Nato, Russia readmitted to the G8 and territory ceded: what’s in Trump’s draft plan
Donald Trump’s latest plan for ending the war in Ukraine would see territory ceded to Russia, Russia readmitted to the G8 and Ukraine banned from joining Nato, according to drafts of the proposal seen by Axios, AFP and the Associated Press.

Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy said he expected to discuss the plan with Trump “in coming days,” adding any deal must bring a “dignified peace” with “respect for our independence, our sovereignty.” - @SimCityAT

Zelenskyy words are playing it right massaging the Gingerbread Man's ego.   


The Russian wish list seems to be just the same as it ever was - unserious. 


From what I'm seeing in the USA, Trump is likely to be a lame duck President very soon.  Polls are showing him -16% underwater on his Presidency.  With the mid-terms so close, this looks bad for him and his supporters.

SimCityAT

@fluffy2560

When Fox News starts to report that Trump's approval ratings are hitting rock bottom, then you know Trump must be feeling the kick in the teeth. But he will probably shrug it off and call the reporters names, saying it's fake news.

fluffy2560

@fluffy2560When Fox News starts to report that Trump's approval ratings are hitting rock bottom, then you know Trump must be feeling the kick in the teeth. But he will probably shrug it off and call the reporters names, saying it's fake news. - @SimCityAT


Good point.  His numbers are down in polls.  Seems like not many believe affordability is under control.


He has been saying Fake News a lot but it's becoming a bit tired. 


Be like that fad for Labubu Dolls except Delulu Dolls with Trump's face. Someone got there before me. Looks too happy.  Maybe the Fad of the Teflon Don is over since he had to cave over Epstein.


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SimCityAT

@fluffy2560

He has now scrapped the 40% tariffs with Brazil. This means the costs will come down for things like Coffee. He will take the credit for lowering prices when it was he who caused them to increase. But his MAGA cult is too stupid to understand this and think he is lowering prices like he said he would from day one.

SimCityAT

President Donald Trump on Wednesday accused Georgetown University’s law school of canceling graduation ceremonies five years ago as a way to avoid highlighting his daughter Tiffany’s academic success rather than as a precautionary measure during the height of the Covid-19 pandemic in the spring of 2020.

fluffy2560

President Donald Trump on Wednesday accused Georgetown University’s law school of canceling graduation ceremonies five years ago as a way to avoid highlighting his daughter Tiffany’s academic success rather than as a precautionary measure during the height of the Covid-19 pandemic in the spring of 2020. - @SimCityAT

That's off the wall stupid. 


Fundamental question is if he has dementia?


My view on dementia (having seen and interacted with people with it) is that it brings out extremist and unreasonable views before other decline happens.  He's of the right age - I think he's 79.  Anyone over 75 has to be suspect.


To me, it's one of the fundamental questions - is that person behaving more out of character?  It seems like he's even more loopy than he was before.

fluffy2560

@fluffy2560He has now scrapped the 40% tariffs with Brazil. This means the costs will come down for things like Coffee. He will take the credit for lowering prices when it was he who caused them to increase. But his MAGA cult is too stupid to understand this and think he is lowering prices like he said he would from day one. - @SimCityAT

US-style coffee?  No thank you. 


I bought some Brazilian style coffee in a local discount store. It was a Brazilan/Colombian mix made by Omnia.  That's a well known brand in Europe.  That version not that good.  We moved on to another tin/packet from the company Illy.  It's a lot nicer and even better we got it as a gift.


40% tariff.  Dimwitted.

SimCityAT

@fluffy2560

America imports the most coffee from Brazil and Colombia. Coffee beans are coffee beans; what they do with them afterwards is their problem. I can't stand it either, their filter coffee is bloody awful.


When I have had American friends over, and had our coffee, they have said they will invest in a proper coffee machine and will never go back to filter coffee.


On my sister's last day with us. We were all knackered, in the 1st district of Vienna, we popped into Starbucks for a coffee. Oh gawd, my missus and I had a black coffee, and it was filtered. It was like dishwater.