High-fructose corn syrup

I started looking at the ingredients lists on packets, always going for brands with less sugar, but also noting how much added sugar was in many products. Fruit drinks varied, the worst containing twice the sugar of the best.
When it boils down to it, we're being scammed by the food industry in epic fashion, many products having sugar rammed into them to achieve what they term "The bliss point", the amount they know is the most addictive.

If you feel a bit tubby, try it on the grounds it can't hurt and it's an amazingly easy diet to follow.
Nothing special needed, no advisors charging fees, and no feeling like you're being tortured.

Interesting...  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bliss_point_(food)

kittycat1 wrote:

Interesting...  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bliss_point_(food)

I read the geek versions of that piece, but the upshot is the same - The sugar industry is deliberately hooking people on their products in order to maximise profit. It took a day or two of limited sugar intake to reset my body, but I feel seriously fantastic all the time now, and there was absolutely no effort except reading labels. There's none of the usual diet stuff where you count intake and force yourself to eat less, you simple don't care about eating more than you need.

I'm too full with my normal portions so I'm going to chop them by half and see what happens. If I still feel hungry, I can always eat a bit more, but I suspect I will be fine.

You only live once

Great post Fred. Yeah the amount of sugar in stuff is amazing, and I have a bit of a sweet tooth since I quit drinking years ago. I keep starting on a lower sugar diet and then something comes up to tempt me, usually having dinner out, or when I'm tired it really increases the sugar craving to get a quick energy boost. I also need to cut portion size.

I'm not low carb or Keto or anything like that, but have also found it really does help to eat a little fat with carbs, like with my morning oatmeal. That way my blood sugar doesn't spike so much.

and it is all made with GMO corn

Yes it is. Almost all the corn and soybeans in the US  (93%) are GMO now.

I'm a little unsure of the wisdom of GM crops, more so when there's already enough food to feed the world if we weren't so bad at managing it.

Fat slobs in McD compared to starving millions in other places. Bit sad really.

Life is not worth living without chocolate (and occasional other sugary sins).
But reducing it to (really only) occasional is certainly not a bad idea.
I try to east less meat and more vegetables as well.

This is odd. Two normal, or reduced meals per day fills me up happily, that meaning the diet is really easy to follow, but weight loss seems to be standing still at 3 kg. However, my wife gave me a hug and noted her fingertips used to touch, but now she can touch her wrists. My belt is also in 3 holes.
As it's absolutely no effort, my stomach is satisfied, and I feel a million times better, I'm staying with avoiding excess sugar (especially fructose) and out to see what happens.

you don't see the danger..
untill you see the 'wolf' ears'

I've hit a problem - I'm eating so little sugar I can't drink my favourite coffee any more.
It's just too sweet so that's the end of that.

Fred wrote:

I've hit a problem - I'm eating so little sugar I can't drink my favourite coffee any more.
It's just too sweet so that's the end of that.

What is your favorite coffee?

Philippine Destiny wrote:

Fred wrote:

I've hit a problem - I'm eating so little sugar I can't drink my favourite coffee any more.
It's just too sweet so that's the end of that.

What is your favorite coffee?

Just a local packet coffee I took a liking to, but it's just too sweet now.

Fred wrote:

Philippine Destiny wrote:

Fred wrote:

I've hit a problem - I'm eating so little sugar I can't drink my favourite coffee any more.
It's just too sweet so that's the end of that.

What is your favorite coffee?

Just a local packet coffee I took a liking to, but it's just too sweet now.

Just asking because if it is three in one then it is probably full of transfat/hydrogenated oil. The worst kind of fat. I won't say all of the packet coffee contains transfats, but they might. It's good for you that you quit drinking it.

It probably is a good move regardless. I haven't bought any since I started this thread and won't be finishing  off what I have.

Sugar is not inherently bad. The natural sugars in fruit and milk are beneficial. It is the added sugars in manufactured food that cause endless harm to the body. In moderation, they would not be as dangerous, but they are not added in moderation.

The WHO recently revised their recommendation that an average sized adult consume no more than 25g of sugar per day. To put that into context, a 355ml can of Coke has 39g of added sugar, not including natural sugars. A single can is 156% of what you should intake that day.

beppi wrote:

Life is not worth living without chocolate (and occasional other sugary sins).
But reducing it to (really only) occasional is certainly not a bad idea.
I try to east less meat and more vegetables as well.

Dark chocolate has significantly less added sugar than milk chocolate.

Khalida.UNC wrote:

Sugar is not inherently bad.

True, but the added sugar most definitely is, especially the fructose that's commonly added by many manufacturers.
Check the research on the subject.

Fred wrote:

Khalida.UNC wrote:

Sugar is not inherently bad. The natural sugars in fruit and milk are beneficial. It is the added sugars in manufactured food that cause endless harm to the body. In moderation, they would not be as dangerous, but they are not added in moderation.

The WHO recently revised their recommendation that an average sized adult consume no more than 25g of sugar per day. To put that into context, a 355ml can of Coke has 39g of added sugar, not including natural sugars. A single can is 156% of what you should intake that day.

True, but the added sugar most definitely is, especially the fructose that's commonly added by many manufacturers.
Check the research on the subject.

This is a bizarre response. I specifically mentioned added sugars in manufactured food and the latest WHO research.

I like bizarre, more so when the specific point is added fructose, not sugar in general.
There is little arguement, except by the sugar industry, that too much of the stuff is bad news, but it's HFCS I'm avoiding, not just excess sugar.
Excess sugar is off the menu, but that's an extra, not the primary aim.
Take a look at the issues caused by excess fructose.

Khalida.UNC wrote:

Sugar is not inherently bad. The natural sugars in fruit and milk are beneficial. It is the added sugars in manufactured food that cause endless harm to the body. In moderation, they would not be as dangerous, but they are not added in moderation.

The WHO recently revised their recommendation that an average sized adult consume no more than 25g of sugar per day. To put that into context, a 355ml can of Coke has 39g of added sugar, not including natural sugars. A single can is 156% of what you should intake that day.

6 teaspoons of sugar per day?

that's insane

I use that in my first cup of coffee

Philippine Destiny wrote:

Khalida.UNC wrote:

Sugar is not inherently bad. The natural sugars in fruit and milk are beneficial. It is the added sugars in manufactured food that cause endless harm to the body. In moderation, they would not be as dangerous, but they are not added in moderation.

The WHO recently revised their recommendation that an average sized adult consume no more than 25g of sugar per day. To put that into context, a 355ml can of Coke has 39g of added sugar, not including natural sugars. A single can is 156% of what you should intake that day.

6 teaspoons of sugar per day?

that's insane

I use that in my first cup of coffee

I'm on less now, sometimes zero cane or fruit sugar. Still not that much weight loss, but circumference decreasing and I feel better than I have in years. That and I'm saving a pile of cash because I'm not hungry all the time. 
My food yesterday was a bowl of cornflakes for breakfast, lunch of a curry with 2 scoops of rice at 3pm, then a small piece of cheddar at 7.30pm because I saw it in the fridge and really fancied it.
Drinks - Now water only.

When I started this thread, I was on at least twice that, probably three or four times, still drank the odd Sprite or Fanta, and felt like death warmed up. It started when a mate from England, a bald, ugly bloke called Rakesh, pointed me to a youtube video on the subject - Talk about accurate, as I have since found out.
The great beauty remains true, this has to be the easiest diet in the world because I don't feel hungry and I can still eat most of the stuff I enjoy. The stuff I stopped eating is no longer of interest as I find it now tastes too sweet to eat or drink, so none of that bothers me.

interesting...I dont use sugar anymore, I drink any hot or fresh drinks without sugar not because of diet but because the matter of health or preventing bad habits, it been 3 years since I did so
but the bad thing is I love desserts , some days I tried to limit it to once per day and some days, once per week
recently, I use to go to swimming 3 times per week and this helps me more to keep eating desserts once per week

Khalida.UNC wrote:

Dark chocolate has significantly less added sugar than milk chocolate.

- only those dark-chocolate's that contains 70% &up cocoa - are healthier than the others -

Breakfast at 6, now 12.30, but I'm not even slightly hungry. This time used to see me well ready for food, preferably lots of it, but I have no interest at all, and it's likely that won't change until 3 or 4 pm.
What a bonus.