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Difference between believes and doubts !!!

Last activity 03 January 2014 by aryavrat

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aryavrat

Dear All,

I want to know the opinion from you all regarding this topic because what i understand believe creates static society and doubt creates dynamic society.May be i am wrong....or something else too....

Regards,
Anil

mal

Do you believe in God Anil? Or don't you believe anything? So what type of person you are? Static or dynamic?

I trust each people has his own beliefs and doubts  Anil. If you believe something it is very difficult for others to change your mind. Even your inner mind insists you not to trust anything other than your belief.  But if you have doubts about something, you always love to get information from other sources to learn the truth. This is enthusiasm for acquiring the wisdom.. Every man has both qualities  more or less. So I think, it is difficult to categorize society as static or dynamic.

aryavrat

mal wrote:

Do you believe in God Anil? Or don't you believe anything? So what type of person you are? Static or dynamic?

I trust each people has his own beliefs and doubts  Anil. If you believe something it is very difficult for others to change your mind. Even your inner mind insists you not to trust anything other than your belief.  But if you have doubts about something, you always love to get information from other sources to learn the truth. This is enthusiasm for acquiring the wisdom.. Every man has both qualities  more or less. So I think, it is difficult to categorize society as static or dynamic.


Hello mal,
I don't know anything about that but its true that i am searching the truth...i cannot say there can't be any beliefs but i always doubt on beliefs and once doubt is clear that beliefs become either truth or not required any more ,so verry difficult for me say anything about this....but just i want to get the opinion from others what they feel and say....anyway thanks for your guidance.

regards,
anil

PEI Red

Dear Anil,

It all depends on context...if you believe something different than everyone else (for example: t (during the middle ages) the world isn't flat) this can drive change.  If you doubt that the world is flat but lack the belief that it's round, you may never get in your boat and prove it.

If you doubt that things can change, you may not make the effort to correct a wrong.  Equal rights came from belief not doubt.  So did cures for illness.  I've heard that doubt makes faith stronger.  If you question something, you must follow it up with making a decision about your initial doubt. It was either valid or invalid. 

It goes both ways!

stumpy

My glass is always half full. This is a positive thought.
My glass is always half empty. This is a negative thought.

I believe my glass is half full and doubt whether it is half empty.

aryavrat

PEI Red wrote:

Dear Anil,

It all depends on context...if you believe something different than everyone else (for example: t (during the middle ages) the world isn't flat) this can drive change.  If you doubt that the world is flat but lack the belief that it's round, you may never get in your boat and prove it.

If you doubt that things can change, you may not make the effort to correct a wrong.  Equal rights came from belief not doubt.  So did cures for illness.  I've heard that doubt makes faith stronger.  If you question something, you must follow it up with making a decision about your initial doubt. It was either valid or invalid. 

It goes both ways!


Hello PIE Red,

I have always a doubt which leads me to certain beliefs but it is not constant,it will be for leading another stronger doubts and thats the way i am getting changes within me....yes you are right doubt makes faith stronger....thanks for your contribution...wish you a merry christmas and happy new year...

Regards,
Anil

aryavrat

stumpy wrote:

My glass is always half full. This is a positive thought.
My glass is always half empty. This is a negative thought.

I believe my glass is half full and doubt whether it is half empty.


Yes brother you are right and i also take in the same way i doubt half empty and believe half full...
Wish you a merry christmas and happy new year

regards,
anil

stumpy

Anil
So you are in the negative class then. 
Not a good way to be when negotiating life's little ups and downs...
Compliments of the festive season to you.

Fred

I have doubts but I generally toss them into second place in favour of following my heart.
I've found you tend to be happier that way.

Nemodot

Belief is when someone says they want something to be true when it isn't. Like a God existing.

Doubt is where a sane person questions their beliefs.

For the record I am a Pastafarian. We believe in the flying spaghetti monster (his great noodleness), eat pasta on a Friday and in heaven we get a beer volcano and a stripper factory (72 strippers each so I was told).

Our great founder (he who should not be named) was a Physics grad student who campaigns that this should be taught in schools alongside Intelligent Design that some want taught in American Schools. Clearly FSMism is superior and super string theory (noodles) will one day prove we are all made up of noodley appendages of his great noodleness.

Any similarities with other religions is purely coincidental. We also respect all other religions if they eat pasta.

aryavrat

mas fred wrote:

I have doubts but I generally toss them into second place in favour of following my heart.
I've found you tend to be happier that way.


Doubts will be there then even heart will also speak you what comes from doubts .....whether we keep it in first place or second ......

aryavrat

Nemodot wrote:

Belief is when someone says they want something to be true when it isn't. Like a God existing.

Anil : I dont know what you are telling ....if we dont know then we cant say God exists or doesnot exists.....but when we believes then we closed the door to search

Doubt is where a sane person questions their beliefs.

Anil : Doubts leads to search the truth....also you can say converts belief into knowing....

For the record I am a Pastafarian. We believe in the flying spaghetti monster (his great noodleness), eat pasta on a Friday and in heaven we get a beer volcano and a stripper factory (72 strippers each so I was told).

Anil : I dont know anything about this.

Our great founder (he who should not be named) was a Physics grad student who campaigns that this should be taught in schools alongside Intelligent Design that some want taught in American Schools. Clearly FSMism is superior and super string theory (noodles) will one day prove we are all made up of noodley appendages of his great noodleness.

Anil : All the best for your great noodleness theory...

Any similarities with other religions is purely coincidental. We also respect all other religions if they eat pasta.


Anil : Eating pasta will decide for religions ......good one keep it up

aryavrat

stumpy wrote:

Anil
So you are in the negative class then. 
Not a good way to be when negotiating life's little ups and downs...
Compliments of the festive season to you.


Sorry for misprint i have already edited....anyway thanks and same to you again

John C.

Differences between beliefs and doubts ... are like the differences between the Moon and the Sun (they shine at different times) and between today and yesterday (the new YOU and same guy one used to be once).   :top:

aryavrat

I agree

DWSA

Believe is when you want something, and you can see it's happening.
Doubt is the opposite of that.

-D-

aryavrat

DWSA wrote:

Believe is when you want something, and you can see it's happening.
Doubt is the opposite of that.

-D-


Believe is what you have already accepted as truth without knowing and doubt is what you are not sure and thats make you to go for in search of that....

Nemodot

anil kumar tiwari wrote:
Nemodot wrote:

Belief is when someone says they want something to be true when it isn't. Like a God existing.

Anil : I dont know what you are telling ....if we dont know then we cant say God exists or doesnot exists.....but when we believes then we closed the door to search

Doubt is where a sane person questions their beliefs.

Anil : Doubts leads to search the truth....also you can say converts belief into knowing....

For the record I am a Pastafarian. We believe in the flying spaghetti monster (his great noodleness), eat pasta on a Friday and in heaven we get a beer volcano and a stripper factory (72 strippers each so I was told).

Anil : I dont know anything about this.

Our great founder (he who should not be named) was a Physics grad student who campaigns that this should be taught in schools alongside Intelligent Design that some want taught in American Schools. Clearly FSMism is superior and super string theory (noodles) will one day prove we are all made up of noodley appendages of his great noodleness.

Anil : All the best for your great noodleness theory...

Any similarities with other religions is purely coincidental. We also respect all other religions if they eat pasta.


Anil : Eating pasta will decide for religions ......good one keep it up


I forget we have a hell. You have to eat English food every day, live in a version of Milton Keynes and listen to Scottish folk music all day.

So pasta for me every Friday ;)

Just as sane as any religion, we have more proof than any other religion and it is the fastest growing religion (on facebook). And you get to enjoy pasta every Friday!

DWSA

anil kumar tiwari wrote:
DWSA wrote:

Believe is when you want something, and you can see it's happening.
Doubt is the opposite of that.

-D-


Believe is what you have already accepted as truth without knowing and doubt is what you are not sure and thats make you to go for in search of that....


Hmmmm when you put it like that,  don't you mean curiosity ? It is neither believe / doubt. How can you believe wihout even accepting it ? And when you search for something, it was because you are just curious, there is no doubt there. There is only one reason, and we called it curiosity.

aryavrat

DWSA wrote:
anil kumar tiwari wrote:
DWSA wrote:

Believe is when you want something, and you can see it's happening.
Doubt is the opposite of that.

-D-


Believe is what you have already accepted as truth without knowing and doubt is what you are not sure and thats make you to go for in search of that....


Hmmmm when you put it like that,  don't you mean curiosity ? It is neither believe / doubt. How can you believe wihout even accepting it ? And when you search for something, it was because you are just curious, there is no doubt there. There is only one reason, and we called it curiosity.


Here you doubt on your believes and that leads to search ...yes you can called curiosity also but not exactly.....If something is accepted without knowing it, is believe and something which you dont accept and try to find out your own truth that means you have doubt , might be it is true or might not be true...so you have doubt

DWSA

Anil,
If you keep believing that, no wonder that you can't escape from your doubts.

aryavrat

DWSA wrote:

Anil,
If you keep believing that, no wonder that you can't escape from your doubts.


For any search there must be a believe but on which you cannot doubt. because you dont know the fact of that believe......so what i am saying is one should not stop on believes and always open to know the facts and for this untill unless one should not doubts on the old believes how can it is possible...

DWSA

We all should look at it like the way you've seen it anil, it's about being positive:)

Keep on Believing it.

Happy New Year, God bless !!

-D-

aryavrat

Thanks and Happy New Year to you and your all family members

aryavrat

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