International Relations

https://en.tempo.co/read/2123212/son-of … -frankfurt

Son of Iran's Shah Receives 'Freedom Prize' in Frankfurt

The son, also known as the arsehole son of the mass murdering dictator that the US put in to replace Iran's democracy, has said Iran needs democracy.

Pahlavi said that Iran "is a country not waiting to be taught democracy, this is a country being prevented from practicing it."

This news is very clearly for stupid people to absorb.

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Germany Runs Out of Patriot Missiles It Can Supply to Ukraine

Germany has exhausted its stockpiles of Patriot missiles that it can transfer to Ukraine.

German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius stated this in an interview with the Berliner Morgenpost newspaper on November 7, Focus Online reported.

According to the minister, Germany has already supplied Ukraine with several Patriot air defense systems and a significant number of interceptor missiles.

I wonder how many other countries will follow.

The US will vote for more weapons sales now the democrats have control of the house and senate,  but Trump could Veto them.

However the US armed forces have money problems that suggest their situation is worse than they would like to admit.

https://www.stripes.com/branches/army/2 … 51833.html

A barracks bedroom at Fort Carson, Colo., is pictured in this undated photo. Soldiers in several Fort Carson barracks have dealt with broken air conditioning for weeks, with at least one telling a local television station that they resorted to sleeping in their car. (William Farrow/U.S. Army)

A small story that's limited to one base, but it smacks of attempts to save money. Is this an indication that the US is stretching its armed forces budget a little too far, and they know it?

If it is, Ukraine might follow Israel in potentially losing US military support.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 … from%20its

Donald Trump’s war on Iran has driven the US military into a severe financial crisis, with the US navy forced to transfer money from its payroll and other sources to cover the costs of combat, according to documents seen by the Guardian, and interviews with navy officials, contractors and defense analysts.

The bigger picture is far worse. With US armed forces struggling to meet its payroll commitments, does this signal a forced withdrawal from its many foreign wars?

Not so much 'death to America', but quite a lot of 'bankruptcy to America'.

Germany Runs Out of Patriot Missiles It Can Supply to UkraineGermany has exhausted its stockpiles of Patriot missiles that it can transfer to Ukraine.German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius stated this in an interview with the Berliner Morgenpost newspaper on November 7, Focus Online reported.According to the minister, Germany has already supplied Ukraine with several Patriot air defense systems and a significant number of interceptor missiles. - @Fred

i was Ukraine, I'd be attempting to reverse engineer patriot missiles.  I expect this is already going on right now.  Or at least creating a compatible or clone type system. 

They are already doing good things on high speed drones - enough to catch up with the Geran jet powered drones.   But it's early days.

People in times of war have to be very inventive.

Anything Congress attempts to do alone will be veto'd initially by Trump. They don't have an equivalent of the Parliament Act per se but if 2/3 of both chambers agree to legislation, President's veto will be overridden.   

They are already doing good things on high speed drones - enough to catch up with the Geran jet powered drones. But it's early days. - @fluffy2560

Yes, they are exporting them as 'surplus', but other countries are still suipplying free equipment.

In other words, the EU , UK, and others are giving Ukraine military gear so they can export their domestic production for cash.

Ukraine is selling its hardware to Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, and ...

... European countries.

Yes, in a move of epic stupidity, some EU countries are buying Ukrainian drones whilst their own taxpayers supply free weapons to Ukraine, and have given so much to Ukraine, they can no longer defend their countries.

https://kyivindependent.com/germany-in- … ed-drones/

Germany is negotiating a deal with Ukraine to purchase Bars jet-powered drones, a German official with knowledge of the matter told the Kyiv Independent on Oct. 24.

Berlin is discussing the deal with Kyiv as Germany plans to buy thousands of deep-strike weapons from European arms companies, as initially reported by Bloomberg on Oct. 23.

The idiocy is astounding. I wonder what EU and UK taxpayers would vote to do if they knew and were allowed a free vote on the matter.

Yes, they are exporting them as 'surplus', but other countries are still suipplying free equipment.
In other words, the EU , UK, and others are giving Ukraine military gear so they can export their domestic production for cash.
Ukraine is selling its hardware to Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the United ..- @Fred

All good.  We need to support their arms industry. It's like outsourcing and will benefit us in the end.

Slava Ukrainia!

They should definitely keep an eye on Iran. They're up to something.

Yes, they are exporting them as 'surplus', but other countries are still suipplying free equipment.In other words, the EU , UK, and others are giving Ukraine military gear so they can export their domestic production for cash.Ukraine is selling its hardware to Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the United ..- @FredAll good. We need to support their arms industry. It's like outsourcing and will benefit us in the end.Slava Ukrainia! - @fluffy2560

Please pass that on to EU and UK taxpayers who are suffering from high fuel prices.

The big problem with using a 'smart' comment as an argument, is that the person using it tends to look like an idiot devoid of valid points.

  Please pass that on to EU and UK taxpayers who are suffering from high fuel prices.The big problem with using a 'smart' comment as an argument, is that the person using it tends to look like an idiot devoid of valid points. - @Fred

Superficially it might look odd to you as a hard of thinking person who is quick to judge, rushes to heap abuse and with little experience of these matters.

Supporting  UA's arms export industry is just another form of budget support. And it helps them earn and also helps them fight Putin. So a double win. That's all good.

It's relatively common to support a country financially to prevent its collapse and to maintain regional stability.

Lots of countries receive budget support either unilaterally from a specific donor/country or multilaterally through donor organisations like the IMF, World Bank, EU etc.

I, and obviously many others, see this as a good thing as the alternatives are far worse.

Google "budget support" and improve your knowledge before passing judgement on this subject.

I, and obviously many others, see this as a good thing as the alternatives are far worse. - @fluffy2560

What is worse AND WHY?

(please show evidence)

All this anti Russia stuff is based around a lot of bluster, but few facts. Russia did invade Ukraine, but it isn't the full scale invasion we are told it is.

Ukraine has an unelected revolutionary government, but that's never mentioned. As you like to say, Zelenski is the president, but Idi Amin was also a president. Being president doesn't make you good or bad, just president.

Why do Russia haters never talk about NATO expantion? That move to the east has Russia worried as the US has a very long history of removing governments and attacking countries - would you want them on your border?

Why do we talk about Russia's invasion as if it's all Russia's fault? They have only entered areas with Russian speakers that voted for the pro-Russian government, and had their voting rights removed by the revolutionary regime.

Why do you NEVER mention how much money the US is making from the revolution? You never even consider that removing Russia from the oil supply chain gave the US almost 100% of the world's oil, and they doubled their refining costs when the competition was removed.

Why should the rest of the world obey US sanctions? Ajay Pant hasn't committed any crime at all, but his ship was attacked and he was arrested - all for braking laws that don't apply to him. This is a clear act of piracy as no law is cross border unless agreed by all countries concerned. Why should other countries follow US, EU, and UK sanctions when it isn't in their people's interests to do so?

That's just colonialism at its worst. Do you honestly support powerful countries forcing their laws and ideals on weaker nations? Ajay should be released immediately, his vessel restored to free navigation, and a large compensation agreed. Instead, the UK government intends to detain him and sell his cargo.

An Indian national delivering oil from Russia to his home country has nothing to do with laws the UK would like to force upon him.

I, and obviously many others, see this as a good thing as the alternatives are far worse. - @fluffy2560What is worse AND WHY?(please show evidence)All this anti Russia stuff is based around a lot of bluster, but few facts. Russia did invade Ukraine, but it isn't the full scale invasion we are told it is. Ukraine has an unelected revolutionary government, but that's never mentioned. As you like to say, Zelenski is the president, but Idi Amin was also a president. Being president doesn't make you good or bad, just president.Why do Russia haters never talk about NATO expantion? That move to the east has Russia worried as the US has a very long history of removing governments and attacking countries - would you want them on your border?Why do we talk about Russia's invasion as if it's all Russia's fault? They have only entered areas with Russian speakers that voted for the pro-Russian government, and had their voting rights removed by the revolutionary regime.Why do you NEVER mention how much money the US is making from the revolution? You never even consider that removing Russia from the oil supply chain gave the US almost 100% of the world's oil, and they doubled their refining costs when the competition was removed.Why should the rest of the world obey US sanctions? Ajay Pant hasn't committed any crime at all, but his ship was attacked and he was arrested - all for braking laws that don't apply to him. This is a clear act of piracy as no law is cross border unless agreed by all countries concerned. Why should other countries follow US, EU, and UK sanctions when it isn't in their people's interests to do so?That's just colonialism at its worst. Do you honestly support powerful countries forcing their laws and ideals on weaker nations? Ajay should be released immediately, his vessel restored to free navigation, and a large compensation agreed. Instead, the UK government intends to detain him and sell his cargo. An Indian national delivering oil from Russia to his home country has nothing to do with laws the UK would like to force upon him. - @Fred

You'll just have to work it out for yourself instead of asking me to waste my time giving you a lesson.  For someone who purports to read a lot of stuff, you sure are lacking in critical thinking skills.

Suffice to say just for one item about our neighbouring country, and to help you out, it's rather obvious if Ukraine is destabilised, there will be and there are knock on effects like refugees crossing the border, potential for civil unrest, civilian deaths, disruption of trade and spill over to the neighbours.  No-one wants that going on.   At the moment, it's being mostly contained.

The rest of it is just your usual inane whataboutery and hysterical histrionics. Adds nothing much to the quality of the discussion.

As you know by now I don't do homework.

@fluffy2560

Its OK, Fred is just using the forum to push his bullshit, he is bored, got nothing else better to do, he does what he does best, kills off Forums like Indonesia. Quite strange how it was active when Fred went AWOL, now he he's back they go into hiding.

Its OK, Fred is just using the forum to push his bullshit, he is bored, got nothing else better to do, he does what he does best, kills off Forums like Indonesia. Quite strange how it was active when Fred went AWOL, now he he's back they go into hiding.

Assuming he's of average size, it's remarkable how much BS can be stored in one person. It's a medical miracle.

I still don't know why he isn't banned and kicked off/blocked completely.  Tolerance for the troll it seems.

Suffice to say just for one item about our neighbouring country, and to help you out, it's rather obvious if Ukraine is destabilised, there will be and there are knock on effects like refugees crossing the border, potential for civil unrest, civilian deaths, disruption of trade and spill over to the neighbours. - @fluffy2560

I agree, just as we saw after the CIA funded revolution the removed Ukraine's democratically elected government.

Here's a couple of senior Yanks discussing who they were going to let run the country.

https://youtu.be/MSxaa-67yGM?si=HqUfd8olU_IyoSTJ

However,  you won't bother because it doesn't fit what you want to be fact.

As you know by now I don't do homework. - @fluffy2560

That's pretty obvious or you would be able to read the situation past the propaganda.

I still don't know why he isn't banned and kicked off/blocked completely. Tolerance for the troll it seems. - @fluffy2560

Ah, contraction is trolling,  even when backed up by undisputed facts.

How very 1984.

I still don't know why he isn't banned and kicked off/blocked completely. Tolerance for the troll it seems.  - @fluffy2560 Ah, contraction is trolling, even when backed up by undisputed facts.How very 1984. - @Fred

It's OK, we've got broad shoulders. 

I am sure you enjoy living under a bridge with your other trolls.   If you believe half of what you read or see on silly web sites no-one here reads or pays  attention to, I can sell you a new bridge to hide under.

Like I've said before - we do not look at your links unless probably it's proper journalists from established media sites.   No-one has time to waste on your muddled boring thinking.  It's just blah-blah and ignored.

I am sure you enjoy living under a bridge with your other trolls.  - @fluffy2560

I have to admit to a little amusement when I see you accuse me of insulting you, but it's actually you insulting me.

As for the "Troll" label, Stalin would have been in awe at you - All he could come up with was Vrag naroda.

"Troll" is the same sort intentianaly vague insult that covers anyone who disagrees with you, but requires no reasoning or, heaven forbid, actual facts.

You claim Russia is, without the slightest evidence, a danger to Europe, but I would argue that Europe is a danger to Russia. NATO has expanded to the Russian borders, and wanted Ukraine as a member. If you look at a map, that leaves moscow open to a classic pincer movement.

NATO expanded to Russia borders, not Russia to NATO countries.