How to remove my name from the Vietnam blacklist? :(
LaChill wrote:@vagabon. Did you read the post at all? I am in the process of getting a new passport. Thus new passport number. So will it pass?
Only one way to find out, give it a try.
It change a thing. Every country youhave been denied is linked to your passports(s). Perhaps you do not understand how the system works LaChill. Check back in after you get the new passport. Then admonish me on my reading of your comments.
Vagabondone wrote:The new passport idea is a novel idea. But do you really think that it would b that easy for criminals to just play the passport system. All are linked worldwide through INTERPOL and go back as far as your first passport. And the passport just proves which countries your a citizen of. The visa was blocked by the country you tried to visit. Ready assured you were not listed just under your bame which is not unique. But your passport number is.
Let's not forget that this is a scam being run by immigration, its not an official blacklist.
I went to a land border in Moc Bai, which has a computer system, they couldn't find any information on it for my previous passport. I had a new passport which didn't have my entry stamp on it...so there is some hope.
I bought a one year visa in Seoul, the Việt immigration officer told me explicitly that the visa was good for one year and that I didn't have to leave the country during that time. It wasn't until I went to my embassy in Hanoi to renew my passport that it was pointing out to me that I had over stayed several months because even though the visa was good for one year I was still required to exit every 90 days. Of course this is my fault too as I should have further researched the visa rather than blinding believing the immigration official.
I went to the immigration dept. in Hanoi and explained my situation. The captain I spoke with told me " don't worry, there are lots of people who have misunderstood this visa." I was instructed to write an official statement explaining myself and to provide documentation from my embassy that I was indeed waiting on my new passport. I did all of these things and paid a 4 mill fine. Then immigration told me that everything was taken care of and I wouldn't have any issues coming back.
I left my apartment and all of my belongings in Hanoi while I went to do a visa run, and sure enough, it was denied. I have been to many viet embassies and I still can't get any information. They won't tell me how long I'm banned for. The original visa agent that helped me with the paperwork in Hanoi informed me that it's probably 6 months. I have waited out the 6 months in Cambodia and am still being denied.
I'm still paying 10 mill a month in rent for my place in Hanoi. All of the "agents" I talk to are asking for thousands of dollars that they will in turn pay to their " connects" .
Now sir, you tell me who is the criminal here?
At the end of the day, I would rather put out the money than go through the hassle of obtaining new documents. But how am I supposed to trust these "agents", am I supposed to western union them a few grand and hope that they don't scam me?
Why don't you provide some info about your attorney and how you paid him? I'm open to suggestions but if your not going to say anything constructive than I'd rather not hear it.
Thanks in advance sir.
Perhaps you have problems reading it seems. I very clearly said that I was not suggesting you were a criminal. You said you were thinking of applying for a name change, then getting a new passport undef your new name. When you make the application for the new passport they will ask you if you gave ever used another name. Of course, you could say you never have. That would be a crime and you could be tried and convicted. At that time you would be cobsidered a criminal. Let me lnow what part of that you do not understand.
As for giving you the contact information for my lawyer that got me off the blacklist I told you before to PM me and I would gladly give it to you. I got a notification thst you had PM’d me. Bit it was blank with no message. Enjoy your stay in Cambodia in the meantime.
1 - Read the terms of your visa and fully understand them.
2 - Be very careful who you deal with for visa applications
3 - Get paperwork (stating what payments are for) for everything you pay to government officials or anyone else.
4 - Check if 'Mr Fixit' companies can do as they claim.
Perhaps posters in Vietnam could comment on my musings and point out any downfalls or errors.
Fred wrote:It strikes me there are lessons here:
1 - Read the terms of your visa and fully understand them.
2 - Be very careful who you deal with for visa applications
3 - Get paperwork (stating what payments are for) for everything you pay to government officials or anyone else.
4 - Check if 'Mr Fixit' companies can do as they claim.
Perhaps posters in Vietnam could comment on my musings and point out any downfalls or errors.
Getting something in writing would be the problem here. When I applied to get married we asked the official for a written list of what had to be done. They wouldn't supply it. Something that could have been done in two weeks took us 4 months to complete.
The other problem is, if they did give you it in writing and you still had problems, they wouldn't accept any blame. Buck passing is rife, taking responsibility for your actions is not something Vietnamese are good at.
Vagabondone wrote:I have seen this advice may times. “ get it in writing”.
I asked for comments, got them, and got shot down royal fashion on that point 
Kentlim933 wrote:I have overstay in Vietnam.i have pay penalty to immigration Department.they send me back my country.now I apply visa they rejected me not any reason.i have ask the agent to check they say my name not any blacklisted.i ask the agent to apply visa to me.now already 1week they say in processing.how I want to do now.pls any one can help.i really want go back to Vietnam settle my problem urgent thank
Money is what they are looking for.
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benjaminremy09 wrote:Hello,
I have a question. I got the same problem.
I came back in France last february for holiday, and when I try to get my visa on arrival before my departure it was declined by the embassy.
After information, an agent told me I'm on blacklist for overstay until 2022 (I was overstay last year, but I went out from VN after paid penalty to get out and the embassy in PP in Cambodia gave me back a new visa until february).
Last month, one agent told me he could remove my name from blacklist for 2300$. The time for me to get a new passport because it will be expired next september, I Asked him again this week if it's still possible. He answered me now it's too late to clear off my name from Blacklist because the list goes to Hanoi, no matter how much I will pay.
But an other agent (who he's really professionnal, not scamer) who have 2 offices (HCM and Saigon) told me he can process it for 3500$ in 3 weeks.
My question is : is it possible to remove your name from blacklist if the list with your name is already in the immigration in Hanoi ?
Thanks for your help.
Cheers
I just got a new passport, also Europe ....Numbers and all remained the same. You maybe better check on that
Another agent, without a word and most of you get same for the normal rates
1) how could a divorce possibly affect your legal worthiness to be in the country? Unless you divorced the PM's daughter, how could a VN woman get you blacklisted for getting divorced? I sincerely would like to hear about this, even by PM, given how, uhhhh, a friend has an extremely embittered soon to be ex- who is at the same time fiendishly clever with that crap and would do well financially if this friend were unable to stay and enjoy the fruits of former labor converted to m2.
2) I badly overstayed before getting my last TRC and they could not have been more casual about it. I phoned and was told exactly what happened: if under something like 10-14 days, they let it slide, otherwise it was - I forget - $3/day or something. No problem, no interrogation, nothing, no problem coming back in after. So I find it hard to believe it would put someone on some blacklist and cost $4k.
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Thank you,
Diksha
Team Expat.com
l3ully wrote:I personally doubt, that most of you "blackliste" are really on a black list. The amounts sound all very fishy.
Another agent, without a word and most of you get same for the normal rates
I'm thinking similar thoughts.
Some say it's immigration. Others think it's a scam cooked up by the agents.
I'm betting on the agents.
Maybe I'll find out in August...
There was a fella on here not ling ago that said he was blacklisted and had never set foot in the country. But your up a creek w/o a paddle if all your personal belongings, pets, family etc. is here and you took a short trip out of the country then learned you were BL.
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