Mindanao independence resolution to be submitted to UN

I wonder how representative the "Mindanao People’s Conference" was. It's hard to imagine that the non-Muslim majority supported this.

It would not surprise me P One if Mr T came in with an offer.

After all the US purchased the Philippines from Spain in 1898 for the sum of $20 million. A bargain.

It seems Trump is claiming the Western hemisphere for the US which would include Greenland, Venezuela, the Panana canal and the soon to be 51st state of Canada. He seems to actually be ignoring Taiwan and the Philippines except to keep the shipping lanes open in the SCS...maybe. That is his version of the Monroe doctrine. After moving Taiwan Semiconductor to the US he may very well leave Taiwan to the PRC and the SCS 9 dashed line to China. It's a totally new world with Trump in power.

The old men want to extend their playground. Putin in Ukraine, Trump in Canada and Greenland and Xi in Taiwan.

It is time to stop them.

It's a realignment based on geography. Trump is building a golden dome missile defense; Greenland is essential for that. Canada is now playing games with China. Canada will learn. Of course Taiwan actually is a part of China. Ukraine is actually a part of Russia historically. It all seems to make sense except it's hard to see where EU fits in if NATO collapses.

        Just saw a new MAGA hat in Greenland.  Make America Go Away.

    Just saw a new MAGA hat in Greenland. Make erdAmerica Go Away. - @mugtech

I think I saw that too; one of the 2 dog sled drivers who defend the Western Hemisphere from the Russian missiles based in Murmansk. Or, one of the 15 Germans or 2 Danes who are defending Greenland from NATO ally America

@mugtech

nice one

danfinn said . . . . I think I saw that too; one of the 2 dog sled drivers who defend the Western Hemisphere from the Russian missiles based in Murmansk. Or, one of the 15 Germans or 2 Danes who are defending Greenland from NATO ally America.

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Are you sure there is that many?

@mugtech nice one - @kissway53

Another nice thing to know about the Danish colonizers.

"Greenlanders were sterilized by the Danes. Greenlanders simply lose hope. The island has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, according to researchers, with an estimated 81 per 100,000 people annually killing themselves.

“They took our resources. They took our bodies. And then they told us to thank them,” she said of Danes. “How do you thank someone who stole your future?”

"Yes, it’s true that thousands of Greenlandic Inuit women and girls were subjected to a forced contraception program by Danish authorities from the 1960s onward, often without consent. Greenland also has one of the world’s highest suicide rates, with recent figures around 75–81 per 100,000 annually. These two realities—bodily autonomy violations and social despair—are deeply intertwined in Greenland’s colonial history. 

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🧵 Forced Contraception Program (“Spiral Case”)

- Period: Began in the 1960s and continued into the 1990s, even after Greenland assumed responsibility for its own healthcare in 1991. 

- Method: Thousands of Inuit women and girls, some as young as 12 years old, were fitted with intrauterine devices (IUDs) or given hormonal injections without informed consent. 

- Scale: An independent investigation found over 350 documented cases, but estimates suggest thousands of victims. 

- Purpose (official rationale): To reduce birth rates, lower healthcare costs, and prevent “unplanned pregnancies.” In reality, it functioned as a population control measure imposed by Denmark. 

- Apology: In September 2025, Denmark and Greenland issued a formal apology in Nuuk, acknowledging the harm and trauma caused. 

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💔 Suicide Crisis in Greenland

- Highest global rates: Greenland consistently ranks at the top worldwide. 

- Peak: Between 1985–1989, suicide rates reached ~120 per 100,000 annually. 

- Recent figures: From 2015–2018, the rate was still ~81 per 100,000 annually, nearly 24 times higher than the U.S. rate. 

- Current estimate (2023): Around 75.6 per 100,000, with men disproportionately affected (108 per 100k vs. 39 per 100k for women). 

- Contributing factors: 

  - Colonial trauma and loss of cultural identity. 

  - Geographic isolation and limited mental health services. 

  - Rapid modernization disrupting traditional Inuit lifeways. 

  - Intergenerational effects of policies like the forced contraception program. 

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📊 Comparison Table

| Issue | Key Facts | Impact |

|-------|-----------|--------|

| Forced Contraception (Spiral Case) | 1960s–1990s, thousands of Inuit women/girls fitted with IUDs without consent | Bodily autonomy violated, lasting trauma, distrust of institutions |

| Suicide Rates | Peaked at 120/100k (1980s), ~81/100k in recent years | Highest in world, reflects despair, colonial legacy, social isolation |

| Official Response | Denmark & Greenland issued apology in Sept 2025 | Symbolic recognition, but victims demand reparations and justice |

⚠️ Risks & Ongoing Challenges

- Psychological scars: Many victims report chronic pain, infections, and emotional trauma from the forced contraception program. 

- Distrust in institutions: These abuses deepened mistrust toward Danish authorities and healthcare systems. 

- Suicide prevention: Despite awareness campaigns, Greenland still struggles with limited resources and cultural barriers to mental health support. 

In short: Greenland’s tragic combination of colonial reproductive control and enduring suicide crisis reflects systemic harm inflicted on Indigenous communities. The apology in 2025 was a step forward, but the scars remain, and many Greenlanders continue to ask how one can “thank someone who stole your future.” 

danfinn said . . . . I think I saw that too; one of the 2 dog sled drivers who defend the Western Hemisphere from the Russian missiles based in Murmansk. Or, one of the 15 Germans or 2 Danes who are defending Greenland from NATO ally America.
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Are you sure there is that many? - @Enzyte Bob

I keep hearing that Denmark sent up to 2 dog sled teams in Northern Greenland. They should be asking for USA allied NATO support to protect against a Trump US invasion of Greenland. The whole purpose of NATO has become absurd. A titan waste of taxpayer money.

danfinn said . . . .I think I saw that too; one of the 2 dog sled drivers who defend the Western Hemisphere from the Russian missiles based in Murmansk. Or, one of the 15 Germans or 2 Danes who are defending Greenland from NATO ally America

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Update:

France: 15

Germany 13

Sweden 3 (Coach 53)

Norway 2

Finland 1

Netherlands 1

danfinn said . . . .I think I saw that too; one of the 2 dog sled drivers who defend the Western Hemisphere from the Russian missiles based in Murmansk. Or, one of the 15 Germans or 2 Danes who are defending Greenland from NATO ally America
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Update:
France: 15
Germany 13
Sweden 3 (Coach 53)
Norway 2
Finland 1
Netherlands 1 - @Enzyte Bob

     Trump said no military takeover, must be afraid of Coach 53.

Yeah mugtech, not been on here or another expat site I'm on for well over a year, maybe his knees got him in the end?

The roller coaster ride controlled by a spoilt little sh1t has been derailed and many are starting to wake up finally and about time.

Back on topic, while Mindanao already has an extensive autonomous region perhaps they want more expecting an influx of refugees?

As we all know the squeakiest wheel gets the most oil.

OMO.

Cheers, Steve.

@bigpearl

Yeah mugtech, not (Coach 53) been on here or another expat site I'm on for well over a year, maybe his knees got him in the end?

Or perhaps his Trump like ego got there first Steve ?

Not sure Lotus but you must admit there was plenty of interesting confrontations and opinions thrown about when he/she or it ventured onto this forum no different to an alternative persona on another site.

Seems he has moved on?

Cheers, Steve.

@bigpearl

Back on topic, while Mindanao already has an extensive autonomous region perhaps they want more expecting an influx of refugees?

As we all know the squeakiest wheel gets the most oil.

My only problem with this is that it asymmetricaly favors one certain religion. So if 5 or 20% of Mindanao are  Muslim, what percentage are Catholic or born again Christians. Why should that minority group overbalance everyone else? However, it is not my country and I suppose the threat of war and violence plays into it.

Yes Dan it is not our country and like most places the people (citizens) will voice the direction and decisions that lead a country forward.

Though as sad the squeakiest wheel gets the most oil and one simply needs to look through history no matter (most) countries. Whether it comes to black rights or women's rights and voting. The  LGBT community and the trash they like many endured or centuries seems the oiled wheel keeps turning.

As for Mindanao? One can only wait and see as visitors here.

While I type I am watching the memorial of the Bondi massacre 4/5 weeks ago being held in the Sydney opera house, the senseless murder of 15 souls and dozens wounded in the land down under and the land that welcomes everyone and one of the most culturally diverse nations on earth,,,,,,,, 2 radical Islamists on a crusade, I'm sure many here can relate to their own countries and the crap going on all the time. In Australia it's rare and shocking and so sad this type of sh1t can make it to our borders.

Sorry for my waffle.

Cheers, Steve.

@mugtech

Fun facts: A Russian ICBM sent from Murmansk to NYC takes 35 minutes to hit. In 11 minutes it is over Greenland. Perhaps our EU friends do not care about our golden dome. Got it. But Americans should pay attention.

         So Trump flew to Switzerland to have a TACO lunch.

    So Trump flew to Switzerland to have a TACO lunch. - @mugtech

One might prefer tortilla shells and guacamole in Davos to a Greenland invasion that would never have happened anyway lol

TACO = Trump Always Chickens Out.

TACO = Trump Always Chickens Out. - @mugtech

Of course. We all know that juvenile saying. But what does using a childish abbreviation say about people who incessantly use it on social media? 🤔 Low IQ cones to mind. Sorry Mug, just OMO.

TACO = Trump Always Chickens Out. - @mugtech
Of course. We all know that juvenile saying. But what does using a childish abbreviation say about people who incessantly use it on social media? 🤔 Low IQ cones to mind. Sorry Mug, just OMO. - @danfinn

Kinda like MAGA

Greenland's name is very "WOKE".

Trump is going to make this "The Greenless Big Beautiful Name Change Deal.

Trumpland sounds good Bob, seems he likes slapping his name on everything,,,,,, to be taken down by a different administration?

Cheers, Steve.

Trumpland sounds good Bob, seems he likes slapping his name on everything,,,,,, to be taken down by a different administration?
Cheers, Steve. - @bigpearl

NoTrumpland. It looks like Greenland will allow small pockets of US sovereignty on certain bases in Greenland. So any attack on other areas of Greenland will be defended only by the 2 Danish dogsleds and the 50 EU troops and the people do not receive the 100K to 1M dollars and the US pays nothing. Everyone is happy. Who are the losers?

Honestly Dan? Perhaps this should be a new thread given it's off topic but I'll play the game.

It seems to me the losers are the Americans with what has happened in the face of the free world, trust has gone because of a big headed ego and has totally disregarded 80 years of world unity trying to build a fiefdom and it's coming back to bite not only from the free world but the American souls that appears to have had a gut full and are quickly turning away.

As for Greenland the US have 15 or 17 bases there since 1951 and have walked away from all but one, those are existing rights and the US has always been welcome back.

Dump is empire building and can't focus in his own backyard, the fools that put him in power are suffering.

"Let them eat cake?"

OMO.

Cheers, Steve.

@bigpearl

It seems Trump has more military personal station in Australia than Greenland.  MAGA . . . . Making Australia Great Again.

Again?

And who's fault is it abandoning a foothold is Trumpland? Multiple US governments over the decades and they were always welcome back and not being threatened, all it's gained this administration is a lower standing at an international recognition sadly,,,,,,, all over an egotistical git.

Aussies care little how many US troops and bases are in the wastelands but I'm sure that if the dump tries this sh1t on any other aligned countries he will be met with even firmer resistance.

You probably believe that the US is now in control of Venezuela? Don't chid yourself.

As said the dumps focus should be getting things in order in the US for the souls that voted for him and not imagined conquests.

MAGA, TACO, egotistical fools? Australia is already great and needs no interference from a want to be authoritarian, remember Bob I mentioned the rabbit burrow? The bottom is about to hit and it won't be a soft landing. Oz like the US truly believe in democracy and not authoritarianism and definitely not dictatorships, the people speak as they are now in the states. They have had enough.

But hey OMO.

Cheers, Steve.

Honestly Dan? Perhaps this should be a new thread given it's off topic but I'll play the game.It seems to me the losers are the Americans with what has happened in the face of the free world, trust has gone because of a big headed ego and has totally disregarded 80 years of world unity trying to build a fiefdom and it's coming back to bite not only from the free world but the American souls that appears to have had a gut full and are quickly turning away.As for Greenland the US have 15 or 17 bases there since 1951 and have walked away from all but one, those are existing rights and the US has always been welcome back.Dump is empire building and can't focus in his own backyard, the fools that put him in power are suffering."Let them eat cake?"OMO.Cheers, Steve

I guess, Steve, you have chosen me to signal your displeasure with my Country. Certainly not Mug, who inappropriately disses his  government in front of people from other countries. I don't know what to call that. However,  I am convinced that you guys both lack fundamental understanding of required Arctic strategies in the advent of Russian and Chinese missiles that travel hypersonic at 15 times the speed of sound. Furthermore Steve, Australia does not fit in the the 3 power realignment because you are in the wrong hemisphere. Si your opinion doesn't count. China will be your natural ally. You (and EU) have no alliance benefit to the Western Hemisphere. I predict that Trump will lead a US exit from NATO after an agreement is made with Greenland. With the US out, EU is on its own after feeding from the USA for 75 years.

I make my own decisions Dan.

I have nothing against the US nor it's citizens but I do see what is going on with the current administration and the mind does boggle.

I have no problems with your countrymen as I've worked for US film production companies since the early 90's until my retirement 7 years ago. Yanks are no different to Aussies and we hold the same values and commitments. Sometimes big heads get in the way from time to time no matter country.

As always OMO.

Cheers, Steve.

@bigpearl

Aussies care little how many US troops and bases are in the wastelands but I'm sure that if the dump tries this sh1t on any other aligned countries he will be met with even firmer resistance.

Neither does Trump care about those expensive bases that no longer serve a purpose.  I would not be surprised if an agreement exists for the US to cede influence to China in this part of the world and China stays out of the western hemisphere and even cedes Taiwan, a natural part of China, for access to the SCS shipping lanes. We will see what the realignment brings.

       Not inappropriate to diss own country in front of foreigners, especially when it is the truth.  Aka The First amendment.

Honestly Dan? Perhaps this should be a new thread given it's off topic but I'll play the game.
It seems to me the losers are the Americans with what has happened in the face of the free world, trust has gone because of a big headed ego and has totally disregarded 80 years of world unity trying to build a fiefdom and it's coming back to bite not only from the free world but the American souls that appears to have had a gut full and are quickly turning away.
As for Greenland the US have 15 or 17 bases there since 1951 and have walked away from all but one, those are existing rights and the US has always been welcome back.
Dump is empire building and can't focus in his own backyard, the fools that put him in power are suffering.
"Let them eat cake?"

OMO.

Cheers, Steve. - @bigpearl

America actully had 50 bases on Greenland at the hight of the cold war. At the end of the cold war they have slowly closed a lot of them as it was costly to maintain them, The United States Army has over 40 military installations in Germany, two of which are scheduled to close. Over 220 others have already been closed, mostly following the end of the Cold War in the 1990s.

@bigpearl
Aussies care little how many US troops and bases are in the wastelands but I'm sure that if the dump tries this sh1t on any other aligned countries he will be met with even firmer resistance.
Neither does Trump care about those expensive bases that no longer serve a purpose. I would not be surprised if an agreement exists for the US to cede influence to China in this part of the world and China stays out of the western hemisphere and even cedes Taiwan, a natural part of China, for access to the SCS shipping lanes. We will see what the realignment brings. - @danfinn

I would disagree Dan as we all well know that the dump only cares about his bank account and seems no different to walking over contractors and declaring bankruptcy, what 6 times? Seems now he wants to lead the world from a failed developers ideals and like always cares little for his own workers and now the people that voted him into power.

Sorry MAGA believers but this one is going to bite him big time and probably his family when it's all said and done.

As for your supposed cheap foreign bases? Not only the dump but many prior admins have walked away over the decades because there was perceived world peace or a decent level of global integration and stabilitity but who has upended the cart? Simply ask yourself WHY? Small man syndrome rings a bell.

All the US bases are leased around the globe and the choice to abandon them was made for a reason by multiple administrations and now? Mostly those bases are accessible and one doesn't need to try and take over an aligned country with "WE NEED TO OWN IT" and the proverbial tariff threats with those that disagree, said it before the world is trying to deal with an egotistical spoilt kid and the slapping is coming. Seems from within his own house. Most have had a gut full and are moving on. The mid terms will be the telling of tales.

Kind of reminds me of the old Monty Python skit with Harold the clever sheep.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou … 0xP0T-6GIu

But hey seems a new world with even more challenges.

OMO.

Cheers, Steve.

@PalawOne

I certainly hope this is not the case, but having a GF there and having traveled several times to Davoa/Tagum/Mati regions in the last couple of years, I get the feeling the mindset of many people there can be different than the rest of the PI.  For example, the Dutertes are elevated in some aspects to that of folk hero status much to others' shagrins.  I kind of look at Mindanao vs. Luzon (and a lesser degree, Mindanao vs. Visayas) as similar to Florida vs. New York or Texas vs. California in the USA (or even the eastern region of Washington state vs. western/Seattle region).  Many people in Mindanao not only think they should form their own independent country but are more than capable of doing so.  Again, I hope this doesn't happen for the future sake of the entire country.

@mati_steve

Many people in Mindanao not only think they should form their own independent country but are more than capable of doing so

Mindanao is a net beneficiary of fiscal transfers from Manila.

It’s best known export the hubristic Mr Duterte is now in a detention centre at the International Criminal Court in The Hague and will probably spend the rest of his life incarcerated. At least he will be given a fair trial which many of his henchmen did not offer the thousands of innocent by-standers that got a bullet in the head.

The islands 3rd best known export (after Durian fruit) is Sara Duterte who like her father suffers in the cerebral area. She will probably be the next President of the country in 2028. Yeah right . Plus ca change. Like Estrada and Rodrigo Duterte Filipinos never learn their lesson.

Sarah Duterte is not stupid ( like her father hails from Davao) and would rather be a smaller fish albeit in a bigger pond.

      What is the story of that mayor on Mindanao who just survived the fourth assassination attempt?  Good thing he had an armoured Toyota.