Eng.Saudi wrote:Akprince wrote:This is not the lesson of ISLAM what's going on, Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) said ''No different between, Arab or Ajam, White or Black, Rich or Poor, every one is same'' , you will not find this different in US, Australia, Canadan, ..etc...
Who says it should be according to Islam? You? Why do you think you as Muslim should have special treatment in Saudi Arabia? and why do many Muslims look at Saudi Arabia as if it was some sort of caliphate to the degree of lecturing us if they were disappoinment afterwards for not finding their Islamic fanatasy here? Don't you know that there are many non-muslim immigrants too? Didn't you do your home work and read about the country and the laws of work here before arriving? Saudi Arabia is nation of state, we have our laws and you either agree on it before arriving or if you don't like it perhaps go to another Islamic country where they can offer this equality you're speaking about?
Canada, Australia, UK, NZ..etc. are not Islamic by the way, they're western and have 'western' values\ laws. Which Islamic countries have adapted to human rights like these western countries? None.
Saudis themselves are paid less than many Arab nationalities for the same job and sometimes Saudis have better qualifcations (my friend's sister is an example, studied French language, graduted from top-rated Canadian university, found a job, was paid less than her foriegn expat collegue who have high school diploma) and aren't offered health insurance and \ or transportation allowance. Being a muslim doesn't mean you should be having special privileges in Saudi Arabia or else.
This whole heirechial salaries thing is obviosuly unfair, harmful (to citizens as much to non-citizens) and it need not to be like this for many reasons which I can't explain here. I can understand that they need to pay people from developed countries more to attract them to come and work here, espically westerners as they're going to sacrifiec alot of their lifestyle and freedom for a while and to be honest they truly do have a good work ethics and come in small numbers, can teach us alot. In the contrary, I've seen many lousy workers coming from Arab countries with poor work ethics, cheat, lie, bully Saudis to quit their jobs and have atronmical salaries whilst many good workers with excellent work ethics from supossdly 'less developed' asian countries are paid less, I'd go so far as to say that the Filppino expats are of the best we have in Saudi Arabia.
Overall, as Saudi Arabian myself, I support equal payment, not based on religious affliations, rather based on actual qualifactions. But my ultimate wish is to see us working from garbage collectors, taxi drivers to CEOs just like it was once the norm prior to oil boom 1975.
Side note: I've studided Islam my whole life and that hadith you qouted doesn't speak about work\state laws. It is a totally diffrent matter\ meaning. Also, Canada, Australia, USA are all anglophone, new world countries. You pay taxes there and you're needed as immigrant to support the economy of industrialized country. Comparing us to them is incorrect in so many ways. Why don't you compare us to other Islamic \ Arabic countries? Can I as Saudi Arabian move to your country and be treated EXACTLY like the citizens or have higher salary than the locals just because I'm Muslim? I doubt it.
Well what I show up ''Hadees'' it's meaning of that Hadees, not exactly all what Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) said, other side I am not comparing Muslim or Non-Muslim, I am trying to open up equalization for everyone, without any race.
Well if you asking about my self I always say thanks to Allah what I have, I speak for those people are suffering here but can't able to raised their voice because your country laws will go against them not in favor at all. For your kind information there is companies and free lancer sponsors are playing with employees (not all but how many companies i know are same)
'' First contract sponsor will forward to agency, employee will read and agree on it,'' Got it
Once he arrived here, sponsor asking you to sign job offer base on company laws (it's not your country laws) and that job offer is totally different then what show you in home land the time you agreed on it.
It's happen front of me with all those employees we brought from Filipine, now they have no choice, because they spent lot's of money to come here.
lot's of cases happen here, my brother no harm feeling, but if you find what's happening here, go some poor towns, where people living hardly to survive their life maximum hand to mouth, after all they are suffering with kafeel.
My own very first cuzn, almost work with one kafeel for 3 years and done 2 projects and handover to client, kafeel have to pay him 35K his balance money, 1 year gone he keep hiding from him, answer is always i am not here or not there, when my cuzn ask finally i will go labor office to complain, then his kafeel did with his personal relation with some govt. people ''Called him ''Haroob'' I am sure you know what's that mean, once he reach labor office they said your kafeel said you are haroob, now you can't claim any money at all... ''I think topic will go more deep'' leave this
I am sure you are well educated and good man with kind heart, but remember no one perfect neither me, but what's going on here Allah knows better than me and you... I accepted and adjust with that and say always thanks to my Allah, and He full fill my need with His blessing. May Allah Bless everyone.