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maximusm03

Hello everyone,

I have a problem with getting the residential rate.

In January this year, I've changed to the new residential rate which is much cheaper. I am now moving to an another apartment and would like to receive the residential rate there as well. My new landlords have no issues with that. However, I've informed Arms about my intention to receive the residential rate again. They have informed me that this is not possible within 12 months after applying for this rate with another account even if I'll get my name and the name of my wife removed from the first account. This doesn't make any logical sense to me. What difference does it make for them which account they bill? I feel like they are making up rules that don't exist and treat people unfairly. I can't understand why I should pay more than anybody else, just because I am moving to another place.

Does anybody know if this rule really exist and if yes is there still a way to get the residential rate.


Dear Sir,

Thank you for contacting us

With reference to your email below, kindly note in order to be registered as number of persons in another account a year has to pass as per our company’s regulations.

Regards if you wish to be removed from an account, the same attached form has to be filled however ticking to remove and not to add.
Kind Regards,
Anthea Cassar
ARMS LTD
AGENT

georgeingozo

yes, I've seen this rule quoted elsewhere

tearnet

When you say you have informed ARMS of your wish to have residential rates, what do you mean?
Its your landlord that needs to fill in and sign the form all you have to do is give him  a copy of your EID, he should then submit it to ARMS.
I would be amazed if ARMS bothered to check  all applications against a list of people currently being supplied.
Just get the landlord to put in the form, what do you have to loose?

Terry

georgeingozo

v good point Terry - dont ask for the bill to be in your name, but ask to be recognised as tenants

maximusm03

Hi Terry,

I meant that I've contacted Arms in order to apply for the residential rate. This is how I've done it last time. My landlord filled out the form and I've forwarded everything to arms. In fact the whole communication was between me and Arms. My landlord wasn't involved in it at all. He only filled out the form and signed it.

I will take your advice and let my landlord deal with them. However, I believe they already memorized my name and once they see it on the application, they might not approve it. Because every time I've sent and email to their customer support, it was always the same person to reply to my emails.

I hope that will work. Just ridiculous with what reasons they come up just to avoid giving the cheaper rate.

georgeingozo

so last time you paid a deposit  (of € 466) ?

maximusm03

No, nothing. That rule has been removed as well. I even applied with my passport and not the Maltese ID and there was no problem at all.

georgeingozo

you still pay a deposit if the bill is in your name

maximusm03

I don't know, because the bill wasn't in my name. I don't actually want it to be in my name. The less paper work I have the better for me ;)

GuestPoster566

I'm confused  :/:)

maximusm03

Why?  :)

Toon

its got to be worth punt in getting your landlords to apply with the form for you.....

but to be fair it is the rules  - as nonsesnical as it is.!!!!!!

maximusm03

Yep. I'll give it a go. But I also requested from Arms that part of the terms and conditions stating that is not possible to use residential rate within 12 months, just because one is moving to another apartment. Looking forward to see that. :/

It's the same energy, same company, same user, just a different account. The only thing they need to do, is to remove my name from one account and add it to another. Simple :)

georgeingozo

did you use your ID number for the first application (in Jan) ? if so, use your passport for the 2nd :-)

maximusm03

I used my passport number for the first one. But as I said, there seems to be only one person to be responsible for email applications and she might notice my name anyway.

I can try it with my Maltese ID now, but they always want a copy of the front and back side. Obviously on the back side will show my old address and there you go... I can see the next problem coming my way ;)

tearnet

maximusm03 wrote:

I used my passport number for the first one. But as I said, there seems to be only one person to be responsible for email applications and she might notice my name anyway.

I can try it with my Maltese ID now, but they always want a copy of the front and back side. Obviously on the back side will show my old address and there you go... I can see the next problem coming my way ;)


Your not applying by email , your landlord needs to send or take the form in!
I thought that the 12month rule only applied if the bill was in your name, not if you are a named occupier but the bill is still in the landlords name?

Terry

maximusm03

I applied via email last time. It took literally 2 days to sort out everything and I didn't have to go anywhere, nor my landlord (which made things much easier). I found that procedure actually very good.

The lady from Arms said "kindly note in order to be registered as number of persons in another account a year has to pass as per our company’s regulations.". It sounds to me like it applies when our names are added to the account :(

tearnet

Found this on the ARMS site............

"It is important to note that according to current Electricity Supply Regulations, the same person can only move his registration from one premises to another once a year. Any further change will only be formally registered the following year. Also, if the change is completed after 1st of November in any one year, it will only take effect the following year."

So it depends on if they check?

Terry

maximusm03

Unbelievable. There is just no logic behind it.

georgeingozo

I guess the logic is to prevent someone with more than one house - say a normal residence and a weekend place -  from moving their registered premise every week/month, and dates back to when there was little difference between the domestic and residential tariffs - I think 12 years ago domestic was a bit higher but no meter charge. If so, the rule which made sense has been made illogical by the now massive premium on domestic rates

georgeingozo

tearnet wrote:

Found this on the ARMS site............

"It is important to note that according to current Electricity Supply Regulations


so it might be Government imposed, and not up to Enemalta or ARMS

georgeingozo

if so, email the relevant Minister

Toon

georgeingozo wrote:
tearnet wrote:

Found this on the ARMS site............

"It is important to note that according to current Electricity Supply Regulations


so it might be Government imposed, and not up to Enemalta or ARMS


even so its ridiculous.....

there should only be one rate - there is no logical reason for two unless its a stealth tax - and if it is then why not call it that - it needs to be done another way - a way that is obvious and transparent

maximusm03

100% agree toonarmy!

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