social security info

Robert Daniels wrote:

hola i,ve lived in mexico over 25 years born and raised in the u.s.  have tried to fill out form on the s.s. web site . it wont accept my address and phone info . does anybody know how i can get this done ?? 

gracias look for ya here
rbtodan

Do you have a U.S. address also ? If you do it might be safer to try your U.S. address.

Robert,

I have also lived in Mexico for the past 25 years, I had to fill out my papers at the consulate in Gaudalajara. I have my SS mail sent to me here in Mexico, but my check is deposited into an account in the states.

You must be physically in tbe usa to get into their system.

mjohn1006 wrote:

You must be physically in tbe usa to get into their system.

If that’s accurate then use a VPN to hide your true location.  I don’t think you need a US address as lots of people collecting SS live outside the US.  Not even sure you need a US bank but maybe. I have mine going to my credit union and SS did even ask for the address just the ABA number and account number.  I would call SS. They have always been totally response when I called.

Buen Dia - Thanx for all the input - My Brother tried with His address & phone in the u.s. ( would,nt let Him in ) I live in Playa Del Carmen & the Consulat is closed cause of the Ferry incident - so i guess it,s a trip to Cancun .
gracias to all  saludos

They recently went to two step authentication.   I have a code texted back to me that I have to use to log in.  I would try to call before making the trip.  When I first applied I spent an hour on the phone with the representative who gave me all the options.  They were very helpful and I actually decided to wait another year to start drawing.

jamesr3939 wrote:

They recently went to two step authentication.   I have a code texted back to me that I have to use to log in.  I would try to call before making the trip.  When I first applied I spent an hour on the phone with the representative who gave me all the options.  They were very helpful and I actually decided to wait another year to start drawing.

If you are not getting it at all yet, If it were me, I would be visiting that brother in the U.S. to get it fixed. They are working hard to eliminate SSI so I would not wait.

Any legislation on SS is a ways off...but even when activated won't affect anyone within 5 years of claiming
The us government/Trump administration is mired in so many lawsuits and investigation that it's a wonder anything can get done...which actually is the case

You do no need to be in US to access anything with SS
The US pays people all over the world with deductions being withheld from your US based paycheck.

You might Just call them instead.  Keep in mind, in order to qualify you must have had a 35year US based work history (even if based elsewhere)

Jasmine1955 wrote:

Keep in mind, in order to qualify you must have had a 35year US based work history (even if based elsewhere)

That's not totally accurate.  It's a much more complicated formula than just years you worked.  It's about how many "quarters" you have credited and a quarter isn't just months, but more about how much money you made.  You must have a min of 40 quarters to draw any SS.  It's all spelled out in your yearly SS statement. 

I worked for more than 30 years and didn't pay into SS as I had a state pension.  Once I retired I only had about 18 quarters credit from misc work where I did pay into SS, so I needed to get 22 more quarters to draw any SS.  I can't recall the exact $ amount SS says is a "quarter".  I think it's around $3000.  So if you worked just three months in a year but made $12,000, you have your four quarters for the entire year.

jamesr3939 wrote:

Jasmine1955 wrote:

Keep in mind, in order to qualify you must have had a 35year US based work history (even if based elsewhere)

That's not totally accurate.  It's a much more complicated formula than just years you worked.  It's about how many "quarters" you have credited and a quarter isn't just months, but more about how much money you made.  You must have a min of 40 quarters to draw any SS.  It's all spelled out in your yearly SS statement. 

I worked for more than 30 years and didn't pay into SS as I had a state pension.  Once I retired I only had about 18 quarters credit from misc work where I did pay into SS, so I needed to get 22 more quarters to draw any SS.  I can't recall the exact $ amount SS says is a "quarter".  I think it's around $3000.  So if you worked just three months in a year but made $12,000, you have your four quarters for the entire year.

Well you both may be a little off target. Trump and company got the obscene tax bill passed, so them  creating problems with SSI isn't a far leap after all.  They are also taxing many on their SSI income.

As for government pensions, that exempted people from signing up for SSI when my uncle was in the Navy, which was long ago. I have a state Gov. pension also, but I still paid into SSI, it made no difference for me at all.

How they figure quarters.."We use your total yearly earnings to figure your Social Security credits. The amount needed for a credit in 2018 is $1,320. You can earn a maximum of four credits for any year. The amount needed to earn one credit increases automatically each year when average wages increase.

You must earn a certain number of credits to qualify for Social Security benefits. The number of credits you need depends on your age when you apply and the type of benefit application. No one needs more than 40 credits for any Social Security benefit." SSA.Gov.

I have always paid taxes on my Social Security.  If you also have a government pension and draw SS there are offsets that can reduce or even eliminate your SS allowance and it wasn't Trump who put those in place.

jamesr3939 wrote:

I have always paid taxes on my Social Security.  If you also have a government pension and draw SS there are offsets that can reduce or even eliminate your SS allowance and it wasn't Trump who put those in place.

OK, so that's confusing  James given that you  wrote  " worked for more than 30 years and didn't pay into SS as I had a state pension"

As for who did what, It was Reagan , then trumps new tax was signed so this  year The cost of living increase just edged many over the magical allowance  under the new tax system..

Sorry yep I guess that's a little confusing.  My government work (34 yrs) I didn't have to pay into Social Security.  I had part time work before/during that where I did.  So when I retired I had 18 credits/quarters and needed 40 total to draw the SS minimum.  So I went to work  in private sector and got the remainder and more. 

However, due to my government pension I don't draw the full amount as most people would with the exact same total SS credits. 

You are partly correct it was Reagan who signed the Windfall Protection Act aka "Warren Buffet" rule (that's a recent aka).  But it was Jimmy Carter who signed the Government Pension Offset, which was much more detrimental to government employees.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want anything more than anybody else would get under the same circumstances.  But, that's not the case.   

I guess this topic has jumped the shark a little.

Just as a side note:. This pertains to so few people out of millions it didn't seem worth confusing people

Unless you're one of the few.

Personally, I am more concerned about MEDICARE than Social Security.  I have read there is talk to allow MEDICARE use in Mexico mostly due to the lower costs for treatment.  We can only hope.

Robert Daniels wrote:

hola i,ve lived in mexico over 25 years born and raised in the u.s.  have tried to fill out form on the s.s. web site . it wont accept my address and phone info . does anybody know how i can get this done ?? 

gracias look for ya here
rbtodan

I did it online,but I used a US phone # and address