U.S. Philippines Ambassador warns of deportation under Trump

@Aidan in HCMC ?That's exactly how I understood the human right question. Not sure why you needed to clarify?Cheers - @danfinn

Thank you, danfinn.

One member seemed to have taken it as an affront, hence my wanting to clarify for all.

Asylum:

Protection and immunity from extradition granted by the US to a political refugee from another country.

Approximately 149 countries signed the 1951 refugee convention, committing to protect refugees.

With all the rhetoric flaunted on this forum of the bad, bad United States and how especially it's even going to be worse on January 20th, 2025.

Why are millions beating down the fences to gain entry to the US?

Larry said: “ohh I get it, so they're going to ask illegal aliens if they are criminals or not then deport. No, wait. They're going to scour the internet for criminal illegal aliens, then go getem. Overstays are a last priority. hmmm... wasn't very damn long ago overstays were the MAJORITY of illegal aliens. Haven't seen the numbers last few years. But that time DID include during Trump's first stint in office.
"overstays and other immigrants are a last priority". WTF exactly does that mean?
Is an overstay not in fact an illegal alien?
How PRECISELY are "other immigrants" illegal? Or are you just saying (as expected) deport them all because they're not born here. Except of course if they're European and fair skinned.
Your statement REEKS of entitlement disease”

Stop with the word entitlement already you sound just like Kamala and we know what happened to her. I retired 21 years + in a law enforcement position. Believe it or not US Immigration can check a persons criminal hx both here and in other countries. I know you are not stupid so I will assume that was sarcasm on your part. The difference between overstays and other illegals is simple. A person on overstay status came here legally usually through a work or tourist visa and then violated the conditions of stay. They did not simply run across our border. Obviously those persons are less of a threat because they were previously vetted prior to being given a visa. Your other comments regarding race and birthright are insulting, vile and do not warrant a response. - @Morgacj200424

Mfer you said "OTHER IMMIGRANTS" Not "other illegals". There's a MASSIVE difference. And that's EXACTLY and ONLY what I referred too.

Now do you see how exactly what you type can be stupid?

I also stand by the term ANY illegal is criminal. Overstaying is a criminal act. Here in the Philippines it CAN get you blackballed for a year or more, or just pay a fine and slap on the wrist. So, maybe you meant to define "criminal" as all the drug dealers, rapists, murderers Mexico is letting out and sending to USA? (Per DJT)

At what point in time was it decided that living in the US was a "human right"?
As seasoned expats, I'm sure most of us are aware of the repercussions of being in contravention of our host country's immigration laws. - @Aidan in HCMCThat's OK because, whatever the previous corrupt bureaucrats and Biden decided in the past, that is down in flames after Nov 5 and now the PEOPLE have decided that the rest of the world has no "human right" to live in our homeland. So the PEOPLE elected Trump to restore sanity to fix pur immigration mess and he has appointed Tom Homan as border czar and Kristi Noem to Homeland security to restore lawful policy and enforce the immigration laws already on the books. Another awesome result of the 2024 election. I'm sure you agree, one of many. - @danfinn
I guess I should have qualified my question, "At what point in time was it decided that living in the US was a "human right"?"

What I meant was that the migrants themselves seem to have decided that it is their right to live in the US. It was not meant as an indictment against a political party which my question, admittedly, may have been interpreted to be. Apologies for that. Where/when/how the migrants got that apparent notion is beyond me.

Heck, until a couple of months ago I had no idea which US party sported red, the other blue. I had no idea which of the two main political parties was referred to as the "GOP", and I still don't know (or care, really) which is represented by the burro and which by the pachyderm😉.
- @Aidan in HCMC

Just read this, and it correctly points to what I was so pissed about reading. I was pissed because the way you originally wrote it, while may not have been meant that way, is being repeated like it's reality.

But, to your point. No party, red or blue, has ever stated it's a "human right" to live in the USA. The "rights" are anyone can apply through proper means and channels, and the US will accept some amount of them based on qualifying data. You do know (I forget the proper term and not looking it up) there's a actual "cap" in specific numbers of annual "seasonal only" workers in given regions/areas right? They come over as part of the quota of allowed workers. Even DJT's companies and Mar-a Lago hire them. Sometimes without actual proper paperwork! Because not all companies use E-verify for social security numbers of new hires etc...That's an expense DJT companies don't want when they can pay less and keep quiet.

BTW, did you know those seasonal workers also pay taxes via normal payroll deductions, including social security, but they are NOT allowed to make use of social services, like some would make you believe here.

@Aidan in HCMC ?That's exactly how I understood the human right question. Not sure why you needed to clarify?Cheers - @danfinn
Thank you, danfinn.
One member seemed to have taken it as an affront, hence my wanting to clarify for all. - @Aidan in HCMC

OK, well sometimes people misunderstand written communications but in no way did I intend an affront. I agree with you 100% Aidan.

@PalawOne

I had to cut most of that for brevity. But:

For Romualdez, Trump's "transactional" approach and tendency to take a negotiator's stance in foreign policy should highlight what the Philippines can offer to the US in exchange for its support.

With the negative attitude of this ambassador to our new chief of state's policies, I expect that he may choose (or be chosen) to vacate his post for the benefit of bilateral relations important to both sides. I suspect this person personally prefers to live in his homeland lol. I am surprised BBM let him get away with saying that about US mmigration policies as it has zero diplomatic value, only downside.

I think the Philippine Ambassador is being irresponsible by engaging in fear mongering. He seems to paint a picture that ICE will just knock on Filipino illegal immigrants' doors, arrest, and deport them once Trump gets inaugurated. As Tom Homan, Trump's pick for "border czar" said, they will prioritize deporting those who threaten national security: criminals, terrorists, rapists, murderers, violent gangs, human traffickers, drug traffickers, etc.

I think it will take at least 2 years before this gets done, if ever. So, a typical Filipino caregiver or nurse, whose work visa expired and is now overstaying in the US, will not be the first on the deportation list.

The ambassador advised that those who are overstaying should seek legal counsel. From what I had observed while I was living in the US, most of the Filipinos who were staying and working there illegally had expired work visas and tourist visas, and that they had been staying illegally in the US for many years. (I went on a date with a Filipino guy whose work visa was about to expire. I didn't know that piece of info, but I was able to surmise that because he kept pushing the idea that it was not important to know each other before getting married, and started talking about planning our wedding on our first and only date. LOL. Maybe I'll tell that story on a future post.) What the ambassador could have done instead was set up free legal counseling for overstaying Filipinos. I think the cases are not that unique. Maybe he can negotiate for a short-term special visa for overstaying Filipinos to continue working in the US, and which would also require them to pay income taxes.   

My two cents.

@FilAmericanMom

My experience back in the US is similar. We knew of a few overstayers and even a few who came in from Canada. It was easier to get into Canada legally than directly to the US. Nobody in USA immigration ever did anything about them. Today some of these people might be exposed to deportation but somehow they would have to be identified. In researching this, I found there are either about 300,000 or 1 million Philippine overstayers in the US depending upon the source. To me it appears 300,000 is more accurate. Just as every American in the Phils who overstays is fair game for deportation, and they should be; *the rules of the host country must be respected or you are denying their sovereignty* and Philippines BI are not shy to deport, or threaten to deport Americans, so will overstaying foreigners in the US be subject to be deported as a result of Trump. Mass deportation in the US is not new, Obama deported 12.5 million. I believe any overstayer or illegal entry alien of any nationality in the USA, including Canadian, has something to worry about under Trump.

But when I think about how difficult it was to get my wife's green card to stay in the US legally, and the impossibility of getting US visitor visas legally for her family members when we lived there, and my wife's tears when speaking to Senators Dole's office while appealing for their temporary visitor visas and being denied,  sorry but I just cannot feel empathy for those entitled people who did get their USA visas but disrespected the system and overstayed, illegally making a forever-life in the USA (which is why it was so difficult for others to get visas), and later getting caught...too bad. The Ambassador is doing his job; he knows there is no more bullshit under Tom Homan.

Dan Finn you are absolutely on point. My wife’s brother’s petition (her dad was the petitioner) took more than 20 years to be approved because he was married and had kids. He died shortly before the petition was approved. Sadly his wife and college educated children had to stay in the PI as their father was deceased . Yes it really pisses my wife and her family off to see all of these people walking illegally across the border. It’s about time the USA enters the 21st century and secures its borders.

danfinn said. . . .

I found there are either about 300,000 or 1 million Philippine overstayers in the US depending upon the source. To me it appears 300,000 is more accurate.

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President Reagan sign into law the amnesty act November 6, 1986. Amnesty was granted for those were in the country prior to January 1, 1984.

I met and married my Filipina wife in Las Vegas in 2007. She had many Filipino friends, some illegal. One of her friends was married to a Filipino who jumped ship and thanks to President Reagan he is a citizen.

For illegals that self deport, they are barred for five years (from memory). At one time Filipino's would pay thousands $$$ for a marriage to enter the states.

One of my wife's friends who is now an illegal, married a guy to get into the states, shortly afterwards she ditched him.

He then had her status revoked. 

Yes Morgacj200424.

No matter country immigration laws are there for a reason, Australia has been through all this for 40 odd years and 20 or 30 years ago the government got the goolies and said no, things changed big time over the following decade,,,,, has to be stopped at the border/s. They succeeded.

We went legal and applied for a partnership visa at great cost with an immigration specialist as well as border force fees, that took near 12 months and one under review the better half was granted a 12 month multi entry visa to Australia 11 months into the process. Had to leave the country every 3 months and return,,,,, we had lots of holidays around the world until the partnership visa was granted, that took another 6 months and then became a permanent resident, the ability to work, pay taxes but required 5 years living and working in Oz to gain citizenship. 6 years later we moved back to the Philippines. Retired. We did the right thing and followed the laws.

So I can understand what the legal migrants are thinking given the US problems now but one has to sincerely ask who created this problem over decades of ineptitude?

LOL. All that aside I have been living here in PH for near 6 years on a visitor visa, I pay my fees every 2 months and immi here have only questioned me once some months ago,,,,,, think they were looking for illegals working/vloggers and other nefarious operations that some carry out here.

Many expats tell me many things contrary to visitor/tourist visas? But while this government offers a very generous visitor visa I stick with it and spend my money here,,,,,, they know.

I hope the new administration in the US can control what's happening there this time.

OMO.

Cheers, Steve.   

@FilAmericanMom

that it was not important to know each other before getting married, and started talking about planning our wedding on our first and only date. LOL. Maybe I'll tell that story on a future post.

Please do FAM. Don't keep us all in suspense. Rest assured that everything you say on the Forum will be treated confidentially

I am just now getting my permanent 13A visa.  I got tired of jumping thru all the hoops and remembering deadlines.  Much simpler with a permanent visa.

Dan Finn you are absolutely on point. My wife’s brother’s petition (her dad was the petitioner) took more than 20 years to be approved because he was married and had kids. He died shortly before the petition was approved. Sadly his wife and college educated children had to stay in the PI as their father was deceased . Yes it really pisses my wife and her family off to see all of these people walking illegally across the border. It’s about time the USA enters the 21st century and secures its borders. - @Morgacj200424

My mom's petition (her dad was the petitioner) took over 10 years to get approved. The approval of her petition took longer than her unmarried siblings' approval because her petition included us, her family. I think the plan of the current administration to expedite the granting of visas and citizenship to millions of illegal aliens who entered the US in the past 4 years is unfair to us who waited for years for the approval of our petition and to those who are still awaiting their approval for years.  I'm glad that the incoming administration is bent on enforcing policies which will be fair to those who entered America legally.

@FilAmericanMom
that it was not important to know each other before getting married, and started talking about planning our wedding on our first and only date. LOL. Maybe I'll tell that story on a future post.

Please do FAM. Don't keep us all in suspense. Rest assured that everything you say on the Forum will be treated confidentially - @Lotus Eater

I almost did not go out on a blind date, set up by my sister, with the guy who is now my husband. It was because of a previous date, which was also set up by my sister, with a Filipino who I wasn't aware had an work visa that was expiring soon.

He picked me up from my uncle's house in his white sports car. He was going to take me out for lunch at Half Moon Bay. He told me he was an engineer working for an industrial firm in the US, earning $60k a year from that job, and another $30k on a side job. I felt a bit uncomfortable when he disclosed that because that's not something you talk about on a first date. (I was just making $42k per year at that time.)

On the way there, he kept pushing the idea that it is not important for two people get to know each other first before getting married because it is only after marriage that they truly get to know each other. And he also said that it is important that they listen to each other. I countered what he said by telling him that it is extremely important that people get to know each other very well first before getting married to determine whether they will get along if they ever get married. But I also agreed that people need to listen to each other. But he kept talking and talking about what he believed in, like he never heard what I said, for at least three more times before we got to Half Moon Bay. (So much for the importance of listening to each other.)

(I gotta prep for a party. To be continued.)

Dan Finn you are absolutely on point. My wife’s brother’s petition (her dad was the petitioner) took more than 20 years to be approved because he was married and had kids. He died shortly before the petition was approved. Sadly his wife and college educated children had to stay in the PI as their father was deceased . Yes it really pisses my wife and her family off to see all of these people walking illegally across the border. It’s about time the USA enters the 21st century and secures its borders.  - @Morgacj200424
My mom's petition (her dad was the petitioner) took over 10 years to get approved. The approval of her petition took longer than her unmarried siblings' approval because her petition included us, her family. I think the plan of the current administration to expedite the granting of visas and citizenship to millions of illegal aliens who entered the US in the past 4 years is unfair to us who waited for years for the approval of our petition and to those who are still awaiting their approval for years. I'm glad that the incoming administration is bent on enforcing policies which will be fair to those who entered America legally.
- @FilAmericanMom

You must have hated Ronnie Raygun

@mugtick

You must have hated Ronnie Raygun

Having likely been a teenager in Philippines at the time under Marcos I, I don't think she was too worried about President Reagan"s amnesty plan. Not everybody here is 100 years old.

@mugtick
You must have hated Ronnie Raygun
Having likely been a teenager in Philippines at the time under Marcos I, I don't think she was too worried about President Reagan"s amnesty plan. Not everybody here is 100 years old. - @danfinn

Was talking about her ideas about the plan, not how it influenced her life.  One could hate Kaiser Bill without having lived through WW1.

@mugtick
You must have hated Ronnie Raygun
Having likely been a teenager in Philippines at the time under Marcos I, I don't think she was too worried about President Reagan"s amnesty plan. Not everybody here is 100 years old. - @danfinn
Was talking about her ideas about the plan, not how it influenced her life. One could hate Kaiser Bill without having lived through WW1.
- @mugtech

To hate that chap means you must hate Franz Joseph I as well. After all, he started WWI. Billy knew what was going to Happen, but so did pretty much everyone else in Europe (At least the ones who could read).

My question is simple. Can you hate a person who kicked the bucket long before you were born, or do you simply hate their actions?

I hate neither. It's history, so it is to be studied in the hope of avoiding a repeat - nothing else.

On a more up to date note, I don't hate Trump or Biden - I pity the US and am a shade concerned about a war started to defend the Dollar's position, but I don't hate them.

I do think the pair are corrupt idiots who are a major danger to peace and stability.

My question is simple. Can you hate a person who kicked the bucket long before you were born, or do you simply hate their actions?
I hate neither. It's history, so it is to be studied in the hope of avoiding a repeat - nothing else.
- @Fred

Hitler, I can hate his actions and everything he stood for, every part of his life, everything he ever thought or said.  Total hate.  Timing of his death has little to do with the hate felt.

My question is simple. Can you hate a person who kicked the bucket long before you were born, or do you simply hate their actions?I hate neither. It's history, so it is to be studied in the hope of avoiding a repeat - nothing else. - @Fred Hitler, I can hate his actions and everything he stood for, every part of his life, everything he ever thought or said. Total hate. Timing of his death has little to do with the hate felt. - @mugtech

Do you hate his massive investment in Germany's infrastructure?

Hitler, much as he was clearly a total nutter with a somewhat evil agenda, did very nicely in some areas of German life.

I do not hate Hitler, just most of what he did.

Perhaps you must also hate everyone in Hitler's power base - His ministers and so on.

Do you hate everyone who voted for the NSDAP in 1933, even though you don't know who they were?

Do you hate the people who stood by when the Nazis smashed Jewish businesses, or can you understand it because trying to stop the Nazis would have led to arrest or death?

Do you hate Oswald Mosley - A failed Hitler who wanted to do the same in the UK? Perhaps you don't because he never managed to enact his loathsome plans.

I believe we should scrap hate in favour of looking at the lessons available from Hitler's rise to power. We can try to avoid the situation that allowed him to achieve his position so we never get another.

Sadly, in my most humble of opinions, I think the US failed to take heed of the lessons. Time will tell.

       And Mussolini made the trains run on time.

@muteck

I wonder if you hate the owners of the property that you purchased who allegedly took the toilet seats even though you can't remember if they were there or not or the management at Gilligan's Island that served up a dish that was good for 4 but you only got 3 pieces of chicken?

Hate is a very strong word, detest or dislike intensely may be more apt? As Fred stated we should all learn from history and not repeat/impose the same crap ever again,,,, human nature is difficult to get your head around.

OMO.

Cheers, Steve.

   And Mussolini made the trains run on time. - @mugtech

I understand he took credit for it, but I don't believe he actually did it.

Perhaps our lesson for today should be to watch out for extremists who lie in order to gain popularity.

Of course, if the lies suit your personal agenda you can just vote them into power.

One last note - How many extremists with nasty policies actually helped their countries? Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini didn't do much of a job in the long run.

Pol Pot and Mao pretty much arsed their countries up so perhaps they should be hated as well.

How about Xi Jinping? I don't believe he is guilty of any mass murders (I stand to being corrected), he has started zero wars, and his reign has seen political stability and a lot of wealth for his country. Should we hate him because he runs a one party system?

Now to Trump. Should we hate him because he lies for political gain, is a convicted criminal, and makes a lot of openly racist comments (as do the people around him)?

@Fred

Sadly, in my most humble of opinions, I think the US failed to take heed of the lessons. Time will tell.

In 2022 Boris Johnson made a trip to Kyiv to stop Zelensky from having peace talks with Putin. The result was to bring the world even closer to thermonuclear war, for which Fred, lotus etc. does not consider the recklessness of their nation's leaders.

They ignore the possible devastation of the planet, as if nuclear war were not possible or probable.

Clue: It is possible under an unstable putin and would have been almost imminent if Harris had won the election. Thank you liberals, and Fred, who are apathetic or hawkish towards war with Russia. Thanks for nothing.

Of course Biden has caused as many or more problems than UK but Biden is senile, Johnson and Starmer are not.

So while Fred is worried about more trivial matters,  hoping that the dollar crashes and the Americans finally get their just deserts, Trump is in the background negotiating with putin to spare the world of the worst of all possible catastrophes which liberals (and Fred) amazingly turn a blind eye to. It is astonishing how supposedly intelligent people can take their TDS so far as to bet against probably the only person who can end the Ukraine war and prevent WWIII.

And Trump is ending the conflict behind the scenes as promised,  functioning essentially as US head of state until swearing-in while Biden stumbles around (literally) in global hotspots like...Angola whose premier must help him down the steps...

And the impact of ending this war will go way above Fred's head as he instead researches how BRICS will replace the dollar and yearns for its success. As for liberals worried about climate change, global thermonuclear war would have a definite effect on both global warming and the nuclear winter that follows. But to our amazement, they don't care. They just want to make sure we don't exceed 1.5C...right

As for America's downfall, what can I say, Fred? I doubt that a basket of emerging nations' currencies can become the world reserve currency and crash the dollar but I don't care that much; America as a consuming society will never pay in BRICS for imports (we can be essentially self sustaining) or accepting BRICS for exports which makes things a bit difficult for them, we being the largest consumer importer in the world by far. Sure they can cause problems here and there. Yawn. Nothing that a few well-placed tariffs can't solve 😃.

Most important is to set the nuclear time clock well back, before 1 minute to midnight where it is right now. There now is hope that nuclear war will be averted... because Trump won...damn it still feels great to say that.

Boris Johnson made a trip to Kyiv to stop Zelensky having peace talks with Putin. The result was to bring the world even closer the thermonuclear war which liberals such as Fred and mugtech ignore, as if nuclear war were not possible. Clue: It is possible undrr ab unstable putin and would have been almost imminent if Harris won the election. Thank you Great Britain. - @danfinn

There's far too much money being made by Democrat politicians for Biden's war in Ukraine to end until the dems have finally gone.

Most people look at the arms sales and the billions being made from that trade, but hardly anyone is looking at sales of US shale gas since Russia invaded.

For the unaware - Make a spreadsheet with dates in the left column, major points about gas production (especially shale gas) in the next, the timeline of NATO expansion east, and the the Ukraine revolution and war in the right.

It would be less than heart attack inducing shocking if it turns out Obama and Biden have personal investments in US gas, or have been promised big payoffs at some future date.

As for nuclear war, allowing US profit making weapons to be fired deep into Russia, and allowing Ukraine's military to use Polish bases (NATO country) is an invitation for legitimate attacks on the US as part of the supply chain, and Polish hosted Ukrainian military targets. There goes a wider European war, or even a world war if the US attacks China and/or Iran.

A future nuclear war is a possibility, and it might well have started in Ukraine because of Biden's war there.

So while Fred is hoping that the dollar crashes - @danfinn

I would not like to see the Dollar crash as the fallout would be a worldwide economic disaster.

I would like to see the end of the Dollar for world trade as it has been weaponised. It no longer deserves its place as a world currency.

Given the new administration will ramp up anti-free trade policies, why would anyone want to use it?

And the impact will go way above Fred's head as he researches how BRICS will replace the dollar and yearns for its success. - @danfinn

Perhaps you could explain why local currency trading is a bad thing.

If a pair of countries use the Dollar, they have ForEx both ways to consider, and transactions are subject to US law and sanctions.

If they use their own payment system (gold, local money, or barter), they do not have to consider US law, and they only have one monetary exchange to make rather than two.

Why is that bad?

@muteck
I wonder if you hate the owners of the property that you purchased who allegedly took the toilet seats even though you can't remember if they were there or not or the management at Gilligan's Island that served up a dish that was good for 4 but you only got 3 pieces of chicken?

Hate is a very strong word, detest or dislike intensely may be more apt? As Fred stated we should all learn from history and not repeat/impose the same crap ever again,,,, human nature is difficult to get your head around.

OMO.

Cheers, Steve. - @bigpearl

Don't hate nothing' at all except hatred   Bob Dylan

@muteck
I wonder if you hate the owners of the property that you purchased who allegedly took the toilet seats even though you can't remember if they were there or not or the management at Gilligan's Island that served up a dish that was good for 4 but you only got 3 pieces of chicken?



OMO.

Cheers, Steve. - @bigpearl

No hate involved, easy to get new toilet seats, does not compare to "6 million in the ovens they fried, but now the Germans have God on their side."  Do not eat chicken, do not care who does.

@muteck
I wonder if you hate the owners of the property that you purchased who allegedly took the toilet seats even though you can't remember if they were there or not or the management at Gilligan's Island that served up a dish that was good for 4 but you only got 3 pieces of chicken?



OMO.

Cheers, Steve. - @bigpearl
No hate involved, easy to get new toilet seats, does not compare to "6 million in the ovens they fried, but now the Germans have God on their side." Do not eat chicken, do not care who does.
- @mugtech

Does Trump?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE2xBCbAl_A

Perhaps it's time to get back on topic guys?

Cheers, Steve.

@muteck






"6 million in the ovens they fried, but now the Germans have God on their side."
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Does Trump?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE2xBCbAl_A - @Fred

Bob Dylan was just being sarcastic.  Trump not concerned about God.

@muteck






"6 million in the ovens they fried, but now the Germans have God on their side."
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Does Trump?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE2xBCbAl_A - @Fred
Bob Dylan was just being sarcastic. Trump not concerned about God.
- @mugtech

Watch the link and consider his statement regarding the dyslexic dog

I hate being bipolar. It's awesome.

I hate being bipolar. It's awesome. - @Aidan in HCMC

I would claim I'm awesome but I like to be humble. I'm absolutely great at that.

@Fred

Your not so subtle comments comparing Trump to Hitler and so on are tiring. Kamala and company tried this and you can see how far it got them? Trump is a businessman and knows how to make deals that’s what it will take to end the Russian Ukraine war. 

I hate being bipolar. It's awesome. - @Aidan in HCMC

Your commenting here must mean that things are going slow in the Vietnam forum which recently kicked me out for a post on phones as not being relevant to Vietnam expat life, and also on the Indonesian forum (Fred) that is likely on life support. But we are different here and are actually happy that you joined. HCMC, I don't know how I end up with VN posts in my feed but it has only happened since you started commenting here. Now I have to be careful as a phils expat to make sure I am not inadvertently commenting on a VN thread lest your karen @cloud9 guy (or whatever) jumps down my throat.

@Fred
Your not so subtle comments comparing Trump to Hitler and so on are tiring. - @Morgacj200424

I only compared them in your head.