Coronavirus news Indonesia

Shill88 wrote:

The drive-thru tests for Covid-19 in West Java began yesterday and the figures show around 600 confirmed positive with about 300 in Sukabumi and 200 in Bandung already.

I haven't seen those reports. Perhaps you could link to them.

Fred wrote:

Shill88 wrote:

The drive-thru tests for Covid-19 in West Java began yesterday and the figures show around 600 confirmed positive with about 300 in Sukabumi and 200 in Bandung already.

I haven't seen those reports. Perhaps you could link to them.

Fred, have you been living in outer space? Try watching the national news on television. I saw it on TV One channel last night. Also there is an English language newspaper called the Jakarta Post that I read daily, and you can find it there too.

Shill88 wrote:

Agree, at the very least, take ample precautions when using those services.

Also heard that people with blood group O have a better chance of resisting the Covid-19. For me, I have my age and a cough that work against me, but my blood type is O so perhaps that's something in my favour. Unfortunately the wife and kids are all blood group A.

I actually looked into that several days ago but the claim was opposite it was blood group A that was more at risk, this was later denied by experts (so far) as no conclusive evidence "yet" to back this up so far

Gwmeath wrote:

One issue with rapid tests is they simply are not reliable currently, many european countries have sent these back to china, it is widely documented they are usualy 30% accurate all/ most news outlets have reported this and yes the very same tests they use in indonesia, ....

True, so another reason why numbers are wildly inaccurate. A good few people are knocking the Indonesian government for no reporting or lying, but the fact is 'best guess' is as good as it gets.

Gwmeath wrote:

Grab food/ gojeks i understand this is the normal for many, we stopped it in february, its a time bomb and russian rulette IMHO

I'm still using it - They've added automatic (optional) messages with instructions to drivers to leave food at the door in order to avoid contact.

Gwmeath wrote:

I actually looked into that several days ago but the claim was opposite it was blood group A that was more at risk, this was later denied by experts (so far) as no conclusive evidence "yet" to back this up so far

This started with a sample of 2,000+ covid19 positive cases in China where more A group people were infected than O group. However there was no proper control group and type by general population was not reported.
The holes are obvious so it's a bit pointless until further research has been carried out.

Gwmeath wrote:

Shill88 wrote:

Agree, at the very least, take ample precautions when using those services.

Also heard that people with blood group O have a better chance of resisting the Covid-19. For me, I have my age and a cough that work against me, but my blood type is O so perhaps that's something in my favour. Unfortunately the wife and kids are all blood group A.

I actually looked into that several days ago but the claim was opposite it was blood group A that was more at risk, this was later denied by experts (so far) as no conclusive evidence "yet" to back this up so far

Well it's still early stages so it seems nothing is confirmed yet. I first saw that China had made the study and read it on Fox News. If it's not true, then that's three factors working against me with Covid-19....lol

Lots of articles around on this topic.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/people-b … tudy-findshttps://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world/ch … _vPUq9GzIM

Gwmeath wrote:

One issue with rapid tests is they simply are not reliable

This applies to the less than perfect Bandung claims
There is no confirmation so we can't claim it as fact - The same goes for the rest.

https://en.tempo.co/read/1327645/226-po … urch-event

However, he asserted the results only indicated positive results, and that the definitive results only came from swab tests.

tiganasfx wrote:

Fred wrote:

A lot of places are doing IR thermometer, but not all. I've passed the local veggie man three days this week, and he's doing a great trade.
Local are skipping the markets in favour of guys like him.

These ir thermometers are grossly inaccurate and practically useless.

I've been measured as seriously hypothermic twice, the security guard in question happily showing me the gun's reading showing I wasn't infected.
Near death, but not infected.

Gwmeath wrote:

Quite probably air tempatures, but yes fools and yes your ill 😆

Outside as just now, I'll go with air temp, but inside a seriously air conned shop. Ner, that's just crap operators or crap gear.

Edit - I'm watching him at the moment. He's taking the temps as the door opens and the cold blast from the AC hits.

Silly boy

Fred wrote:

Gwmeath wrote:

Quite probably air tempatures, but yes fools and yes your ill 😆

Outside as just now, I'll go with air temp, but inside a seriously air conned shop. Ner, that's just crap operators or crap gear.

All the above

tiganasfx wrote:

https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2020/04/04/jump-in-jakarta-funerals-raises-fears-of-unreported-covid-19-deaths.html

Guesses and maybes from gentlemen with potential political gain have to be considered as possible rather than believed.
The stats appear higher, but there's nothing to say one or more factors other than covid19 aren't in play.

tiganasfx wrote:

https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2020/04/04/jump-in-jakarta-funerals-raises-fears-of-unreported-covid-19-deaths.html

Reports such as this are important whether they turn out to be truthful or not. The reason being that since the government has already admitted downplaying the true situation, people are left confused. Some read that the situation isn't all that bad due to the relatively low number of deaths from Covid-19 in Indonesia, and therefore see no real reason to self-isolate. Afterall, with a population of around 270 million, and only 181 deaths confirmed by Covid-19, then indeed why should anyone be all that worried? On the surface, it looks as if hardly anyone is dying in Indonesia from this virus. And those who do die form it are sometimes doctors who have direct contact with infected patients and probably quite a few people who are either very old or already sick with something else and were probably on their way out anyway.

So with the official count of less than 2,000 confirmed infected and just 181 deaths then why worry? It would seem that Indonesia is doing an excellent job of containing the virus, based on official figures.

Should we be worried at all? Or is there some kind of downplaying of the true situation? Scaremongers and hoaxers aside, the official situation seems to be well in control.

Seriously folks, with only 181 deaths and less than 2,000 infected, in a country of more than 270 million people why are people so worried?

Fred wrote:

tiganasfx wrote:

https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2020/04/04/jump-in-jakarta-funerals-raises-fears-of-unreported-covid-19-deaths.html

Guesses and maybes from a gentleman with potential political gain have to be considered as possible rather than believed.
The stats appear higher, but there's nothing to say one or more factors other than covid19 aren't in play.

You are a brave man to reply in such a way, especially in light of Indonesia's strict defamation laws.

Shill88 wrote:

The drive-thru tests for Covid-19 in West Java began yesterday and the figures show around 600 confirmed positive with about 300 in Sukabumi and 200 in Bandung already.

The problem with claims like this is it can be hard to show they aren't total crap.

https://regional.kompas.com/read/2020/0 … rapid-test

300 non-travelling people, police students in this case, positive using unreliable rapid tests, but I'm having trouble finding a story about 300 positive after roadside checks.
The same goes for Bandung where unreliable, unconfirmed tests have shown 200 plus POSSIBLE cases, but nothing about Jalan Tol.

Perhaps we need links to show the post isn't isn't an utter rubbish attempt to spread panic and troll.

Nizma Agustjik
They panic because they dumb stupid, brainless, heartless, do not think about the ordinary poeple, let alone the poor people. Egoistic, selfish, arrogant, inconsiderate..Jakarta is niot Wuhan or Beijing or Singapore...They think the pile of food stocks can resque them from the virus

What's next, burning down 5G towers because they spread coronavirus?

The long and the short is simple - spreading 'maybe' is a bit pointless.

Fred wrote:

Numbers showing maybes and possibilites from testing kits known to be unreliable are not worth a lot.

https://www.health.com/condition/infect … virus-testhttps://www.bbc.com/indonesia/indonesia-52031790

It's possible to report maybes, but not possible to report actual positives from these tests because all the rapid tests are inaccurate.

Wow! 677 maybe or maybe not cases.
Time to panic, or maybe not.

Take it up with the Governor Of West Java or the Jakarta Post, Fred