Fred went a wandering.
Geoffwhere wrote:And, sadly, empty!
The driver, a very friendly chap, was on his break so the bus wasn't in service at the time.
It had gone when I passed a few minutes later.
This scene was pretty much the same at every rest stop and a good few of the beach side parking areas and markets.
There's little by way of local habit here as far as throwing rubbish in bins is concerned, and very few bins anyway.

The question I have is, how soon after is the mess cleaned up?
For example, given a similar view in Bali, within a day (at most), the mess has been swept up and discarded.
Do you expect the same?
I think it’s important to stress this because as one surfs the internet there are lots of photos presented which look like your last shot…and those photos (like yours) were most likely taken right after the “event.”
However, and all too often, those photos are presented as something one should expect to see here on a regular basis (little or no clean up). A good example, aside from ceremonies and events, would be shots of various beaches on Bali taken shortly after a storm.
I don’t know the customs in Java anywhere as well as you, but here in Bali, cleaning (sweeping) goes on in virtually every compound, and in most all public areas, at least twice a day...very early AM and before late PM.
What is different in our adopted culture (Indonesia) is that trash is often simply dropped on the ground (even in Balinese compounds) as opposed to immediately placing the trash in some sort of receptacle (garbage or trash bin). But, the trash doesn’t last long on the ground before it’s swept up and discarded.
Sometimes I find this issue to go beyond trash and center on personal hygiene. What I mean by that is the occasional comments I hear from some newly arrived visitors along the lines of, “don’t these people ever take a bath?”
The custom in Bali is to mandi (bathe) at least twice a day…three times if the person is going to any sort of ceremony or temple. While heavily perfumed deodorants are not the norm here by any means, bathing, and a respect for cleanliness, is something I’ve noted as being very much a daily part of life in Indonesia.


A house ... sort of

The toilet

Some are even worse.
The drain is the river.

The gross carelessness is palpable and the arrogance of people who do this is shameful.
No good is done by papering over their bad behaviour by accepting that it will be picked up by 'someone else' after a few hours/days.
Whilst I recognise that this is an entrenched 'cultural issue', that doesn't excuse it and, in my opinion, this is something that will continue to hold back Indonesia's perception by those who have come to realise that rubbish left behind is unacceptable.
Decades ago, in my home country Australia, we had the same problem (although with a smaller population, not of such a huge magnitude) and the efforts of one individual, Iain Kiernan, through what has become a world wide phenomenon that originated as 'Clean Up Australia', the community at large is aware of and helps solve the littering problem.
Today, it's normal practice to walk a few meters to the nearest garbage bin and 'drop it in'.
The beginning here in Indonesia could be as fundamental as not excusing the practice in the first place by accepting that 'someone' will clean it up later.
People here who are unable to find work or feel they can do better by starting a micro business conduct a variety of trades, this one making fish food.


This attitude to work and their determination to look after their families strengthens my admiration for the Indonesian people.
The old way of calling Muslims to prayer was a drum as well as the vocal call. The drums were louder than the voice so would attract more attention over a greater distance. Many mosques still use the drum, and many more keep one as a nod to the past
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Goat skins are used as the cover

and old oil drums as the soundbox


Wandering around a village in Bintaro the othr day saw me pass a mosque, and guess what they had.


This guy is washing his clothes on his way to work.

You have to love Indonesian roads.

There is a national holiday for all, ceremonies everywhere and parties for everyone, but that needs a little cash.
Collecting cash is done in a lot of ways.
These dudes plonked a chair in the middle of the road and started to wave down cars in the hope of a little cash ... probably/possibly for their local event ... maybe.


As a little side note, I like the way Indonesian nationalism works. Anyone is welcome as long as they're positive to Indonesia, and that attitude is almost universal. The nationalism here is mostly about working together to make Indonesia the best it can be; very different from what nationalism has become in some places.
I like Indonesia - a lot.
I was waiting for my police criminal record check to be done, so I went for a little jaunt.
It doesn't matter where you go, there are hundreds of places to choose from.

These are either sponsored or owned by someone with political interests.

Protection from the sun and the rain is important

I'll bet Paris doesn't have these.

Washing the dishes properly is important

This old guy wanders around Bintaro selling his food, as he has done since I first moved to this area, and as he probably will do until he's unable to walk.

Every city, town and village has celebrations that includes kids' games and a whole host of things for everyone.
This is a field near Pondok Aren police station, and the site of what will be a record attempt for the number of Indonesian flags raised by married couples.
They're aiming at over a thousand flags going up.





These street shoe repair micro-companies are easy enough to find.


This top quality shopping centre in Karawaci, Tangerang was based on the Meadowhall design but given a serious boost. The 'Oasis' is a little bigger and has a wild variety of local and international food ... oh, and a funfair.



They put on shows and competitions as well, this being typical of the sort of stuff they do. These girls are doing a traditional Indonesian dance, and doing it very well.

Supermall has a very sweet technology area covering three wonderful floors with enough tech toys to keep the most serious nerds busy for hours.
This excellent shopping centre is well worth a visit
http://www.supermalkarawaci.com/
I passed the guys on my way home. (sorry about the poor quality, only had my phone with me)


These guys are shifting dirt with basic tools in order to dig holes for new electricity cables.

The guys have to manually pull the cables through, their job being hard and dirty. (Sorry about the poor photo lighting, the sun was in exactly the wrong place)

But there's a hole...

and a couple of dudes have to sit in it to keep the cables moving

As with any really dirty job, full bathroom facilities are provided

Some people ask if the subjects in my photos mind being snapped - No worries, it's a lot harder to get past without taking a snap than it is to take them. Indonesians tend to be very friendly, open people, and they generally love a bit of fame.
Have some proof.



Street vendors will cook with any means possible, and that can include a makeshift open fire if what they're cooking isn't their usual menu.
Fish anyone?



psb43 wrote:he has some nice hot coals going there, did you try the fish?
I'd just got back from an art exhibition in Jakarta and I was a lot more interested in getting to bed.
The local head and area head come first, them you go to the local office to get the letter you actually want.


If it's an ID card or very serious letter, there's an other stage to get through (At least for foreigners)
The main office for the area is where to go for that sort of thing, and get there early or you'll commonly have a long wait. My last visit got me there before the office opened, so I watched the roll call. This sort of thing is pretty much normal for government offices in Indonesia, and a lot of other places as well.


They're pretty much all amazingly friendly, as demonstrated by these taxi drivers.

That makes a difference to foreigners here in that they can't buy land, but they can buy apartments when no land is included in the sale.


His work

His bed

This is quite a common sight here, but so many people don't want to see it.


The stairs lead to a three story set of apartments inhabited by several families.

I have a home, but the tracks are full of life so commonly make interesting places to visit. You'd be amazed at what you see and the nice people you meet.

Te houses tend to be compact

but many a small business is run from these places


People, including small kids, walk on the tracks.


but trains are a serious danger as they travel at great speed and are surprisingly quiet until they get close .. and they get very close.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UadnaDj … e=youtu.be
How do you get rid of something that size without letting people enter a very dangerous structure?

They think they have a solution.


When you go anywhere in this country, you're expected to take little gift back, and they really should be something specific to the place you've been.
Carica (Pro - Charika) is the big thing in Wonosobo (apart from tea and tobacco), so I took a look around for some.

A very good friend who works there knows pretty much everyone, so he showed me the best place to go.
He knows a bloke who runs a local factory, so we went to visit.
Turns out the owner is a great bloke, so we ended up chatting for ages before I bought a few boxes of the stuff.


The parking bloke has pets.

They've put netting up so as little as possible falls onto the roads.

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