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"Since the dawn of time, there have been men who have refused

to be a slave to society's expectations."

     -- From the YouTube channel Relationship Strategies

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cccmedia
Famous men in history who never married.


Ludwig von Beethoven, famed German composer

James Buchanan, 15th president of the United States

Nikola Tesla, American inventor
SimCityAT
Famous men in history who never married.


Ludwig von Beethoven, famed German composer

- @cccmedia

Ludwig van Beethoven*
beppi
Nikola Tesla was Serbian and is counted as national hero in his country. He took on an additional USA citizenship in his later years. His lifestyle and focus on science and technology prevented him from having a meaningful social life, incl. relationships to women.

Ludwig van Beethoven had numerous amorous liaisons and lived with several women for periods of his life. Although it is correct that he was never formally married, I would see him as pioneer of hybrid relationships, rather than abstinence.

And as for that American guy you mentioned: I have never heard of him. Was he important?
abthree
05/08/22

And as for that American guy you mentioned: I have never heard of him. Was he important?
- @beppi

Wikipedia is your friend. 😃
SimCityAT
Nikola Tesla's first citizenship was actually Austrian (because of the Austrian Empire) and then later American.
beppi
Nikola Tesla's first citizenship was actually Austrian (because of the Austrian Empire) and then later American.
- @SimCityAT

Thanks for correcting me - of course: Serbia as an independent nation did not exist then!
He is nevertheless seen as national hero in Serbia.
beppi
05/08/22

And as for that American guy you mentioned: I have never heard of him. Was he important?
- @beppi

Wikipedia is your friend. 😃
- @abthree

It was a rhetorical question. (Or should I have written "If I never heard of him, he cannot have been important"?)

Anyway, I did as you suggested and found that he was a forgettable president who neither succeeded in ending slavery nor in preventing a civil war. And that was over 200 years ago and in a country then unimportant to the world, so of not much consequence nowadays.


abthree

05/08/22 It was a rhetorical question. (Or should I have written "If I never heard of him, he cannot have been important"?)

Don't worry, you managed to convey that quite clearly anyway.

Anyway, I did as you suggested and found that he was a forgettable president who neither succeeded in ending slavery nor in preventing a civil war. And that was over 200 years ago and in a country then unimportant to the world, so of not much consequence nowadays.


- @beppi

He certainly had nothing of greatness about him. In fact, he's generally considered the worst US President; Trump is his most serious challenger, but will probably just miss taking the title when the historians get through.   He came closer than anyone else ever has to letting the United States fall apart.  If he hadn't been succeeded by the greatest President (thanks in large part to the much-maligned Electoral College) that would almost certainly have happened.  The results of THAT would certainly be "of much consequence nowadays."
cccmedia
Happy Wife, Happy Life

No Wife, Awesome Life

  -- front of illustrated T-shirt offered starting today (May 8, 2022)
      at YouYube's The Optimized Man channel


Seen on YouTube video titled
          #1 financial mistake recently divorced men make
cccmedia
Jean Paul Sartre (1905-1980).

Sartre was a French philosopher and novelist who was a key figure in the Existentialism school of thought.  Man is condemned to a terrible freedom, Sartre believed .. and once man has acknowledged his freedom from authority, he must dedicate his freedom to a role in the world.

Sartre maintained an open relationship with philosopher and feminist icon Simone de Beauvoir starting in 1924 .. and they are buried together.

The Nobel committee voted Sartre its prize in literature for 1964 "for his work which, rich in ideas, and filled with the spirit of freedom and the quest for truth, has exerted a far-reaching influence on our age."

Sartre declined the Nobel Prize.  He never married.

Source... nobelprize.org
SimCityAT
Jean Paul Sartre (1905-1980).



Sartre maintained an open relationship with philosopher and feminist icon Simone de Beauvoir starting in 1924 .. and they are buried together.


- @cccmedia

They became a couple in 1929 and are buried together in Paris.

cccmedia
From a short essay by David Swindle...

"No financial or legal reasons exist for a man to marry.
I'll go even further -- no secular reasons exist for
a man to marry.  Choosing marriage is an entirely
unreasonable act, contrary to male nature and
self-interest.  It's an act of self-sacrifice in which
the man decides to give up his own life so he can
take care of his wife and their children, giving them
a life better than the one he knew himself.

"There's only one reason why anyone should marry:
Because they believe in a religion that says you have
to get married and have as many children as possible
and that happiness will follow.  If a transcendent God
doesn't exist and death is the absolute end, then
what difference does it make if a man spends
his money on a wife and kids or on toys and escorts?"

  -- e-published at pjmedia.com
SimCityAT
What is the point of this post? Are you just posting random cr^p?
beppi
Simcity: The main point of his post is probably saying that this Mr. Swindle didn't get the point (of why humankind is forming fixed partnerships since as long as science can tell).
Or maybe he believes in tit himself and uses it in order to believe that bad luck with the opposite sex is a reasonable decision.
SimCityAT
Simcity: The main point of his post is probably saying that this Mr. Swindle didn't get the point (of why humankind is forming fixed partnerships since as long as science can tell).
Or maybe he believes in tit himself and uses it in order to believe that bad luck with the opposite sex is a reasonable decision.
- @beppi

Sorry, he posts incorrect stuff, the posts are more bizarre and he has the audacity to question me to post a thread about the Olympic games. I am unflowing this this thread.
Cheryl

Hello to all,


I hope that you are doing well.

As you know,the Expat Cafe - open discussions is a place where you can post random stuff without being off topic. That is exactly what ccc media has done here. You also noticed that this is something he does often on this forum.

You have the right to disagree with what someone posts, but keep in mind that you are all Experts on different forums and argumentative posts are not really nice to see from an Expert.

If you want to discuss this topic further, let me know via private message.

For now, let's take a deep breath, be friendly and try to be understanding.

I can count on you.1f609.svg

Cheers,

Cheryl

walterparrish
@Cheryl

I hope you do notget any abuse inviting people to discuss this. Hedonistic societies have existeda ahas have organised social structures to give order to random lifes.Ihave four wonderful children, but , was my choice, and if you do ot want to have children or marry , do not. But donotfather children unless you are going to be responsible for them. They did not choose to be concieved, that is a act for which both parties are responsible, completely until, the child is an Adult
cccmedia
YouTuber says he retired on 10K USD per year
through 'geographic arbitrage' strategy.

Jason Fieber explains how he parlayed the
bachelor lifestyle and geographic arbitrage
to retire from workaday life in his early 30's.

He presents the concept of earning money by
investing in first-world markets' dividend stocks
and thereby collecting at least $10,000 US per year.

The geographic arbitrage is achieved by earning
the first-world money while living in Mexico City
or the Philippines or Bangkok (Jason's home) ..
while not supporting a family .. and while pursuing
a lifestyle that costs a minor fraction of what it
would cost him back in North America.

He now focuses on his investing and his YouTube
channel, which has 75,000 subscribers.

Search at YouTube.com...
       dividends and income
           I retired on $10,000 a year

I do not receive any compensation for discussing
the Dividends and Income channel or Jason's
activities.

   -- cccmedia



beppi
CCCmedia: If you think surviving on US$210k/year is remarkable, please consider that this amount is (coincidentally) the average yearly income of all humans currently living. That means: Half of them manage to live on less (and some much less)!
But if you meant it is remerkable that he gets that much in passive income without doing anything of value for it: Shame on that lazy bastard!
cccmedia
YouTube viewer responds to Dividends/
    Geographic Arbitrage Strategy.

Among the first viewers of the Dividends
channel to respond was Andrew Hardcastle...

"Can't agree with you more, you demonstrate
how attainable it really is.  Not only in Thailand
but many places around the world.  Great
info video... I love dividends."






OceanBeach92107
CCCmedia: If you think surviving on US$210k/year is remarkable, please consider that this amount is (coincidentally) the average yearly income of all humans currently living. That means: Half of them manage to live on less (and some much less)!
But if you meant it is remerkable that he gets that much in passive income without doing anything of value for it: Shame on that lazy bastard!
- @beppi
Is that a typo?

I can't see where he said $210k USD.

Maybe you meant $10k USD?

Cheers!
beppi
CCCmedia: If you think surviving on US$210k/year is remarkable, please consider that this amount is (coincidentally) the average yearly income of all humans currently living. That means: Half of them manage to live on less (and some much less)!
But if you meant it is remerkable that he gets that much in passive income without doing anything of value for it: Shame on that lazy bastard!
- @beppi

My post contained a typing error, which obscured the message (and unfortunately I cannot edit it any longer):

The average income of humankind is of course US$ 10 k / year, not 210 k.
Anyone earning above that is rich on a global scale!

Thanks to Oceanbeach for pointing this out!
OceanBeach92107
CCCmedia: If you think surviving on US$210k/year is remarkable, please consider that this amount is (coincidentally) the average yearly income of all humans currently living. That means: Half of them manage to live on less (and some much less)!
But if you meant it is remerkable that he gets that much in passive income without doing anything of value for it: Shame on that lazy bastard!
- @beppi

My post contained a typing error, which obscured the message (and unfortunately I cannot edit it any longer):

The average income of humankind is of course US$ 10 k / year, not 210 k.
Anyone earning above that is rich on a global scale!

Thanks to Oceanbeach for pointing this out!
- @beppi
I'm glad you didn't take offense, Frank.

Without the typo, you definitely make a good point.

I live like a king in Vietnam on about $55k USD net income per year.

It humbles me that, in Vietnam, I'm surrounded by people who are somehow surviving on $300.00 USD or less per month (yes, less than $4k USD per year).

Gordy
beppi
Oceanbeach: Offense for pointing out my mistakes? On the contrary: I am glad you did!
Have a good time in Vietnam - it is best to keep in mind how good our life is (and not how bad)!
cccmedia
The Bachelors of Britain.

After 1972 -- a year in which over 480,000 couples married in the U.K. -- that number dropped 40 percent in the next four decades.  The statistic is provided by the Office of National Statistics.

For an army of women, reports the Daily Mail, Mr. Right is simply not there. no matter how hard they look for him.  And the reason?  When it comes to marriage, men are on strike.  The rewards are far fewer than they used to be .. and the downside is much more treacherous.

"Ultimately, men know there's a good chance they'll lose their friends, their respect, their space, their sex life, their money, and -- if it all goes wrong -- their family," says author Dr. Helen Smith, who has studied why 21st century men are boycotting marriage.

Writes Dr. Smith:  "They don't want to enter into a legal contract with someone who could effectively take half their savings, pension and property when the honeymoon period is over.

"Men aren't wimping out by staying unmarried or being commitment phobes.  They're being smart."

Take the case of a Brit named Alan Miller.  [To be continued...]
cccmedia
The case of Alan Miller.

When British businessman Alan Miller married his wife Melissa in 2003, he thought it was forever.

She immediately decided to give up work including her 85,000-pound salary to become a so-called 'Harvey Nichols wife' -- devoted to shopping and lunching.

When they separated after two years nine months, Alan Miller was forced to pay her a 5 million-pound divorce settlement, which included his 2.7 million-pound house in Chelsea and 2.3 million pounds in a lump sum, even though the couple were childless.

---

Former Arsenal footballer Ray Parlour was married for six years.  In divorce he was ordered to pay his ex-wife 406,500 pounds annually from his future earnings.  That was in addition to Parlour having to give his ex two mortgage-free houses, paying regular child support for their three children and paying a tax-free lump sum to her of 250,000 pounds.

Source... dailymail.co.uk
beppi
And the point is?
Are you trying to say that marriage is unfair to men because, in case of separation, the women can get compensation for putting their own career and financial situation on hold to take care of the relationship and family? (I thought such views, and largely also such personal arrangements, are a thing of the last century.)
Or are you saying that women are suckers and don't deserve to be loved? (That, too, would be a pretty questionable view - at least as a generalization.)
GuestPoster491
The case of Alan Miller.

When British businessman Alan Miller married his wife Melissa in 2003, he thought it was forever.

She immediately decided to give up work including her 85,000-pound salary to become a so-called 'Harvey Nichols wife' -- devoted to shopping and lunching.

When they separated after two years nine months, Alan Miller was forced to pay her a 5 million-pound divorce settlement, which included his 2.7 million-pound house in Chelsea and 2.3 million pounds in a lump sum, even though the couple were childless.

---

Former Arsenal footballer Ray Parlour was married for six years.  In divorce he was ordered to pay his ex-wife 406,500 pounds annually from his future earnings.  That was in addition to Parlour having to give his ex two mortgage-free houses, paying regular child support for their three children and paying a tax-free lump sum to her of 250,000 pounds.

Source... dailymail.co.uk
- @cccmedia


I believe there's this thing called a "prenuptial" agreement that can avoid such situations, or at least make them more favorable than a court will often decide. 


Anytime there's significant disparity between income and/or assets, I think protecting those should be considered.
cccmedia
Prenuptial agreements.

Dear Romaniac,

Prenups have protected many men, but are not 'bullet-proof'.

For instance, divorce courts can order major awards for child support based on the number of children and the lifestyle they previously enjoyed.

---

Also, let's look at the case of the famous baseball slugger Barry Bonds.

In 1987 as a 23-year-old player with Pittsburgh making $100,000 a year, Bonds met his future wife Sun in Montreal.  Sun was a Swedish woman with questionable ability to understand English legalese.

She signed a pre-nup prepared by Bonds' lawyer one day before her 1988 wedding to Bonds.

In 1994, when divorce proceedings were underway, the pre-nup was challenged on the bases that Sun did not have her own lawyer, may not have understood the terms of the contract and may have been under duress -- the wedding might have been called off at the last minute without her signature.

A long and costly legal battle ensued .. and the matter was ultimately settled.

---

By then, Bonds was earning $5-million a year from the San Francisco Giants.  If a superstar baseball player with enormous wealth available to hire the best attorneys had to struggle through a costly divorce even with a pre-nup, his case is a cautionary tale for lesser mortals.

cccmedia
abthree
05/22/22 Prenuptial agreements.

If a superstar baseball player with enormous wealth available to hire the best attorneys had to struggle through a costly divorce even with a pre-nup, his case is a cautionary tale for lesser mortals.



Certainly a cautionary tale for sleazeballs who try to take advantage of emotions and a power imbalance to foist a one-sided agreement on a soon-to-be mate.

"She signed a pre-nup prepared by Bonds' lawyer one day before her 1988 wedding to Bonds."

That says it all.  If Bonds had had "the best attorneys", they would have warned him that a court would refuse to enforce a pre-nup that it judged to be "unconscionable", and they would have told him how to avoid that:  by paying for an independent attorney of his fiancée's choice to advise her in the negotiations, with no interference from him.   Maybe he didn't get that advice, or maybe he did and ignored it.   Either way, he got himself a bum pre-nup, and it blew up in his face.
beppi
Cccmedia: You seem to be ignoring our comments about your one-sided view of things. Marriages (and relationships in general) are NOT a financial matters that can be guided by contracts and lawyers. And men are NOT generally disadvantaged (in fact, in most societes this is true for women)!
If a few people with more money than brain get fleeced by smarter, greedy women, that is a matter for the courts - but it does not change the greater picture of how our societies work, neiher should it be a topic of general interest.
So I still fail to see what you want to achieve with these posts?
GuestPoster491
Prenuptial agreements.

Dear Romaniac,

Prenups have protected many men, but are not 'bullet-proof'.

For instance, divorce courts can order major awards for child support based on the number of children and the lifestyle they previously enjoyed.

---

Also, let's look at the case of the famous baseball slugger Barry Bonds.

In 1987 as a 23-year-old player with Pittsburgh making $100,000 a year, Bonds met his future wife Sun in Montreal.  Sun was a Swedish woman with questionable ability to understand English legalese.

She signed a pre-nup prepared by Bonds' lawyer one day before her 1988 wedding to Bonds.

In 1994, when divorce proceedings were underway, the pre-nup was challenged on the bases that Sun did not have her own lawyer, may not have understood the terms of the contract and may have been under duress -- the wedding might have been called off at the last minute without her signature.

A long and costly legal battle ensued .. and the matter was ultimately settled.

---

By then, Bonds was earning $5-million a year from the San Francisco Giants.  If a superstar baseball player with enormous wealth available to hire the best attorneys had to struggle through a costly divorce even with a pre-nup, his case is a cautionary tale for lesser mortals.

cccmedia
- @cccmedia

Picking an anecdote about someone with such questionable character as Barry Bonds, doesn't lend well to your argument.  Picking any "celebrity" or person of status, isn't representative necessarily of the other 99% of the population that deals with these issues on a regular basis.
cccmedia
Anonymous bachelor at Elephant Journal on
    "Reasons I Like Being Single" 


I get more work done with less guilt.

I exercise more.

It's cheaper.

I sit around blabbing less.

Less drama.

Less planning all the time.

Loneliness is kinda nice.

I like sleeping alone any way, I'm big (6'3") and like to spread out.



  -- posted at elephantjournal.com



beppi
Loneliness is kinda nice.

- @cccmedia
Only ***can believe in this - probably a way of coping with their problems with others.
I believe that humans are social animals - if you're not social, you're not human!

Since this thread seems to be one man posting his questionable views and ignoring all others, I willunsubscribe.
Moderated by Cheryl 3 years ago
Reason : Unnecessary comment
cccmedia

Famous bachelor does it again.


Famous bachelor and actor Leonardo DiCaprio

has followed his longtime pattern .. and

broken off with a girlfriend before she

passed age 25.


DiCaprio, 47, had been dating American model

and actress Camila Morrone.


According to the episode 'DiCaprio Strikes Again!'

on the YouTube channel The Optimized Man,

this is the eighth time DiCaprio has broken it off

with a girlfriend age 25 or under.


Among the more famous of DiCaprio's

former flames are Blake Lively, Israeli

actress and swimsuit model Bar Rafaeli and

fashion icon Gisele Bundchen (currently

Mrs. Tom Brady).  All were 25 or under at

the time of their split from the star of

'Titanic' and 'The Great Gatsby'.  Recent girlfriend

of four years Camila Morrone was born the

year 'Titanic' premiered (1997).


According to Yahoo! News, recent photos have

emerged of DiCaprio vacationing on

the French Riviera with his "rumored new girlfriend,"

Ukrainian model Maria Beregova.  She is 22 and

lives in London, according to Yahoo! News.




cccmedia

A message for single guys from

The Unplugged Alpha.


Red Pill men's coaches are near-unanimous

in saying a main reason that men are

avoiding opportunities to marry in

Western countries .. is family law.


"Family law is one of the biggest reasons

why guys should not live in a way that

looks like marriage," says Rich Cooper,

author of The Unplugged Alpha.


Family law, says Cooper, has evolved

to become "hostile towards men....

Laws do not apply the same to men

and to women....


"Family law is the number one reason

why you should never get married.

I'm not saying don't have kids.

I'm not saying don't have a relationship

with a woman or women. 


"All I'm saying is don't live in a way

that invites the government to decide

what happens to your kids, to your assets,

to your investments, to your

retirement funds, to your cars, boats,

motorcycles... businesses and

business-related assets.


"Why?  Why would you want to

complicate your life unncecessarily?"


Cooper says he still has lunches with his

personal divorce lawyer .. and recalls

asking the attorney at lunch if he

would ever marry again...


"He said 'No, Rich, I don't see any

benefits in it.  I've resigned myself to

being a lifelong bachelor.  That's just

the way I'm gonna be.'  And he's got a

girlfriend.  They live in separate homes.

He's happy with his life.  And if she

doesn't like that, he lets her go..."


---


Rich Cooper has a YouTube channel

with the same name as his book

The Unplugged Alpha.


I do not receive compensation from

Cooper or his channel, nor from any

other person or entity I mention on

this thread.


cccmedia

cccmedia

Slow down, he says, you're movin' too fast.


The host of the Alpha Male 2.0 podcast,

Caleb Jones, has a message for young men...


"Most of you morons fall in love on the third

date and you want to get married immediately.

You're an idiot.  You're an idiot with one-itis

and you need mental health counseling ..

or you need me to punch you in the head.

I don't know what your problem is."


Divorced in his early 30's, Jones dated

widely for a decade and did not rush

into marriage again.


"Why did I take it so slow?  'Cause I wanted

to make g*ddamn sure this was the

ideal woman for me."


The more important a relationship is,

the slower you have to take it, says Jones.

The more potential you think

a woman has, the longer you have to wait,

to make sure she has that potential, he says.


Jones says it's important to recognize that

a woman cannot tell you who she is, she can

only show you who she is.


He waited four years to move in with his

current wife, "Pink Firefly," with whom he

has a relationship that is non-monogamous.


At YouTube.com:

can you find the perfect woman

        alpha male 2.0

Mac68

Slow down, he says, you're movin' too fast.
The host of the Alpha Male 2.0 podcast,
Caleb Jones, has a message for young men...

"Most of you morons fall in love on the third
date and you want to get married immediately.
You're an idiot. You're an idiot with one-itis
and you need mental health counseling ..
or you need me to punch you in the head.
I don't know what your problem is."

Divorced in his early 30's, Jones dated
widely for a decade and did not rush
into marriage again.

"Why did I take it so slow? 'Cause I wanted
to make g*ddamn sure this was the
ideal woman for me."

The more important a relationship is,
the slower you have to take it, says Jones.
The more potential you think
a woman has, the longer you have to wait,
to make sure she has that potential, he says.

Jones says it's important to recognize that
a woman cannot tell you who she is, she can
only show you who she is.

He waited four years to move in with his
current wife, "Pink Firefly," with whom he
has a relationship that is non-monogamous.

At YouTube.com:
can you find the perfect woman
    alpha male 2.0
-@cccmedia


Non monogamous? a dance step away from no commitment at all.

Well, hell we need more women to respond to some of this.

Commentary is strictly male in context, my opinion, likely my wife's also.

Still, would be more realistic to listen to what a woman has to say.

A marriage is a commitment 100 + percent + both ways. We know what 'we'

both ways, are getting 'into' and should be 'perceived' as to be both ways also. Again, just my

monogamous opinion speaking.

A a former employer, with a good number of  employees. As I once told a 'player' employee: " If you want to

brag about your lack of commitment with your family, then why should I expect you to commit

to any loyalty to the people of our company?

The flaw in commentary of our Expat site is just that! Way too many of us guys, speaking

our minds, no balance in perspective. Guess that the way it works, ...for now. Until

a strooooog woman shows up here, kicks ass, takes names, brings more balance.

Then that's just what it will be.

My opinion anyway, just mine? maybe? anyone else? Huh?

OK, lets wait and listen.

MAc

OceanBeach92107

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