Absolutely Anything Else

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

My talent is I don't give a Da*.

Yes I noticed. Carry on. I believe Hungary's Got Talent are short of talent, and are now trying to scrape the top of the barrel. Any thoughts on auditioning?

fluffy2560 wrote:

One thing I know from here is that quite a lot of people have problems seeing the likely consequences of their actions.

Indeed. I have an inherent fire risk in that I stick a pile of smoking leaves into my gob at any opportunity. I also make sure I put them out properly, in an ashtray, and don't leave my filthy disgusting cigarette buts on the street but put them in my pocket and into my bin.

It is not that they don1t understand the risks, it is that they don't care, it is Somebody Else's Problem.  Well it is both really. I have no problem with taking calculated risks but humans are just incredibly ignorant as to what the actual risk of something is, unless you are a bookmaker or an actuary, which is the same thing really (we have had this discussion before). People have an extremely skewed idea of daily risks.

just as an example, I worked on contract for a chemical company in New Jersey and they insisted, it was part of their company policy, that you hold on to the bannister rail as you are going up or down the stairs. You would be told off if you didn't. And then you think well why not? THat is what it is there for. And always now I hold on to the bannister rail, baluster technically. I am perfectly capable of walking up a flight of stairs without using the banister. It just gets drilled in to you to hold on to the banister so that if you slip, you slip a couple of risers not the whole damned flight. Makes perfect sense. And  I ran up the stairs at a station in England to catch the last train and knocked my two front teeth clean out. This was about twenty five years ago and the falsies are still screwed in properly, about the only decent teeth I have in my head now.

A lot of the older Metro stations, they are not so good with bannister rails. The russian ones on M3, there are at each side but great wide open steps. They should put a bannister rail down the middle, really, if for nothing else but to separate incoming and outgoing traffic, which is half the reason they do that on the London Underground.

I think Fluffy and i would agree you just do not compromise on safety. We may disagree about what is safe, but we have the same approach. There are enough hazards in this life that you don't need to add more of your own.

A lot of "health and safety" is nonsense and that is the stuff that gets on to the topical news comedy programmes, and fair enough. The number of miners saved by wearing hard hats (what used to be called pith helmets) is incalcuble, because they survived. The number who did not wear them is easily calcuble, because you only have to look up the death statistics and you can find out. People don't wear seatbelts. Even Jeremy Clarkson has said that seatbelts have saved millions of lives. Oh it is too much effort. What,.two seconds, clunk click every trip? What effort is that?

Oh I am not going far. 90% of motoring accidents happen within a kilometre of your home. I am not sure what you can do about that... maybe move house I suppose

SimonTrew wrote:

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

My talent is I don't give a Da*.

Yes I noticed. Carry on. I believe Hungary's Got Talent are short of talent, and are now trying to scrape the top of the barrel. Any thoughts on auditioning?

I'd need my side kick Lisa first.
I now remember when we were guests on the talk show Vikki Lawrence was working the crowd before shooting.She was Carol Burnett"s side kick on her old tv show in the US
She went up to my sister and i and started a conversation with us, she thought we were twins.
In fact we 3 ladies all had bright red hair which is probably why she came over to us in the first place.
Have to say at least in public Ms. lawrence was super nice and my God she had the smoothest face I've ever seen, so bright and clear.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

she had the smoothest face I've ever seen, so bright and clear.

This recommendation by Marilyn is brought to you by L'Oreal, the makers of scented lard.

Now lard is a good english word. SzerteszsÍr you can hardly fit it on the packet. Lard is a much better word.

But fank (Hungarian) is a much better word than donut or doughnut, somehow. Fank is an excellent word. I have had many a good fank in Budapest

Fanks for the memories...

Sorry for my lack of coherence but for a few minutes I was confusing Marilyn with somebody who gives a damn.

Yeah that is one of the peculiarities of the Budapest Metro, that where there are three escalators the middle one is always cordoned off.

On the London Underground it may not be running but you can use it as a set of stairs if you feel like it, but here in Budapest they cordon it off so you MUST take the escalator and of course no Hungarian would ever dream of walking up an escalator so you look a right pillock if you do (I prefer to look like a pillock)

There is a nice cartoon drawn by er not Fougasse was it? In WW2 to tell people to stand on the right, walk on the left. It is signed all over the Tube. Was it Fougasse? I would have to check now. I checked, yes it was. Got it right for a change.

The idea of walking up an escalator seems very foreign in Hungary. Once, though, I made the fatal mistake of walking up the middle stairs at Hampstead, that is 192 feet up from platform to station. The thing is once you start you better not stop or you look even more of an idiot than you already did. I was bloody exhausted when I got to the top.

I have been up the down escalator at Paddington station. I can't remember why, a bet I imagine. They are cunningly hard to get up, down escalators. More tricky than you would think.

SimonTrew wrote:

Sorry for my lack of coherence but for a few minutes I was confusing Marilyn with somebody who gives a damn.

I may be wrong, but I was under the impression her comment was specifically regarding other people's "claim" to their supposed "talents". Not that she does not give a da** in general to otherwise important issues. Such as people causing fire hazards.

And if I am correct in my above assessment:  I agree with her. I am unimpressed by what many would say is a "talent".

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

45 mins. to get into Auqa world, YIKES!
They should at least go around and hand out water to those waiting to get in.
Hope it was fun, I wished I went swimming yesterday but I thought it would rain, can't trust the weather reports.
....

They DID go around and hand out some water and some small bags of chewy sweets (US: candy).   It was extremely hot waiting in the queue even with all the doors and windows open.  It looked like we were going to have a major storm but but the heavy black clouds just moved away.   

I see clouds forming up now over here so I reckon we'll have a major downpour soon but my barometer is not showing lowering pressure or a likelihood of rain.  It's like 28 C inside (didn't put the airco on - prefer natural breeze) and probably over 30 C outside.

SimonTrew wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

That quote, might be a non-sequitur as there's no logical connection.

It is not a non sequitur (i.e. literally "it does not follow") it is a perfectly good case of modus ponens ponens. If men do nothing, evil follows. That is the first premiss. If men do not do nothing, evil does not follow. That is the second premiss. Therefore by conjunction we have either that men do nothing and we have evil, or men do not-nothing (syntactically let's call that "something")  and we do not have evil. It is perfectly logically sound.

of course it requires the Law of Excluded Middle (i.e. "that that is is that that is not that that is not that that is") to assume that if men do not-nothing, i.e. something,  then evil will not prosper, but as a basic construction of modus ponens ponens it is logically sound.

There is no room for it that men who do something may actually add to the evil. you need something other than a binary logic for that.

What you have interpreted is you are expecting a tautology when it is only an implication.

Here endeth the lesson on basic propositional logic. Next time, predicate calculus...

Ok, I'll play a bit and be randomly contrarian.....

Apart from the double negatives clouding readability, you missed out a major part of your rather absolutist analysis.   Rewriting the quote (even though I did it), loses key elements.

It's "...good men..." but my point was who and what is evil and the same questions for good?   

That subjectivity is critical because it takes away the basis of your own proposition and is the subject of mine.   

One of my main thoughts would be if evil has to exist for good or otherwise men to act.  I have  still not entirely reconciled that in my mind.  One could think possibly evil always exists lurking ready to be activated or that good men in fact define their own version of evil.   Perhaps it's like  opposing forces - whatever force is applied over time (from evil say), the good men will apply a counter force by an equal amount thereby maintaining the status quo (over time).

Of course, the action is on a scale - as proposed by klsalle's MLK proposition that delaying action is tantamount to doing nothing. A example for that - which helps practically contextualise - might be refusing to intervene in Syria.

So probably closer to a non-sequitur as it's written.  Tautology I deliberately didn't mention because of that subjectivity element and it would be too absolutist.

klsallee wrote:

SimonTrew wrote:

Sorry for my lack of coherence but for a few minutes I was confusing Marilyn with somebody who gives a damn.

I may be wrong....

...if I am correct in my above assessment:  I agree with her. I am unimpressed by what many would say is a "talent".

Kisallee, the lack-of-talent spotter. Can you sign me up? I can leap tall buildings in, ohhh, maybe two or three bounds. i can stop buses at request stops with a single outstretched hand. TRUTH JUSTICE AND A PORK PIE. FOR I AM.... PRETTYGOODMAN. Not super, just pretty good.

klsallee wrote:

SimonTrew wrote:

Sorry for my lack of coherence but for a few minutes I was confusing Marilyn with somebody who gives a damn.

I may be wrong, but I was under the impression her comment was specifically regarding other people's "claim" to their supposed "talents". Not that she does not give a da** in general to otherwise important issues. Such as people causing fire hazards.

And if I am correct in my above assessment:  I agree with her. I am unimpressed by what many would say is a "talent".

Read me like a book!

I care about the BIG stuff, all else is total BS.
I know too real and too boring sometimes...
It's hard to stay out of the Matrix.

SimonTrew wrote:

klsallee wrote:

SimonTrew wrote:

Sorry for my lack of coherence but for a few minutes I was confusing Marilyn with somebody who gives a damn.

I may be wrong....

...if I am correct in my above assessment:  I agree with her. I am unimpressed by what many would say is a "talent".

Kisallee, the lack-of-talent spotter. Can you sign me up? I can leap tall buildings in, ohhh, maybe two or three bounds. i can stop buses at request stops with a single outstretched hand. TRUTH JUSTICE AND A PORK PIE. FOR I AM.... PRETTYGOODMAN. Not super, just pretty good.

Ah, where's my trolling cape.....

Pretty Good? 

How about just average being good enough?

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

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Read me like a book!

I care about the BIG stuff, all else is total BS.
I know too real and too boring sometimes...
It's hard to stay out of the Matrix.

It's too late Marilyn, you are already in the Matrix along with the rest of us.

People are experimenting now to prove/disprove we're in a simulation.

SimonTrew wrote:

Kisallee, the lack-of-talent spotter. Can you sign me up?

Just use the tool I use to spot lack of talent. A mirror. Works every time.

But seriously*: I actually did not say I can spot lack of talent. Just when I do spot talent, I am not often impressed by it. **   

*Well, actually, not.....
** Is that a non-sequitur? 

klsallee wrote:

SimonTrew wrote:

Kisallee, the lack-of-talent spotter. Can you sign me up?

Just use the tool I use to spot lack of talent. A mirror. Works every time.

But seriously*: I actually did not say I can spot lack of talent. Just when I do spot talent, I am not often impressed by it. **   

*Well, actually, not.....
** Is that a non-sequitur? 

Yes,  ** I think it's also a tautology.

fluffy2560 wrote:

How about just average being good enough?

Being average is more than good enough. It is great. Being average means one is better than half (or there abouts) the human population!

Being average means being better than about 3.7 billion people!

Woo Hoo !

klsallee wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

How about just average being good enough?

Being average is more than good enough. It is great. Being average means one is better than half (or there abouts) the human population!

Being average means being better than about 3.7 billion people!

Woo Hoo !

AverageMan trumps PrettyGoodMan!  Yay! 

Next Marvel hero (average) movie!

klsallee wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

How about just average being good enough?

Being average is more than good enough. It is great. Being average means one is better than half (or there abouts) the human population!

Being average means being better than about 3.7 billion people!

Woo Hoo !

So true, most of us really don't have a clue how good we have it.
I've always had a roof over my head and never went to sleep hungry, we are blessed and don't even know it.
Never enough for most people to be average, living under the radar is perfect.
Of course we all would enjoy the finer things in life but in reality sometimes objects still leave people cold inside.
I remember once in my "prima donna" times when I wanted to buy something, can't even remember what it was and my husband said no, not now.
I actually ( spoiled brat) put my head in my beautiful backyard pool and said I was going to off myself.
What was I thinking at the time? No clue, glad I no longer feel the need to make objects reflect how much status I have.
I have no excuse for that insane episode but to say that sometimes when things come to us easy we feel we deserve more and more, no. one attitude that makes this world impossible for billions of others.
Learned my lessons, the hard way. Objects, things don't mean anything if your insides are rotten and you do not find peace within yourself.
Wow, I sound like some old wise sage... hardly, still learning lessons everyday.

Just feeling a bit of my  empath ways.
Got a message from my friend in Hawaii and she mentioned her one son who is still in rehab for about the 3rd or 4th time.
He stabbed himself and almost cut off one of his fingers.
Such a good looking young man with such a sweet mother, her other son is a doctor in Honolulu and never gives her any grief.
Of course I feel horrible that my friend has to suffer knowing at any time her son my actually do himself in. Heartbreaking, that's a real problem. Not getting some material item one wants and thinking it would be the end if they didn't get it is just disgusting.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

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I actually ( spoiled brat) put my head in my beautiful backyard pool and said I was going to off myself.
What was I thinking at the time? No clue, glad I no longer feel the need to make objects reflect how much status I have.
I have no excuse for that insane episode but to say that sometimes when things come to us easy we feel we deserve more and more, no. one attitude that makes this world impossible for billions of others.
.....my friend has to suffer knowing at any time her son my actually do himself in. Heartbreaking, that's a real problem. Not getting some material item one wants and thinking it would be the end if they didn't get it is just disgusting.

Sounds like trying to get a bit of attention and causing drama as a way to do it.  Our teenage Fluffyette has the same kind of thinking sometimes.     

But your friend's son needs mental health help as he sounds unbalanced.  Sounds like he's actually asking for it by all of the actions and his Doc brother ought to be able to help him get help.  If he was really up to doing himself in, he'd quietly go to the volcano or the nearest large building throw himself in/off.  If he repeatedly tries to hurt himself, one day, he'll succeed.

I was gathering my thoughts here , about to write my friend.
It's complicated as much in life is.
He is in his 30's now, believe me she and her husband his step-dad have spent tons of money on his treatments. His last girlfriend was a counselor at his last rehab center in Ca.
My friend is in HI but her son is now in Ca where his sister now lives.
They fly to Ca often to check on him.
Her first husband killed himself at home and I believe this is the child who found the body in the morning.
My friend is blessed with a great second husband but still this has to be allot of undo stress on them. Her husband is around 70 and I am sure he doesn't need this sort of pressure.
Thank God my friend is a well balanced and positive sort of person.
A weaker soul would of snapped by now.
On the outside my friend looks like she has a sweet life, 2 homes in Hawaii, a new husband who was a lawyer , a boy who is a doctor and lives in a beautiful place, one never really knows what someone is going through the outside appearances.

Just wrote my friend, hard to not be patronizing and also be supportive.

I know they are trying their best , her husband has paid for all these pricey treatments centers where he lives full time.

On the lighter note, was Aqua world worth the cost and wait times? It looks like a fun place but if over crowded that's a kill joy for me.
Last summer my cousin from Conn. and his wife visited Budapest for the second summer in a row.
Only had 3 days here so it was a crunch to go out everyday and night and show them around before they headed off to a family reunion in N. Italy.
i went with them to Szehenyi for only 3 hours.
We arrived around 11 am, my husband dropped us off at the front and picked us up when we finished up.
He didn't feel like going since we had been running around the day before etc.
It was something like 4,800  each to get in but it was so crowded it was a kill joy in some ways.
paid then were told to walk around outside the building to another entrance   to get a locker because the new side was full.
Did that, walked up the stairs in the heat and were told to go to yet another  area to get in.
We were sent to old un renewed area and it was jam packed with tourists in the locker room, had to hunt down an attendant to open the locker, lucky I've down that before and knew the ropes.
Took us a good extra 30 some mins just to put away our st. clothing.
( When I am alone I don't even bother with a locker, just don't bring any extra cash with me or anything of value)
After all that there were no empty lounge chairs, talk about packing the people in, don't even have enough chairs for all.
I didn't mind since I was not there to sit but my cousin and his wife would of enjoyed it more if they could lounge, she didn't even go into the water, only showered off once to cool off.
I tired to be a good host and offered to watch his camera while they enjoyed the spa together, no she didn't want to go in.
Then I asked if she could swim or not, yes she could.
I was trying to even get her to go with me to a thermal area and just sit in the warm water, no she wasn't interested.
It was odd , oh well, I was able to swim my self half to death since they were happy to just relax and look around.
I bought a round of drinks, 2 beers and one small bottle of water, was somewhere around 3,000F just for that.
Should of picked up some beers cold from Tesco and just snuck them in.
Gosh they are making a killing on day sap tourists there. ( meant to write spa but yes, guess we were saps)
Finally we scored 3 lounge chairs but we were about to leave by then.
Grand total was around 17,400 for 3 hours of spa time...
Not going there again any time soon unless I have visitors.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

I was gathering my thoughts here , about to write my friend.
It's complicated as much in life is.
He is in his 30's now, believe me she and her husband his step-dad have spent tons of money on his treatments. His last girlfriend was a counselor at his last rehab center in Ca.
My friend is in HI but her son is now in Ca where his sister now lives.
They fly to Ca often to check on him.
Her first husband killed himself at home and I believe this is the child who found the body in the morning.
My friend is blessed with a great second husband but still this has to be allot of undo stress on them. Her husband is around 70 and I am sure he doesn't need this sort of pressure......
On the outside my friend looks like she has a sweet life, 2 homes in Hawaii, a new husband who was a lawyer , a boy who is a doctor and lives in a beautiful place, one never really knows what someone is going through the outside appearances.

Sounds like a traumatic upbringing for which he's suffering now.   It's one of those things that perhaps he'll be unstable for the rest of his life.  No easy answers there.  Not much else to say.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

Just wrote my friend, hard to not be patronizing and also be supportive.

I know they are trying their best , her husband has paid for all these pricey treatments centers where he lives full time.

On the lighter note, was Aqua world worth the cost and wait times? It looks like a fun place but if over crowded that's a kill joy for me.....
It was something like 4,800  each to get in but it was so crowded it was a kill joy in some ways.
paid then were told to walk around outside the building to another entrance   to get a locker because the new side was full.
.....
I bought a round of drinks, 2 beers and one small bottle of water, was somewhere around 3,000F just for that.
Should of picked up some beers cold from Tesco and just snuck them in.
Gosh they are making a killing on day sap tourists there. ( meant to write spa but yes, guess we were saps)
Finally we scored 3 lounge chairs but we were about to leave by then.
Grand total was around 17,400 for 3 hours of spa time...
Not going there again any time soon unless I have visitors.

We were there at Aquaworld with 2 adults and 5 kids.  Kids up to the age of 14 cost about 3K HUF and adults a bit more like 3.5K HUF.  That's for a 3h ticket.   The problem with a ticket of that length is that it's all queueing.  We only managed about 3 or 4 rides on the slides each as each one needs 10 minutes queueing for a 20s "thrill".  Drinks are fairly pricey - a long coffee is about 450 HUF.  We've been there when there have been no queues at all - like mid-week during the day when everyone is at work. It's OK then. Basically avoid weekends.

We're going to Annagora in Balatonfured soon.   Forget how much that is but it's not cheap at all but then again, it is mostly outside and is well maintained.   We always go there when we go to Balaton.

The one I won't go to any more is Aquarena near Mogyorod.  Last time we went, I got a stomach bug and a Fluffyette got an ear infection.

fluffy2560 wrote:

AverageMan trumps PrettyGoodMan!  Yay!

Reminds me of the Ballad of Irving

Irving.
Big, fat Irving.
Big sissy Irving.
The hundred and forty-second fastest gun in the West.

A hundred and forty-one could draw faster than he,
But Irving was looking for one forty-three.
Walked into Sol's Saloon like a man insane,
And ordered three fingers of two cents plain.

Irving.
Big, fat Irving.
Big sport Irving.
The hundred and forty-second fastest gun in the West.


To listen to the song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxUo781x34s

fluffy2560 wrote:

Next Marvel hero (average) movie!

its been done :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_Men

klsallee wrote:

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fluffy2560 wrote:

Next Marvel hero (average) movie!

its been done :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_Men

But they weren't really average.  They were marginalised disenfranchised somewhat super hero'ish types.

What is required is Hollywood's idea......2.4 kids, suburban home with mortgage, a mini van, a Labrador doggie, improbably attractive nurse wife and a dull grey suited job in insurance.

But what's the superpower?  Stability Man? Family Man? Ability to fill in a form at lightning speed?  BureaucracyMan?

Old Dr. Demento, been so long ago. Used to listen to him all the time many years ago.

fluffy2560 wrote:

klsallee wrote:

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fluffy2560 wrote:

Next Marvel hero (average) movie!

its been done :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_Men

But they weren't really average.  They were marginalised disenfranchised somewhat super hero'ish types.

What is required is Hollywood's idea......2.4 kids, suburban home with mortgage, a mini van, a Labrador doggie, improbably attractive nurse wife and a dull grey suited job in insurance.

But what's the superpower?  Stability Man? Family Man? Ability to fill in a form at lightning speed?  BureaucracyMan?

That's funny but also true, it's harder to go to work 9 to 5 to support a family then to jump off buildings in a single bound.
My dad couldn't hack it, just slacked off with a little push from my mom that is.
My step-dad we didn't always take seriously but he was a super hero.
Who at age 28 would marry a divorced 40 year old women with 4 kids, two of them teenagers?
He did that, even gave my older sister her big white wedding.
He was big enough to ask my father to walk her down the aisle and didn't try to run the show and take credit for anything.

Paid for all our dental work and clothing for years and years.In exchange he got allot of talk back...

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

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My step-dad we didn't always take seriously but he was a super hero.
Who at age 28 would marry a divorced 40 year old women with 4 kids, two of them teenagers?
He did that, even gave my older sister her big white wedding.
He was big enough to ask my father to walk her down the aisle and didn't try to run the show and take credit for anything.

Paid for all our dental work and clothing for years and years.In exchange he got allot of talk back...

Even over time and space, I'm shading my eyes from the glare of his halo!

He sounds like he was quite a fella!

Thanks, had that told Irish temper at times but in all honesty we had it coming most times.

fluffy2560 wrote:

What is required is Hollywood's idea......2.4 kids, suburban home with mortgage, a mini van, a Labrador doggie, improbably attractive nurse wife and a dull grey suited job in insurance.

You are just describing the super hero's alter ego to hide the fact they are a super hero. Thus, every super hero is average to hide the fact they are a super hero. Well, except Batman. The rich ****. Or Ironman. Or... darn, what was my point?

Oh, yes: Yet, all that does not mean their super powers are average or not.

And that has been done too. In the The Incredibles  :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R8GtrKtrZ4.

I believe many of us have allot more power then we know we have.
Living under the spell of western society, going to public schools and being part of the ,"system" has pretty much alienated us from our true potential.
We are more caught up with the material world then in touch with our spiritual side.
Hippie me... going off again!
One thing we all could use more of is time alone in nature to get grounded again. We all need our own little Walden Pond.

Speaking of spiritual things... My oldest sister I mentioned was needing some dental work and I asked her to come to Hungary and we would find her a fix.
Well,with all she has going on back home, job, pets etc., She declined our offer and looked into going to the dental school in Minn.
She needs 3 teeth worked on from a crown to one filling and another treatment .
At the school they will charge her $1,044 dollars.
She belongs to some church in her area, and suppose she let it be known she could use some help with the bill, she is 70 and only works part time now and already is over extended.
Well, I am surprised that her church is doing what real churches should be doing for their members. They gave her $1000. towards her dental bill.
Last year at Christmas they gave her another $1,000. for other bills.
I have to say good on them!
This I believe is how real community should behave.
Help those in need if you can afford to.
Not rely on the gov. for everything.

Enjoying  this little break with the rain today, should be heating up this week again.
I noticed that on this date last year it was around 95F in Hungary and super humid, I'll take today's rainy weather over that any day.

Noticed Japan is suffering through a record heat wave right now.
What is going on in Japan? One horrible event after another over there lately.
Was really concerned when they had those floods a few weeks back, luckily my son's in-laws home was not effected but the flood channel behind their home was nearly overflowing.
Their home is built on higher ground.
I wonder sometimes if it's natural weather or man made?
One big experiment and they just happened to pick Japan .
I know in the 1800's downtown Budapest was flooded, people were going up the streets on boats.
Science was not playing weather man back then so perhaps all these events in Japan are natural .
This summer here in Hungary though has been more cool then the past few summers if my memory serves me.

klsallee wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

What is required is Hollywood's idea......2.4 kids, suburban home with mortgage, a mini van, a Labrador doggie, improbably attractive nurse wife and a dull grey suited job in insurance.

You are just describing the super hero's alter ego to hide the fact they are a super hero. Thus, every super hero is average to hide the fact they are a super hero. Well, except Batman. The rich ****. Or Ironman. Or... darn, what was my point?

Oh, yes: Yet, all that does not mean their super powers are average or not.

And that has been done too. In the The Incredibles  :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R8GtrKtrZ4.

Hmmm....not quite where I was going but I appreciate the logic.  I was thinking reversing that, i.e. being average was the superpower rather than having a hidden other power in their alter-ego.  Hence BureaucracyMan etc.

But how can an average person be a superhero? Maybe for small children, the average parent is a of course, a superhero, even a God although they wouldn't frame it that way.

Thought about seeing the Incredibles 2 but there's an advert running on UK radio for the movie and the woman (Holly Hunter) who plays Elastigirl has a voice which grates horribly on my ears.  So that one will be a total miss.  Actually, I've seen a few movies with Holly Hunter in and I've decided that she needs elocution, diction or some kind of voice lessons (yes, I know she's partially deaf).  Best avoided.

Oh, and it's raining.

fluffy2560 wrote:

the woman (Holly Hunter) who plays Elastigirl has a voice which grates horribly on my ears

I thought her voice was perfect in Raising Arizona.

"Turn to the right!"

"We got a child now! Everything chaaaanged!".

It still cracks me up.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoXJKArYi1g

klsallee wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

the woman (Holly Hunter) who plays Elastigirl has a voice which grates horribly on my ears

I thought her voice was perfect in Raising Arizona.

"Turn to the right!"

"We got a child now! Everything chaaaanged!".

It still cracks me up.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoXJKArYi1g

Yes, seen that movie years ago but sorry, her voice does nothing.  She doesn't enunciate properly.  She needs to move her lips and form the words properly or maybe her jaw doesn't work. It's like she's got something else in her mouth like a gobstopper (US:jawbreaker?) or something.  Like nails down a blackboard....arrgghhh.

You can see how old that movie is by the amount of hair Nicholas Cage has.  It's the same with Bruce Willis.  Or if anyone uses a mobile (US: cell) phone.

Stopped raining.  Now really humid. Sun trying to come out.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

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Speaking of spiritual things... My oldest sister I mentioned was needing some dental work and I asked her to come to Hungary and we would find her a fix.
Well,with all she has going on back home, job, pets etc., She declined our offer and looked into going to the dental school in Minn.
She needs 3 teeth worked on from a crown to one filling and another treatment .
At the school they will charge her $1,044 dollars.
She belongs to some church in her area, and suppose she let it be known she could use some help with the bill, she is 70 and only works part time now and already is over extended.
Well, I am surprised that her church is doing what real churches should be doing for their members. They gave her $1000. towards her dental bill.
Last year at Christmas they gave her another $1,000. for other bills.
I have to say good on them!
This I believe is how real community should behave.
Help those in need if you can afford to.
Not rely on the gov. for everything....

$1000 for minor dental work seems borderline expensive compared to here but factoring in the travel,  insurance and all the rest of it then probably better to do it at home.  If it was $5K then maybe worth coming into Budapest.

But nice of the church to chip in.    Not that I'm comparing but that's what they do in Africa - the church is a substitute for help from the government.   In a way it's nice but on the other hand,  universal health care delivered properly would be a lot better.

One of Mrs Fluffy's friends is in hospital with a very serious life threatening infection and Mrs Fluffy was there yesterday to visit.  As reported to me, visually, it's very run down at Janos Korhaz but the treatment  and skills are - apparently - first class.  Icing on the top - cost of treatment, $0.

fluffy2560 wrote:

klsallee wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

the woman (Holly Hunter) who plays Elastigirl has a voice which grates horribly on my ears

I thought her voice was perfect in Raising Arizona.

"Turn to the right!"

"We got a child now! Everything chaaaanged!".

It still cracks me up.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoXJKArYi1g

Yes, seen that movie years ago but sorry, her voice does nothing.  She doesn't enunciate properly.  She needs to move her lips and form the words properly or maybe her jaw doesn't work. It's like she's got something else in her mouth like a gobstopper (US:jawbreaker?) or something.  Like nails down a blackboard....arrgghhh.

You can see how old that movie is by the amount of hair Nicholas Cage has.  It's the same with Bruce Willis.  Or if anyone uses a mobile (US: cell) phone.

Stopped raining.  Now really humid. Sun trying to come out.

Sorry, I may of made a mistake by washing all the windows today, that always brings rain.
At least we didn't wash the car today!
Humid is the worst, I sometimes do miss the dry heat of the US SW.
You never sweat, just dry up and pass out without a drop of sweat on the brow.
I always traveled in the SW with a half gallon of water in the car, even just to the local market.

Raising Arizona was a all time classic, love that movie.
Side note about Bruce Willis:
My sister saw he and Demi out dancing way back before they were known, he had just started on the show Moonlighting.
She observed them,said Demi was totally mental, everytime Bruce asked anyone else to dance she threw a tizzy fit... Sounds like her.
Liza Minnelli, was a space case too.
Sister's friend would go to homes and do hair, he was told by one of his clients that he had a house party once and Liza came.
She was so dumb that she pulled a security cord that went directly to the LAPD.
This was way back before  alarm systems were installed in homes.
She pulled the cord while saying,"What's this for"?
Yes, the cops showed up , told it was a false alarm but still, how lame.
I saw Liza live in the 70's, she really gave a fantastic show and dance, some people should stick to their one talent.
I really hate it now when so called, "stars" chime in with their 2 cents of political ideas, most couldn't get dressed by themselves, why should we take advice from them?

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

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Sorry, I may of made a mistake by washing all the windows today, that always brings rain.
At least we didn't wash the car today!
Humid is the worst, I sometimes do miss the dry heat of the US SW.
You never sweat, just dry up and pass out without a drop of sweat on the brow.
I always traveled in the SW with a half gallon of water in the car, even just to the local market.
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She observed them,said Demi was totally mental, everytime Bruce asked anyone else to dance she threw a tizzy fit... Sounds like her.
Liza Minnelli, was a space case too.
Sister's friend would go to homes and do hair, he was told by one of his clients that he had a house party once and Liza came.
She was so dumb that she pulled a security cord that went directly to the LAPD.
This was way back before  alarm systems were installed in homes.
She pulled the cord while saying,"What's this for"?
Yes, the cops showed up , told it was a false alarm but still, how lame.
I saw Liza live in the 70's, she really gave a fantastic show and dance, some people should stick to their one talent.
I really hate it now when so called, "stars" chime in with their 2 cents of political ideas, most couldn't get dressed by themselves, why should we take advice from them?

Demi's nickname I believe was "Gimme Moore".  She always wanted more cash.  Bruce I believe is entirely more reasonable and apparently not self-conscious about his hair (or lack of it). 

As for political advice, Pfff.....same as rock star "economists" like Bono.  And as if anyone wants Roseanne Barr to involve herself in any political process?  I had to laugh about her excuse for stupid statements being down to medication to which the manufacturer Sanofi said "racism is not one of the known side effects".  Gimme five, Sanofi.   

But it's not like we haven't been here before - reality TV, Hollywood people as "politicians" - Ronald "Bonzo" Ray-gun.  But it's all deja-vu.

I don't know about Liza Minnelli but I was very surprised about Rene Zwelleger.  In an interview I saw, she almost seemed like she couldn't string two words together.  I thought she was really talented.

Then I saw her in a movie called Cold Mountain with  Nicole Kidman in like 1850 or something and she was supposed to sound strong and resourceful even if she was uneducated. Bit like other movies she's been in and been a bit dimwitted, e.g. Bridget Jones.  Then I realised she seemed like she was mostly just being herself in every film she's in.   And she's an Oscar winner!  One trick pony! Crazy!

If you'd washed the car, it would have rained all week.  I've been meaning to wash my car for 2 weeks but everytime I think about it, it rains.

But speaking of these suspicious coincidences, Mrs Fluffy and I have a thing at the moment where for some reason, we've noticed that every time I'm expected to go somewhere for work and the country name or capital city begins with M, something happens and it won't happen.  Just a weird coincidence. Maybe it  just means I won't be sucked further into the Matrix.

fluffy2560 wrote:

Like nails down a blackboard....arrgghhh.

You have very high standards.

Not a critique. Admiration. I appreciate high standards. 

But sadly, I can not raise the challenge today. Today my standards are..... average. 

Try me tomorrow. After all, "tomorrow is another day" ~ Scarlett O'Hara -- Gone With the Wind (using a quote since I don't feel terribly original today..... )