Should I kidnap my wife? (state of vaccines in VN)

gobot wrote:

Kidnapping my wife from her family looking like an option. 

It wouldn't be kidnap with her consent.  She may have a problem taking a leave of absence from her job for a couple years but you probably could sweet-talk her into it.

gobot wrote:

Grrr, looking even grimmer. I'm not worried about getting sick, it is the borders. If I go I can't come back.

Jan 31 Toitre Vietnamese version

1. AstraZeneca deal for 30 million doses (@2 doses each for 15 million people) on track, for this YEAR. Starts February.

2. Novavax may begin manufacturing vaccine in-and-for Vietnam by mid-year. How many doses?

3. City of Hai Phong is hustling to buy vaccine for their 2 million residents. Way to go Hai Phong! 

Jan 27 Toitre Vietnamese version quoting Guardian

4. Guardian forecast for vaccination targets:

US, Israel, UK, EU       End of 2021  (SIN too I read somewhere)
Remaining developed countries    Mid 2022
Some group of developing countries  End 2022
Poorest 84 countries    2023

So Vietnam is sometime 2022? 12-24 months more? You know Vietnam will want to vaccinate everyone, even children, before opening borders.
How do I survive another year of travel fever? The walls of Vietnam are closing in. Kidnapping my wife from her family looking like an option. 

Nothing ventured... nothign gained... do it do it.. haha

Where are you now?

https://www.skyscanner.net/travel-restrictions

lists 125 countries that VNese can travel to with varying degrees of restrictions.

A VNese woman I know just mentioned that she passed her interview at the US embassy and will travel to her husband's or fiance's hometown next month.

Also, I  just talked with a guy who recently returned from Italy and went through quarantine. So,  some people are being allowed to enter.

Also, this guy is currently in quarantine in Sài Gòn  and has posted a thread here:

https://www.expat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=919482

My wife is still paranoid about this.  The closer we get to March/April the more hesitant to move to the US.  We have discussed lately that I may go ahead and her and her daughter follow "later".  Maybe sometime in the summer before the school year starts.

The vaccine rollout is moving slowly.  My mom turns 80 in April so she is on the list of people "over 75" to get the vaccine.  She doesn't even have a date yet as to when she can get it so who knows how long it will be for me to get it when I arrive.  I don't care if I get the vaccine but I know before long I'll need it because I am under the impression that the more available the vaccine the more likely countries and airlines are going to start requiring it for entry or travel.

I'm not worried about the virus but she is-for me.  She finally said that she isn't worried about the virus for her and daughter due to age.  She's only worried about me getting it.  So we just continue putting off the move.

Good day I am in quarantine here in vn and noticed your post
Since Jan 30 2020 I have been to the following places
Depart Hcmc Jan 30 2020
Los Angeles twice
Mexico
Seattle wa 3 times
Vancouver
Alaska
Maui Hawaii
Denver 4 times
Both coast in Florida
And now back in Saigon ( it’s a more beautiful name then HCMC)
The only place I ever fear is security lines and bathrooms
I believe as I did before situation awareness
Keep hand away from face, distance as much as practical
I have had 6 relatives with Covid ages 29-66
Oldest one had one day of discomfort
The rest very mild feeling like the flu
I was diagnosed years ago with loss of 75% lung capacity due to work environment.
We have one life   I choose to live mine
Go where you want just pay attention
Quarantine makes me ramble sorry
Not used to being locked up from Wyoming and open  spaces
Forgot I went their this year too !

SteinNebraska wrote:

The closer we get to March/April the more hesitant to move to the US.

I am sure you are aware that their immigrant visas are only good for six months from it's date of issue.  I expect there may be a way to have them extended but it is probably a major hassle.

gobot wrote:

So Vietnam is sometime 2022? 12-24 months more? You know Vietnam will want to vaccinate everyone, even children, before opening borders.

Although Vietnam generally is called a developing country, it certainly should be considered in the top tier when it comes to COVID-19 management.  I also have read (It may have been VN Express but I am not sure) that VN will soon import the Russian vaccine which is looking increasingly promising, regardless of how one feels about the politics.  I certainly wouldn't be surprised if Vietnam reaches safe levels of herd immunity based on vaccination before the US and many other developed countries.

THIGV wrote:

gobot wrote:

So Vietnam is sometime 2022? 12-24 months more? You know Vietnam will want to vaccinate everyone, even children, before opening borders.

Although Vietnam generally is called a developing country, it certainly should be considered in the top tier when it comes to COVID-19 management.  I also have read (It may have been VN Express but I am not sure) that VN will soon import the Russian vaccine which is looking increasingly promising, regardless of how one feels about the politics.  I certainly wouldn't be surprised if Vietnam reaches safe levels of herd immunity based on vaccination before the US and many other developed countries.

The difference between Viet Nam and developed countries is that it's citizens didn't jump up and down complaining about their human rights or contest what the govt asked them to do. I was shocked to see how many people in other countries made a song and dance about having to wear a damn mask.

THIGV wrote:

Although Vietnam generally is called a developing country, it certainly should be considered in the top tier when it comes to COVID-19 management.  I also have read that VN will soon import the Russian vaccine which is looking increasingly promising, regardless of how one feels about the politics.  I certainly wouldn't be surprised if Vietnam reaches safe levels of herd immunity based on vaccination before the US and many other developed countries.

colinoscapee wrote:

The difference between Viet Nam and developed countries is that it's citizens didn't jump up and down complaining about their human rights or contest what the govt asked them to do. I was shocked to see how many people in other countries made a song and dance about having to wear a damn mask.

May I share both of your comments in my blog?  It's a travel / life-in-VN blog, a private one with a limited number of readers, not open to everyone and his uncle.

Ciambella wrote:

THIGV wrote:

Although Vietnam generally is called a developing country, it certainly should be considered in the top tier when it comes to COVID-19 management.  I also have read that VN will soon import the Russian vaccine which is looking increasingly promising, regardless of how one feels about the politics.  I certainly wouldn't be surprised if Vietnam reaches safe levels of herd immunity based on vaccination before the US and many other developed countries.

colinoscapee wrote:

The difference between Viet Nam and developed countries is that it's citizens didn't jump up and down complaining about their human rights or contest what the govt asked them to do. I was shocked to see how many people in other countries made a song and dance about having to wear a damn mask.

May I share both of your comments in my blog?  It's a travel / life-in-VN blog, a private one with a limited number of readers, not open to everyone and his uncle.

Sure. I will look forward to the royalty checks,lol.

colinoscapee wrote:

Ciambella wrote:

May I share both of your comments in my blog?.

Sure. I will look forward to the royalty checks,lol.

Ditto 

Mask mouth is a problem, but mostly for people who don't own or use a toothbrush.
I clean my teeth more often than before, and that looks after that. I also keep a bottle of my favourite mouthwash in the car - Never hurts.

The bright side is I feel fresher than ever, so I think I'll stay with the increased number of brushings, even after the covid mess is over.

https://www.colgate.com/en-us/oral-heal … mask-mouth

It would be lovely if we could avoid posting misinformation, conspiracy rubbish, and downright lies.

THIGV wrote:

SteinNebraska wrote:

The closer we get to March/April the more hesitant to move to the US.

I am sure you are aware that their immigrant visas are only good for six months from it's date of issue.  I expect there may be a way to have them extended but it is probably a major hassle.

It is a hassle. Need to do medical exams again - $270 and $240 respectively,  then pay $225 each to get new visas.  We are going to talk with the consulate after TET.  It still isn't a guarantee.   They don't have to reissue but suspect they will due to COVID. Current visas expire April 19.

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