cost of penalties for being late to pay immigration.

@pnwcyclist If you overstay over a year, they could lock a person up at the BI Graybar Hotel in Taguig and then deport and blacklist. Or they might let you pay and stay. Depends.

@FindlayMacD   Thanks. i actually think thats pretty accurate. ive experienced that attitude before. in fact the immigration officer was downright rude and insulting, i paid the fee and he actually seemed disappointed, as if he were hoping to make an example out of me and took that away from him. So, yes..i think attitude has a lot to do with it. Im not looking for exact cost, as i said, only a reasonable approximation

@danfinn my overstay happened twice, neither time even came close to a year...one was about 3 months..the other was 7. Each time it was because my online card account having been hacked and all the money in it, stolen. But i already know they're not interested in hearing about it. So i just paid it.  The last time I dealt with a very rude guy, so...it was a tough day. But that doesn't bother me, ive dealt with rude, obnoxious people all my life. i only posted my question so i  could get as close an approximation as possible so i can be at least a little sure I'll bring enough with me to immigration, and would be reasonably sure i could cover the cost without bringing everything i got... because iv ive learned ANYTHING here in the 2 years ive been here  it's this: you DON'T flash your money, and you NEVER, EVER, even hint, to anyone, what you may or may not be carrying.

@danfinn my overstay happened twice, neither time even came close to a year...one was about 3 months..the other was 7. Each time it was because my online card account having been hacked and all the money in it, stolen. But i already know they're not interested in hearing about it. So i just paid it.  The last time I dealt with a very rude guy, so...it was a tough day. But that doesn't bother me, ive dealt with rude, obnoxious people all my life. i only posted my question so i  could get as close an approximation as possible so i can be at least a little sure I'll bring enough with me to immigration, and would be reasonably sure i could cover the cost without bringing everything i got... because iv ive learned ANYTHING here in the 2 years ive been here  it's this: you DON'T flash your money, and you NEVER, EVER, even hint, to anyone, what you may or may not be carrying.

     But as far as immigration goes, im only asking for an approximation, doesn't need to be exact.  only concerned that ill bring enough with me, and whatever attitudes i deal with that day won't, for what ever"bad mood" reason he or she might have, won't decide to just deport me regardless.

     Because i am well aware of the corruption aspect, and the sometimes nasty attitude aspect, I'll just settle for the "approximate cost" aspect, and see what happens.

    Thanks for your comment though. i appreciate your imput

- @kenw8213

Taking your Filipina wife and child to the BI office when you go in for your extension can be good for your image because they’re really into family ties here, so even though your late on your renewals, at least you have a nice family here in the Philippines

@onefogarty good advice, but im not married, nor do i have any children. i am living with someone with eventual plans to marry, but as of right now, not married.

A continuing theme by some posters is dealing with rude BI employees. The reason is because your a "Farang" and they do it because they can.

I never had that problem as I took my Stepson to BI to do my bidding for me, while I sat down and became a people watcher.

- @Enzyte Bob

Sounds good….whenever I take my Filipina wife and son to immigration,I get treated much nicer. Sad, but true.

@Enzyte Bob yeah, i mentioned only to express what i already know to be the truth. they are rude...thats my observation. Doesn't matter if "they can" or not...i only mentioned it as part of the attitude they have that  i know play a part in, not only how tense the situation can become, but, depending on the level of corruption present at that moment, how much ill end up paying. All i asked this forum was a general idea of how much it "might" cost, so i could at least be as prepared as possible. Not an exact amount, because i know thats impossible...just an approximation, a realistic one.

@onefogarty good advice, but im not married, nor do i have any children. i am living with someone with eventual plans to marry, but as of right now, not married.

- @kenw8213

No need to be married brother, just bring your Filipina with you

@onefogarty  agsin..good advice. you know, she does come with me, but since this covid thin, and that whole " keep a distance thing" happened, the office here in Davao ( which has limited seats available to begin with) has it set up so maybe 5 people at one time can cone in, the rest stay outside, which is where she stays...so, even though we both go together, i end up dealing with the agent on my own, and ive gone outside to ask her to come in, but the security outside doesn't allow it, never has for me, anyway. So i always get stuck doing it alone. But, that's a great idea. i always bring someone with me, either my lady or one of her kids, so ill just have to make sure i can have them with me at the window.

@onefogarty  agsin..good advice. you know, she does come with me, but since this covid thin, and that whole " keep a distance thing" happened, the office here in Davao ( which has limited seats available to begin with) has it set up so maybe 5 people at one time can cone in, the rest stay outside, which is where she stays...so, even though we both go together, i end up dealing with the agent on my own, and ive gone outside to ask her to come in, but the security outside doesn't allow it, never has for me, anyway. So i always get stuck doing it alone. But, that's a great idea. i always bring someone with me, either my lady or one of her kids, so ill just have to make sure i can have them with me at the window.

- @kenw8213

I feel your frustration, and wish you the best success going forward 😊

Personally, if the people at the BI gave me a hard time, or, if they copped an attitude, I wouldn't give them a penny of my $, I would just "take" the deportation! They likely have never "messed" with a Texan before.

- @Harbred6051

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Evidently A Texan never messed with BI (Poncho Villa's) before. BI will pay your airfare back to the Alamo.

@onefogarty thank you very much...it IS frustrating. But im not ready to give up. thats why i try to ask questions so I'm better prepared. thank you gor your input and advice.. i found it insightful and helpful. So far ive found just about all responses very helpful. Have a great day! 👍

@Enzyte Bob i also believe being as respectful as possible goes a long way to easing the situation, rather than just going in, mouth blazing, damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead. If nothing else, it'll mean i wont personally be adding to a situation that could potentially develop into something far worse. Maybe that wont work all the time, but i think its a whole lot better than just putting some guy ( or girl) with a sour attitude on blast thinking you'll get a couple of "feel good" shots in your way out, because, from what i seen in other examples, that just doesn't happen. diplomacy and a polite respect, at least on the surface, goes a long way ( most of the time). from making a situation go from bad to worse. But "copping an attitude" l, seems [link under review], is a garunteed " bad to worse day". Id like to avoid that if i can. 😁

@FindlayMacD   Thanks. i actually think thats pretty accurate. ive experienced that attitude before. in fact the immigration officer was downright rude and insulting, i paid the fee and he actually seemed disappointed, as if he were hoping to make an example out of me and took that away from him.

- @kenw8213

Rude from start?   

@coach53 right from the beginning. But his disposition DID seem to sour a little later. Maybe he WAS expecting one, who knows? Not in my nature to offer something you don't ask for, or imply that i should give. Bribes are dangerous and illegal, but, in my view, its also dangerous...IF said bribe were to.work, what makes anyone think it wouldn't be expected from that moment on? I won't encourage that.

@kenw8213 and not only that, as far as i know, theres also a period of time in which. allowed to file for a reconsideration

@kenw8213

But, i also haven't been deliquent for a year, either. itll be 7 months when i go,

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I think it wold be best to cop a plea, telling them the various lockdowns prevented travel and then you had some Covid related problems.

@kenw8213  my opinion any foreigners including myself.  Knowingly they are overstayed and thinking of reasons to give imagination are those who are  just making  Harder for foreigners who follow the Rules. Im sure in time Philippines will make it Harder for all foreigners to get extentions. And pay more in the long run.

@coach53 Seriously, never do that. Not anymore. They stopped that and it could turn on you.

@coach53 Seriously, never do that. Not anymore. They stopped that and it could turn on you.

- @danfinn

Yes I knew bribing being illegal.  I have never paid any bribes. PERHAPS thats why officials have been extreemly slow at handling our business documents   

@kenw8213 looks like i asked the wrong question. i "thought" i was asking if anyone had any idea ( approximately) what a 7 month penalty might look like. i also thought id made it clear i wasnt looking for a specific, agreed upon amount, since ( as ive already stated) i already know that there really isnt one. I didn't realize that the way in which i asked my question would inply to anyone on this thread that i was: 1. Looking for a solid, unshakable quote as regarding price. 2. looking for conversation regarding bribes or any other illegal activity that is simply beyond the scope of what i would do, no matter where i am, 3. looking for impressions of jail, or even stories regarding deportation that it seems everyone has.

@kenw8213 "The penalty fees for overstaying tourist visa is approximately PHP4,000 per month."  Online source (google).