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Trump & Prabowo - the dream ticket?

Lotus Eater

As all Indonesian expats should know by now President Prabono Subianto was inaugurated as President of the Republic back in October.


I have and always do take politics at arms length and continue to do so albeit with a few exceptions. The exceptions being the leaders of their respective parties who find themselves at the top of thier countries political tree.


It is important for expats (who may be cogniscent already) to know some political background to their adopted homes new President.


Mr Prabono has ahem, to use a word pinched from the London Met “Form”. Indonesia is a relatively young democracy that came into being in 1998. Hitherto it was run by the dictator Suharto. Mr Prabowo was a general under the regime who held public office. He was married to Suharto’s daughter: ‘It’s not what but who you know’ goes the accurate refrain especially in Asian political circles. Mr Subianto’s favourite ‘dress’ is military attire but at the run up to the last election adopted the ‘casual’ look and appeared in civvies. Does a Leopard ever change its spots? Well it appears not by recent events.


On October 25th over a hundred members of the new cabinet were summoned to the Indonesian military academy (where Mr Prabono graduated from in 1974) in the Volcanic foothills of Java. All were instructed to wear military fatigues which included the urbane finance minister Sri Mulyani Indrawati, one of five women in the cabinet.


You may ask what is the connection with Mr T? On 29th of October a high profile opponent of Prabowo, Thomas Lembong a former banker, was arrested on what some political commentators alluded to as ‘arcane’ charges. Essentially Mr Lembong is an advocate for freer trade in a protectionist country and a lowering of tarrifs, an area anathema to the populist Mr T.


It is on public record (Forum Police please note) that the new President, who recently visited the States was banned from entering the country for 20 years regarding the unexplaned disapperance of a dozen political activists during the Suharto era. Now he is President ‘real politic’ has welcomed him back into Uncle Sam’s arms.


Some would say that Mr Prabowo has never fully embraced the democracy that followed the fall of his father-in-law. The above does not bode well for the country. Just imagine when Mr T is inaugurated. There will be champagne corks popping and canapés in abundance at the American embassy in Menteng just around the corner from where I am staying. Wonder if I can bum an invite? Maybe not.

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Fred

Much as people are people and never quite change, Indonesia is in the middle of a geopolitical battle between the US and China.

That leaves my country in need of a strong president who has the mindset to deal with far more powerful nations, one of which has a history of violence against many countries.

Add that same country overthrowing several democratic governments for its own ends, and that doubles the need for a man like President Prabowo.

I am aware of his history as a US trained soldier who fought in the US funded war in Tim Tim, but I'm also aware of Indonesia's needs as of today.

Given I believe the US (using the NED and USAID - CIA funded) tried interfering in the presidential ellection to get their puppy into power, and we have all the more reasons to have a strong minded man in charge.

I've been looking at his strategy, and I believe he has it 100% correct.

I voted for Prabowo, and I think I got it right.

However, time will tell.


Have a free hint - Read the news and find out what isn't mentioned - The truth is usually there.

Indonesia needs a FARA law to help weed these people out.

Lotus Eater

@Fred


I suppose when you have adopted another country and taken full citizenship it helps to occasionally wear rose tinted ( in Prabowo’s case dark) spectacles.

Fred

@Fred
I suppose when you have adopted another country and taken full citizenship it helps to occasionally wear rose tinted ( in Prabowo’s case dark) spectacles. - @Lotus Eater

Not rose tinted, or darkened to block out history, more with realism in these 'interesting' times.

Indonesia needs someone strong at the helm. That's why I didn't vote for Ganjar - I think he's a decent chap, but he didn't come over as strong in the debates.

I looked at the other candidate, but saw a lot I wasn't too keen on.

Lotus Eater

@Fred

Indonesia needs someone strong at the helm.


You mean someone like Trump, a convicted criminal? Mind you nobody disappeared on his watch did they 🙄

Fred

@Fred
Indonesia needs someone strong at the helm.
You mean someone like Trump, a convicted criminal? Mind you nobody disappeared on his watch did they 🙄 - @Lotus Eater

I could be wrong, but I don't believe president Prabowo has ever been convicted of any crime.

Can you enlighten me to one?

Lotus Eater

@Fred
Indonesia needs someone strong at the helm.
You mean someone like Trump, a convicted criminal? Mind you nobody disappeared on his watch did they 🙄 - @Lotus Eater
I could be wrong, but I don't believe president Prabowo has ever been convicted of any crime.
Can you enlighten me to one? - @Fred

I'm not going to split hairs with you Fred. Suffice to say US officials had the guy down as a future leader back in the eighties. In fact they even recruited him to attend their leadership schools. So one has to ask why he was subsequently made persona non grata stateside.

Fred

@Fred
Indonesia needs someone strong at the helm.
You mean someone like Trump, a convicted criminal? Mind you nobody disappeared on his watch did they 🙄 - @Lotus Eater
I could be wrong, but I don't believe president Prabowo has ever been convicted of any crime.
Can you enlighten me to one? - @Fred
I'm not going to split hairs with you Fred. Suffice to say US officials had the guy down as a future leader back in the eighties. In fact they even recruited him to attend their leadership schools. So one has to ask why he was subsequently made persona non grata stateside. - @Lotus Eater


Does 'splitting hairs' mean you can't show any proof of any convictions?

You need to ask? How strange.

I suggest you read up a little and all will be clear, just as the reasons he no longer holds that status will become.


Look up Strait of Malacca and all will be clear - well it will be if you find out about Tindal.

Fred

As a note - It's pretty elementary stuff. All you need to do is stop reading the Daily Mail, learn a little about geography, geopolitics, then history. Start with those and you'll only be ten years behind me.


Here's a few more clues to get you started.

Iran

Russia

China

MRT

A few PT companies

Hary

Li

Photovoltaic

Tim Tim

India

Venezuela

France

There are plenty more to go at once you do your homework on the above.

Fred

I will be happy to help you out for a small fee.

I keep a UK account for you to transfer to as I still do a little consultancy work in that country.

I can give you a discount so you'll only have to pay 2,500 GBP/month.

I can build an online course for you but there is quite a lot of work in teaching someone with very limited abilities so I will require a 50% deposit of the year's tuition fees.

Lotus Eater

@Fred

Do you accept American ( ‘that will do nicely’) Express?

Fred

@Fred
Do you accept American ( ‘that will do nicely’) Express? - @Lotus Eater

I'm sure my bank will accept a transfer.