New Tourist overstay penalty from 8 Reais to 120 Reais ?!?!

It seems like my post above had its formatting messed up. I can't edit it.

I meant to say that it seems like you CAN'T deduct days from your next visit. Even though the law states that it is possible, it relies on an act from Federal Police that doesn't exist yet.

"conforme disciplinado em ato do dirigente máximo da Polícia Federal." w

Is there any way to pay the overstay fee before leaving the U.S. I'm wondering, Banco do Brazil is here in New York where I live now. Can I pay there ? I leave to Brazil soon and will be arriving late at night. Somebody help please thanks.

Hey folks, so I slightly overstayed in Brazil for 1 year and a half. Upon exiting the PF gave me a piece of paper saying that I had a fine of 10000 reais but that it wouldn't prevent me from returning. I don't need to pay the fine to return as a tourist, but only if I wanted to get married or work etc.

Has anybody else been told this? I don't want to return as a tourist then have to pay

Cheers

I know that's wrong, you won't be denied to return as a tourist but you will pay this fine at the airport before entering the country. Whoever told you this doesn't know how this new penalty works or maybe you misunderstood. Good luck! Everyone I've known to have illegally stayed has had to pay upon entering next time. Please respect the laws of Brazil and don't overstay your welcome next time.

The agent made an extra effort to make this clear to me. I repeated to him in Portuguese and he confirmed it. Though it didn't seem to line up with other people's experiences

EVERYTHING I've read and heard since the new regulations went into effect last November tells me that Craig's got it right, and you've been misinformed.
If you're challenged when you come back, then by all means, give the "But Your Colleague Told Me" defense a try - I'm sure you have better uses for R$10,000 than paying a fine.  But to be safe, also make sure you have the money on you and arrive on a weekday during business hours, so that your worst case scenario is being sent to the bank to pay the fine, and not being sent to the departure gate of the next flight home.

Hey my friend overstayed last year and wants to come back.  Only, hes Canadian and needs to get an e- visa to come to Brazil as a tourist.  Does he need to pay the fine before he applies for a tourist visa...somewhere in Canada?
Thanks in advanvce everybody!😊

Hey all,
Tudo bem?
Registered just to make a post as I found this thread closest to my case.

I had overstayed my intern visa by a month this Feb 2018 and upon departure told of new regulations and that my fine was 2400 reais instead of 240 as I had hoped. I left via Rio and signed a paper about the fine.

Last week I flew into Belém from Europe ready to pay the fine but the officer just made a 90 day stamp and let me go before I could even blink. Nothing popped up on his screen as he scanned my passport. I entered Brazil thua without paying a fine.

It was a short visit and now after 3 weeks I am flying back home again via Belém. What are the chances anyone asking me about the previous fine at the passport control upon me exitting the country? Can I just relax and consider myself lucky?

Muito obrigado por as respostas,
HatiHati

HatiHati,

I think you had a close call, but now you're home and dry.  Don't worry about it, and enjoy Brazil.

BrazilianGringo wrote:

theDutchman1 wrote:

Hi all,

I am replying to this thread since I am in the same boat as you all. I came to brazil on a student visa in August to finish my bachelor here in Brazil by doing an internship as an undergraduate programme. I finished in December and decided to overstay my visa for 70 days to enjoy the summer delights of Brazil. After all, paying 8,28 reais per day isn't much considering the costs of leaving the country and come back on a new tourist visa.

I learned through various sources that the 'multa' for overstaying went from 8,28 reais to 100 reais. I freaked out and went to find out solutions.

I studied the new 'lei do migração' and dicovered the loophole they made:
§ 2o  A multa atribuída por dia de atraso ou por excesso de permanência poderá ser convertida em redução equivalente do período de autorização de estada para o visto de visita, em caso de nova entrada no País.

This means that you don't have to pay a fine if you leave the country and re-enter on another visa (can be a tourist visa extension or, in my case, switching from a student visa to a tourist entrance (a tourist visa is not needed for NL residents)).

I decided to call the Policia Federal in Porto alegre and they confirmed on the phone that this is indeed true and this would be a way to avoid the fine. After that I went to the Policia Federal in Itajaí, the city I live currently, waited for three hours, and got attended by an intern than told me all this is not true and that I have to pay the fine anyways. He said that if he would give me the fine now, and not when I leave on 19th feb, I have 3 days to leave the country. I had the new law printed on paper and shove it under his nose and gave the guy a lecture about his own laws that he was obviously not known with.

He took my passport and the law papers to the back, he came back after a few minutes and apologized that I am indeed right and that I can go the border, leave brazil and re-enter on a tourist visa for 90 days minus the days that I am illegal. That would mean I would get around 44 days of tourist visa, and R$0,00 fine. (I am illegal since 12/12/2017)

Monday I am going the border and try my luck. Keep you guys updated...

Hey! I would love to know what happened!!! I am in the same situation. Please update, thank you!

Hi all!

Has anyone tried re-entering Brazil on a tourist visa for 90 days minus the days overstayed?

I have looked at the law and this seems to be a valid approach.  However, it would be comforting to a lot of people (including myself!!!) to get some feedback from someone who has actually tried this?

abthree wrote:

HatiHati,

I think you had a close call, but now you're home and dry.  Don't worry about it, and enjoy Brazil.

Thank you Abthree,

Just wanted to give an update that I left the country without any further hastle.

Best of luck to all!

So here is my dilema. I overstayed a long time, my process to marry my Brazilian husband took awhile and when we were finally married the law changed. So my question is.. i thought the fine was to be paid when leaving or re entering.. but they told me i have to pay 10,000 reais before they will process my permanent visa. Since when is it required to pay fine before being able to regularizar my status?

Since forever.  It's unfortunate that you misunderstood the law.
Someone on another thread suggested going to the Defensoria Pública (Public Defenders' Office) and requesting their help in getting the fine reduced, if you really don't have the resources to pay.  It's worth a try.

Hi Friends,
It is actually possible to try and reduce or cancel the fine for overstay, bearing in mind some details. Also, it has also been verified that there was an INCORRECT CALCULATION OF THE SURPASSING DAYS AND, THEREFORE, THE IMMIGRANT GOT CHARGED MORE THAN THE AMOUNT OF FINE DUE.

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Good  Morning,

Does anyone have any pointers on how to pay your overstay fine? I understand you must go the bank... Can I bring dollars and get them exchanged at the bank? Or should I bring reais?

Should I bring all the money in full, or do they have an option to withdraw from a machine with a credit card for example...?

Thank you, I only have a few hours at the airport so want to be prepared.

Does one have to pay when leaving or just returning to Brazil

I have overstayed my visa ....by 2 yrs....Do I pay the overstay when I leave or Pay when I return and how much.?

JenJean
Especially with time constraints, it would be well to arrive with the reais in hand.  You may be able to withdraw them from an ATM with a debit card; not sure about a credit card.  You could probably exchange another currency as well, but any complication, even an uncooperative ATM, will cost you precious time.

kaletek
They'll want you to pay before you leave; if you can't pay, they'll probably waive it until you return.  For an overstay that long, you should have maxed out under the old law, and owe a lot less than the current R$10,000.  That case will be easier to make now than when you return, which probably won't be for a year.

Thank you. I appropriate the help

Thank you, the problem is they never told me how much it would be when I left. I am expecting the worse, but thats a lot of reais to carry on my for my two flights.