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Nor American Nor British

Last activity 19 October 2011 by Meez

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Meez

Hi everyone,

As long as English is a universal Language ... I thought we should give it a second thought and more care.

When any one comes to Egypt, he or she will hear some similar words of his own country TWISTED into Arabic, and some of these are HAKARWIZ (=I shall cruise) and that here means: I SHALL HANG OUT WITH FRIENDS IN A TRIP ... OR ... RASTART el gehaz (I've RESTARTED the PC) ... OR ... JANTALA (=GENTLENESS) meaning : acting gentle with someone .. and some other twisted words like that exist but the problem that no one may find their real meaning or origin or even try .. We just blabber on not knowing the origin and making it easy for a foreigner to feel familiarity :))

Something weird too occurred to me, it's the way some people in Egypt think about their English; as known in the Arab world, American accent, grammar or words are common even though Arab's English curricula is British ... I noticed some weird things happening around, and i take the word CHARACTER for example; this word will never be heard right all around Egypt, even some educated persons won't utter it right either; you will hear it (KarAKTER) while it's (KArikta), I even heard a Professor says it so.

And also the word TAKEAWAY if you asked anyone about it he would say it's American ,of course according to his so-called common American, while it's British and their American is TAKEOUT.

Also the idiom TOUCH WOOD people here use it when someone envies them, thinking they're talking American; while the American phrase for it is KNOCK ON WOOD. so mixed cultures and understanding, isn't it?

And as mentioned above, the curricula are British, I found some people pronounce CLASS British and GLASS American.

I have a theory and a parameter to control pronunciation when learning, but I've found something weird too in American pronunciation like : MILITARY, CATEGORY, MERCENARY, INVENTORY and similar words with the same endings pronounced in Amercian with the stress on (ary, -ory) while a word like ELEMENTARY is pronounced like any other word ending in British ... No offence, The result here of a good parameter prefers British to American , and I believe so.

I hope the British curricula is not only taught in Egypt but also be the common exchanged accent.

Any way, it seems that Egypt has mixed words, cultures and accents to welcome much more expats :)

              Regards, Meez

don moe

Meez! Its really one of the best topics ever plus its funny :D I liked Hakarwiz :D

Good job bro :)

Mohamed

valibilic

Correct it is " Neither.... Nor...", so the title of the topic could be " Neither American, nor English".
Concerning the post, I agree that Egypt is a mixture of cultures, and people here are enough nice and tolerant, especially in Cairo. Alexandria is more traditional!
Also, I could say the post it s too long, I didn t have enough patience to read all!

Meez

Thanks Don Moe !!! I appreciate it!

Meez

Thanks Valibilic for reading and for your concern!

the oddity of the topic requires "Nor .. Nor"


what would you say about :


The boat came closer to the ship
But I nor spake nor stirred [Samuel Coleridge]

No haughty virtues stirred his peaceful mind,
Nor urged the priest to leave the flock behind; [George Crabbe]

and of course many more.... and even nowadays in Britain when you tell someone : "I've never been to Egypt." he says "Nor have I"

about PATIENCE .. If you told a fisherman you're out of patience, he would say PATIENCE gives you the fish. :)

                 Regards, Meez

don moe

Perfect reply

valibilic

Meez wrote:

Thanks Valibilic for reading and for your concern!


about PATIENCE .. If you told a fisherman you're out of patience, he would say PATIENCE gives you the fish. :)

                 Regards, Meez


I could get some fish from supermarket if what I want it s really some fish!:gloria

Meez

Thanks Don moe ... you're making me blush ... No one's perfect!

shoft talla3et el2otat el fatsana ezzai!


BTW, A fresh fish is better than the stale ones of the market. ;)

don moe

Ya kbeer heya dayman keda :D
Let's in english or we will be punished :P

alimirza

LOL ...nice one :D


Meez wrote:

Thanks Valibilic for reading and for your concern!

the oddity of the topic requires "Nor .. Nor"


what would you say about :


The boat came closer to the ship
But I nor spake nor stirred [Samuel Coleridge]

No haughty virtues stirred his peaceful mind,
Nor urged the priest to leave the flock behind; [George Crabbe]

and of course many more.... and even nowadays in Britain when you tell someone : "I've never been to Egypt." he says "Nor have I"

about PATIENCE .. If you told a fisherman you're out of patience, he would say PATIENCE gives you the fish. :)

                 Regards, Meez

Meez

Ok Don moe ...

I didn't know that but I will translate it if that makes no one angry.




Thanx Alimirza ... I'm glad you're sharing your time

MiaSayed

Meez, dude, you're funny!

When I started my job here and asked my boss whether she wanted my reports in British or in American, she just looked at me and said: "In English, of course."

Cheers

Meez

Hi Mia,

I'm not that funny, but if I made you smile that would be good ... in fact , you told us a good one :lol:...

semsema135

Meez wrote:

Thanks Valibilic for reading and for your concern!

the oddity of the topic requires "Nor .. Nor"


what would you say about :


The boat came closer to the ship
But I nor spake nor stirred [Samuel Coleridge]

No haughty virtues stirred his peaceful mind,
Nor urged the priest to leave the flock behind; [George Crabbe]

and of course many more.... and even nowadays in Britain when you tell someone : "I've never been to Egypt." he says "Nor have I"

about PATIENCE .. If you told a fisherman you're out of patience, he would say PATIENCE gives you the fish. :)

                 Regards, Meez


Well said, loved the fish part,ur rightt, nice reply man;):)

Meez

Thanks Semsema!

We should light a candle into the dark roads of life, as long as we can. :)

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