E2. Refusal

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9 years ago

Hi
I am new on this forum but found you by accident it seems like a great place with lots of advice.

This is my story have been living in Florida for 10 years running a successful landscaping business due to a personal problem this year had to come back after closing my business .

I came back in March 2016 and looked for another business found one and submitted new application September went to embassy in London and was questioned on my personal life not one question on the business after 20 minutes of this I was told the new business was marginal and was refused

I am now trying to get back on another e2 but it's really hard trying to figure out which way to go

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TominStuttgart Germany Expert

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9 years ago

I can only wonder what kind of personal questions they asked and what they should object to? One should not lie but be selective to spin things to sound like what they want to hear. Unfortunately, many Americans would rather hear that you like to read the bible and shoot guns but if you are a pot smoking, gay, hippy then they will not give you a visa.

Junebug 72 Member

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9 years ago

i think a lot of it is down to who you get on the day and what mood the officer is in as there have been been people who have gone for visa renewal and they've not got it

GuestPoster2204 Guest

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9 years ago

All this has nothing to do with pot-smoking gay hippies who like to read the bible and shoot guns. If you wanna help people with visas issues, don't post non-sense.

E2 Investor visas are targeted to foreign investors who wish to create or take over a business with a substantial investment and solid business plan that demonstrates a potential for success and strong potential for US citizens employment. By marginal, the officer wasn't convinced that the business fits the qualification for a E2 Investor visa. It doesn't mean that you can't rework your business plan and accounting projections and resubmit. You can hire the help of professionals (lawyers and CPAs), which is often what people do, to present a rock solid application.

They also refer to marginal as an insufficient monetary investment in order to insure a mid to long term success.

TominStuttgart Germany Expert

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9 years ago

English2Francais, the second part of your post is correct and informative, thanks for sharing that.

But I have to disagree with your first sentence. What I wrote is certainly NOT nonsense. Yes, there can often be very objective reasons for one to be denied a visa. One cannot ignore this and just assume it was personal.

But I stand by what I wrote; that personal attitudes or prejudices by immigration officials CAN often determine a decision. Everything else being equal, a person’s business plan or trustworthiness can often be seen in a different light according to ideology. And one cannot even condemn this out of hand because lots of things cannot be well judged just by looking at a list of criteria. Immigration, like law enforcement officers, learn to get a feel for a situation and all the more so after years of experience. Part of their qualification is having good judgement. But the downside is that one can become jaded and over-generalize.

Even for Americans entering the USA it can mean trouble at customs. The typical American is going to be returning from a 3 week trip to Europe to go back to his job as an accountant in suburbia. I often used to get something like this: How long have you been out of the States? 3 years. Where have you been in that time? Europe, Morocco, Thailand, Indonesia, Nepal and India. Where do you live? Officially nowhere. I travel around the world making street shows and have no home. What do you do for a living? I’m a professional clown. OK, smartass, get over there and strip for a search…

Yeah, I didn’t fit their profile of normalcy. My whole life style was a bunch of red flags for them. Yet I don’t blame them for seeing it that way. My tip to travelers is to stay truthful but to the best of your ability give them the answers they want to hear. Paint them a picture of plausibility that what you say, while unusual, is somehow legitimate.

And thus I recommend to anyone, citizen or immigrant, to think how you want to present yourself when entering the country or applying for a visa. Your appearance and lifestyle can be as much as a determining factor as your objective qualifications in whether you get accepted or not. Not that a good suit and a big smile will overcome not having needed documentation for example but it sure beats wearing worn out cloths and looking like a junkie if one wants to make a good impression.

GuestPoster2204 Guest

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9 years ago

TominStuttgart wrote:
How long have you been out of the States? 3 years.
Where have you been in that time? Europe, Morocco, Thailand, Indonesia, Nepal and India.
Where do you live? Officially nowhere. I travel around the world making street shows and have no home.
What do you do for a living? I’m a professional clown.
OK, smartass, get over there and strip for a search…

Alright, you gotta admit that would make a good movie skit.
I just recently came back from a trip to Europe with my girlfriend (who's native) and we often joke or laugh, even when going through customs. The big black dude CBP officer was awesome. He was rapping his shift when calling "next" and "welcome back". My personal experience with LEOs is that they usually can have a good sense of humor if you take it easy.

TominStuttgart Germany Expert

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9 years ago

Sure. Immigration or custom officials are just people. Some are happy and have humor, others not so much. I'm just saying that one never knows who you're going to get and what prejudices or recent personal problems they might have had. Thus, best to be on the safe side because many subjective factors can influence their decisions at times.

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9 years ago

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GuestPoster2204 Guest

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9 years ago

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David, can you tell me more about the eqoppa.com domain that is registered in Germany to Asaf Labes who, according to his online bio, started his career as a mentalist advisor for wealthy people?

All I'm saying is that, according to the chart of this forum that you should read before posting, you should advertise in the business section with clear and verifiable information about your legitimate business so maybe you can get some positive feedback. The discussion forum is not for advertising purpose and your post is too vague, and quite incredible in my opinion with such low investment for a E2 visa.

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TominStuttgart Germany Expert

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9 years ago

#11

Like English2francais mentioned this post doesn't really belong here and eqoppa.com is registered in Germany to a Asaf Labes. From a wiki profil (repeated on a few other sites as well) I found this about him: Asaf Labes has an International Executive MBA degree and majored in Marketing Management. Also, he holds a B.S.. in Mechanical Engineering, and B.Eng. in Automotive Engineering.
CareerEdit

Asaf Held various positions in several private companies in Israel and in Europe. He started his career as a mentalist advisor for wealthy people, and helping to close up deals for SMB. In additional to the above, Mr. Labes is a partner in one of the biggest car performance parts company in Germany. Asaf also served in several governmental projects, and was one of the first who did the research for finding an electric solution for cars.

But this site is now offline. Sounds pretty much like a scam to me. Revenue of 140,000 projected for the year creating profit of 10,000 a month! Also he mentions a ROI of 3 to 4 months, which makes no sense. Rate of investment is a percentage not a duration of time. One can only guess that he is suggesting that the initial investment would be paid back in only 3 - 4 months. Something that sounds too good to be true usually is. If it is legit then it should pass a careful scrutiny!

bluemoon1090 Member

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last year

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@TominStuttgart

Hello....what was the post you are referring to?? I cannot find it.

bluemoon1090 Member

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last year

#13

Like English2francais mentioned this post doesn't really belong here and eqoppa.com is registered in Germany to a Asaf Labes. From a wiki profil (repeated on a few other sites as well) I found this about him: Asaf Labes has an International Executive MBA degree and majored in Marketing Management. Also, he holds a B.S.. in Mechanical Engineering, and B.Eng. in Automotive Engineering.
CareerEdit

Asaf Held various positions in several private companies in Israel and in Europe. He started his career as a mentalist advisor for wealthy people, and helping to close up deals for SMB. In additional to the above, Mr. Labes is a partner in one of the biggest car performance parts company in Germany. Asaf also served in several governmental projects, and was one of the first who did the research for finding an electric solution for cars.

But this site is now offline. Sounds pretty much like a scam to me. Revenue of 140,000 projected for the year creating profit of 10,000 a month! Also he mentions a ROI of 3 to 4 months, which makes no sense. Rate of investment is a percentage not a duration of time. One can only guess that he is suggesting that the initial investment would be paid back in only 3 - 4 months. Something that sounds too good to be true usually is. If it is legit then it should pass a careful scrutiny! - @TominStuttgart

Sorry, here was you post from a while back? Where is the post you are referring to? Can you quote it for me with the user name? Tx.