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fluffy2560 wrote:wavydavid wrote:....
We Kiwis still love hedgehogs but don't tell the NZ Department of Conservation...
My daughter currently lives in NZ and she found a hedgehog and as a UK person, brought up to love hedgehogs, was caring for it and asked me if she should take it to a wildlife centre. I said, give it some dog food, some water, then let it go. Wildlife centre would probably have to kill it as NZ DoC might have to become involved.
Instead of culling NZ hedgehogs, they could ship them back to the UK as we've got a shortage..
I am not sure when an invasive species become an accepted part of the local flora and fauna. Where is RadiumPotato in this forum when you need him?
BTW, I believe NZ hedgehogs are slightly smaller than UK versions. Darwin at work.
I plan to drill a hole in my fence so that hedgehogs can move freely in and out of our garden.
They were once much bigger and in my lifetime. However, they eat the eggs and young of endangered native birds. So do the other introduced "pests" like weasels, stoats and rats; they are far worse than hedgehogs but all fall victim to the traps and bait. As life expectancy for hedgehogs decreases, perhaps they are smaller because they are younger? Rabbits and possums are also cute but introduced "pests" too. Australia wants their possums back for the same reasons. They are a threatened species in Oz. Sad but they should never have been brought to NZ by our forebears. Our native (ground dwelling) bird and reptile species had no predators 200 years ago. Many have now become extinct, which is even sadder. Domestic cats are next on the list... Hopefully they'll "chip" them and only target feral cats or repeat feline offenders...
wavydavid wrote:....
They were once much bigger and in my lifetime. However, they eat the eggs and young of endangered native birds. So do the other introduced "pests" like weasels, stoats and rats; they are far worse than hedgehogs but all fall victim to the traps and bait. As life expectancy for hedgehogs decreases, perhaps they are smaller because they are younger? Rabbits and possums are also cute but introduced "pests" too. Australia wants their possums back for the same reasons. They are a threatened species in Oz. Sad but they should never have been brought to NZ by our forebears. Our native (ground dwelling) bird and reptile species had no predators 200 years ago. Many have now become extinct, which is even sadder. Domestic cats are next on the list... Hopefully they'll "chip" them and only target feral cats or repeat feline offenders...
I can see where DoC is coming from. But all our (UK) culture is aimed at how cute they are Beatrix Potter and Mrs Tiggywinkle etc. Unlike rats which are not loved by anyone. I can say the same for weasels and stoats. They were responsible I think for the death of our last pet chicken. Shipping them back to the UK would be an ideal situation. I believe cats are being restricted in WA, Australia or somewhere. They can only be out on a lead. Maybe the indigenous species will start to adapt eventually. Hedgehogs in the UK now run if they see headlights and do not curl up in a spikey ball.
It might sound counter-intuitive, but Ascension island in the Atlantic is literally covered in invasive species. They have a man produced rain forest there. They did it to create water sources. It seems to have been a rather interesting success.
I'm waiting for the Dodo and Great Auk to come back. I've given up on dinosaurs.
fluffy2560 wrote:wavydavid wrote:....
They were once much bigger and in my lifetime. However, they eat the eggs and young of endangered native birds. So do the other introduced "pests" like weasels, stoats and rats; they are far worse than hedgehogs but all fall victim to the traps and bait. As life expectancy for hedgehogs decreases, perhaps they are smaller because they are younger? Rabbits and possums are also cute but introduced "pests" too. Australia wants their possums back for the same reasons. They are a threatened species in Oz. Sad but they should never have been brought to NZ by our forebears. Our native (ground dwelling) bird and reptile species had no predators 200 years ago. Many have now become extinct, which is even sadder. Domestic cats are next on the list... Hopefully they'll "chip" them and only target feral cats or repeat feline offenders...
I can see where DoC is coming from. But all our (UK) culture is aimed at how cute they are Beatrix Potter and Mrs Tiggywinkle etc. Unlike rats which are not loved by anyone. I can say the same for weasels and stoats. They were responsible I think for the death of our last pet chicken. Shipping them back to the UK would be an ideal situation. I believe cats are being restricted in WA, Australia or somewhere. They can only be out on a lead. Maybe the indigenous species will start to adapt eventually. Hedgehogs in the UK now run if they see headlights and do not curl up in a spikey ball.
It might sound counter-intuitive, but Ascension island in the Atlantic is literally covered in invasive species. They have a man produced rain forest there. They did it to create water sources. It seems to have been a rather interesting success.
I'm waiting for the Dodo and Great Auk to come back. I've given up on dinosaurs.
Oh, we have dinosaurs...
wavydavid wrote:....
fluffy2560 wrote:I'm waiting for the Dodo and Great Auk to come back. I've given up on dinosaurs.
Oh, we have dinosaurs...
I'm convinced that Google etc are listening in via my phone and for sure are scanning the contents of my e-mails.
I'm mentioning dinosaurs on a random basis to see if I'm marketed a dinosaur from Amazon or other spammer type BS.
Despite doing this for more than a year, I've not been offered one.
I don't care about dinosaurs really so there's no disappointment. . I'm thinking of dropping dinosaur in favour of neanderthal. 'm looking for opportunities to insert it into conversation, text messages and e-mails etc to see if it's picked up.
I think we have some Neanderthals too...
Actually, I think I saw one in the mirror one day...
wavydavid wrote:I think we have some Neanderthals too...
Actually, I think I saw one in the mirror one day...
You too?! I usually see them in the morning. My teenagers are show signs of it but getting better.
Anyhoo, I'm willing to take anecdotal and spooky evidence of Google listening in on keywords. The more ridiculous the better.
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