Bio fuel in Hungary

Member since 24 February 2009

PDIinHungaryActive member13 July 2010 19:41:47

Ok, so here's the new thread.....

Technically, although not legally here in Hungary it's possible to go to Lidl and buy pure sunflower oil to run your diesel car on. Until this week they were selling the stuff for around 225huf per litre, a saving of over 100huf per litre on diesel. Most diesel cars will run on the veg oil, especially older cars but it all depends on the mixture and the vehicle mechanics. For example, indirect injection engines tend to be ok, along with a Bosch fuel pump, Lucas fuelpumps don't always like the thicker veg oil.
In England I ran 2 or 3 diesel cars on a mixture of diesel and veg oil straight from the supermarket without any major issues. However, here in Hungary there can be a starting problem in winter due to the viscosity of vegetable oil and glow plugs don't always last quite as long. I've run cars on over 90% vegetable oil though which represents a considerable saving.
The other option here would be to secure a source of waste vegetable oil from a restaurant or such like and filter the stuff down. This way you would have virtually free fuel.....but that would be illegal of course for the time being until this government cottons on to renewable energy sources.

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fluffy2560 Hungary Expert

Member since 21 July 2009

fluffy2560Hungary Expert13 July 2010 19:49:17

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PDIinHungary wrote:
Ok, so here's the new thread.....

......until this government cottons on to renewable energy sources.

I assume that Hungary has signed up to Kyoto etc. I don't know what that has to say about biofuel but you'd think it was important for a fuel importing country like Hungary to have initiatives in this area. Perhaps you can use biofuel but say as a demonstrator or for scientific research? I also wondered why electric cars were not popular in Hungary - zero emissions surely would mean, zero registration tax?

Incidentally, all our recycling bins were taken away. There's no more recycling here in Budakeszi. Everything just has to go in the ordinary bin it seems. We have no idea why this is going on.

Quick edit. I found this online. Very informative (to me anyway):
http://www.slideshare.net/biomotiontour … bor-milics

logger Active member

Member since 02 May 2010

loggerActive member15 July 2010 06:18:43

Steady on, guys. Don't use ALL the sunflowers for biofuel, the seeds make wonderful food to eat!

When the US started diverting a significant portion of its corn crop to biofuel, I seem to remember the subsequent price rise on world markets caused riots in Mexico. Corn is the main ingredient in their daily tortilla, although I have to admit, at the time I didn't notice any hike in my tottilla chips.

God help us, if the energy lobby ever home in on the desert worm they use to make tequila, the price of margueritas will go through the roof!

szocske Serial expat

Member since 24 December 2009

szocskeSerial expat15 July 2010 08:07:34

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We already make gazillion tons of oil from such seeds, fry stuff in it once or twice, and then dump it.

It's not like the corn -> ethanol scam for buying votes with subsidies in the US at all.

The real thing is of course feeding sewage to specially bread oil producing algee, just add sunshine and hold your nose :-)

Back to the situation in Hungary: The story behind the stubborn regulations is the historical experience when the tax difference between diesel fuel and heating oil was larger than the cost of converting one to the other, and how organised crime as we know it today grew up on this in the early years after socialism.