What do you like the most in Vietnam?
I thought you are just funny. Now I understood that you are very rich too!
But what we do? Freedom of speech is conferred by Vietnamese Constitution!
All people? I think you never read my complete post.
Claireengtalk1 wrote:If you just impressed about bad things like that, i have no ideas. But it is not fair to speak public for all people in my city
charmavietnam wrote:I just need this
TanRay wrote:" This is Vietnam".
Unless an expat has lived among the people, the REAL people, ( for more than 5 minutes ), the farmers and fisherman, etc, who are the backbone of VN, and not the westernised city dwellers, and had a few dealings with Govt officials/departments, and VN " business " people, most Ex Pats have no real idea of what " this is VN '' is really all about.
Nearly everywhere you go in VN the the people are different, even their traditions can be different, and their opinion of Foreigners can vary greatly, many 5 minute expats need a reality check, xenophobia, racism and class warfare is thriving in VN. And so are the mosquito's, ants, ( in fact all insects ), snakes, rats and mice that have very little fear of people or daylight, crop diseases and therefore chemical ridden food, pollution, ( in all forms ), complete disregard for anyone's personal space or privacy, disgusting manners, cruelty to animals, corrupt Govt employees, deceitful lying people, the increasing heat/humidity, the list seems endless.
Future visitors/husbands need to know it's not the so called utopia some of these expat rejects from western civilization make it out to be.
If I knew as much after my first year here, as I did before that, there would have been no way I'd have come here to " live ", ( and that was after several previous visits ), unfortunately VN is stuck with me, ( unless another VN harasses me again, like this retard this morning ).
Can't wait for all the VN apologists to answer this, try denying it. ( that will just show us exactly how much you really know about VN and the people ).
One day I might collect all my notes together and write a book about my observations of VN's and VN " culture ", during my first few years in VN, but it seems to be ongoing, might need a few sequels.
All people? "
I think quite a few people rotting in VN prisons might disagree with you on that.
bluenz wrote:charmavietnam wrote:I just need this
TanRay wrote:" This is Vietnam".
Unless an expat has lived among the people, the REAL people, ( for more than 5 minutes ), the farmers and fisherman, etc, who are the backbone of VN, and not the westernised city dwellers, and had a few dealings with Govt officials/departments, and VN " business " people, most Ex Pats have no real idea of what " this is VN '' is really all about.
Nearly everywhere you go in VN the the people are different, even their traditions can be different, and their opinion of Foreigners can vary greatly, many 5 minute expats need a reality check, xenophobia, racism and class warfare is thriving in VN. And so are the mosquito's, ants, ( in fact all insects ), snakes, rats and mice that have very little fear of people or daylight, crop diseases and therefore chemical ridden food, pollution, ( in all forms ), complete disregard for anyone's personal space or privacy, disgusting manners, cruelty to animals, corrupt Govt employees, deceitful lying people, the increasing heat/humidity, the list seems endless.
Future visitors/husbands need to know it's not the so called utopia some of these expat rejects from western civilization make it out to be.
If I knew as much after my first year here, as I did before that, there would have been no way I'd have come here to " live ", ( and that was after several previous visits ), unfortunately VN is stuck with me, ( unless another VN harasses me again, like this retard this morning ).
Can't wait for all the VN apologists to answer this, try denying it. ( that will just show us exactly how much you really know about VN and the people ).
One day I might collect all my notes together and write a book about my observations of VN's and VN " culture ", during my first few years in VN, but it seems to be ongoing, might need a few sequels.
Surely you jest?
I have never had any of the problems you mention.
The neighbours in my gated Villa community are very friendly.
My personal driver who takes me to and from my Company office is most kind.He can even speak English
Our office building is very clean and tidy.It was built 2 years ago,so it's not a fancy new building by any means.
The lunch lady always delivers on time with the freshest of meals.
Sometimes other employees and I go and eat just like the 'locals'.The Sheraton has some lovely authentic dishes.
And yes,I've been to the provinces and mixed in with regular Vietnamese people.
My family and I regularly fly to Nha Trang for a weekend at the Intercon hotel.
We love the private beach and the hotel always provides an excellent driver for us.
But with the nanny and our personal assistant coming too we almost fill up the business class seats.
So,yes I heart Vietnam.
Yogi has some friends that live in a gated community. They've been there for years.
They get free clothes, medical, dental, computers, sports equipment ...all the good stuff.
They also even get chaperoned on business class flights wearing bullet proof vests to attend Court Hearings. But that's all changed,😅😅😅
Some of them end up getting dumped in places like Cambodia on witness protection programmes. They cunning ones even find their way across here.
Aah the good life.
I do believe wrote:What do you like the most in Vietnam? Christine we have a problem. The wanna be heres and the don't wanna be heres are not in sync. The five minute expats outnumber the lifers. I learned something today, some expats don't want to be here. I think Vietnam is perhaps the best country in the world (for me) so it seems strange some people don't agree.
You forgot to mention how the VN members outnumber the expats considerably. then we get the " expats " that would " like " to live here with their expert advice from their short visits. And talking about " Experts ", some " Experts " from other countries trying to tell us how things work here???? One I'm quite sure has never even been to VN, he likes to tell us all about Brazil for some reason.
bluenz wrote:I do believe wrote:What do you like the most in Vietnam? Christine we have a problem. The wanna be heres and the don't wanna be heres are not in sync. The five minute expats outnumber the lifers. I learned something today, some expats don't want to be here. I think Vietnam is perhaps the best country in the world (for me) so it seems strange some people don't agree.
You forgot to mention how the VN members outnumber the expats considerably. then we get the " expats " that would " like " to live here with their expert advice from their short visits. And talking about " Experts ", some " Experts " from other countries trying to tell us how things work here???? One I'm quite sure has never even been to VN, he likes to tell us all about Brazil for some reason.
It's the 6:3:1 rule(don't quote me,Mr. Carnegie)
In business marketing it's - 60% are uninterested,30% are interested and 10% are genuine.
That could translate here with the same %'s but different titles.
bluenz wrote:I do believe wrote:What do you like the most in Vietnam? Christine we have a problem. The wanna be heres and the don't wanna be heres are not in sync. The five minute expats outnumber the lifers. I learned something today, some expats don't want to be here. I think Vietnam is perhaps the best country in the world (for me) so it seems strange some people don't agree.
You forgot to mention how the VN members outnumber the expats considerably. then we get the " expats " that would " like " to live here with their expert advice from their short visits. And talking about " Experts ", some " Experts " from other countries trying to tell us how things work here???? One I'm quite sure has never even been to VN, he likes to tell us all about Brazil for some reason.
You are bitter but funny bitter.
Reason : No political comments here please
ThaoBrewster wrote:I'm thankful that I live here and not in London. Vietnam for the Vietnamese, you can't argue with that.
The Red lights are "optional" and the police have an open minded business like attitude to doing things.
Yogi007 wrote:Yogi likes the Traffic lights and Policemen here.
The Red lights are "optional" and the police have an open minded business like attitude to doing things.
Hahaha, the police is only open-minded with foreigners, or with some guys looks like mafia, they never open-mined with women
. That's why when I drive, I always wear big dress, and coat and mask to cover all my body, face. Sometimes they feel bored, they will try to stop some women to talk/ask, hehe 
You should see they work very hard at the end of month and beginning (I don't wouldn't say to collect salary), especially, CSGT guys!
Yogi007 wrote:The police have an open minded business like attitude to doing things.
mok199 wrote:I have lived in Thailand so I can only compare the two,i find people in vnam are more ambitious and have a greater sense of honour and respect both for themselves and others.hard work is paramount to self esteem,if you don't work for what you have then you and your children count on others to help you,and the cycle continues.....but most I love the early mornings in the many parks and the people who rise early to excersize and play sports,drink tea show their birds and practice thai chi.....physical and mental health matter in vnam...
i love the ''AO DAI'',i think it is the classiest and sexiest traditional dress in the world...
jkelly5762 wrote:You'll get no argument from me on this one. Vietnam - The land of short shorts and miniskirts, and girls who know how to wear them. Enough said................
Trời ơi, I wish I could see my colleague wear skirt once, even knee-length dress
. I know many girls here don't like to wear dress, even I said many times, that: you are women, need to be beautiful, to feel love yourself... But no, they always wear long pants
. They only try to buy many long pants, and many blouses with nice style
.
I wear shorts, and skirts sometimes when I hang out with friends! But don't say to me that I should stop wearing them because foreigners can't focus anything when they see me
. I can't stop 

In my home country, I'd be wondering if your colleagues were men or women. At least here, we pretty much know you're talking about women.

Ngatt, what did I like about them? First of all, I liked their scent. Second of all, I liked their walk, their talk, their sense of style, and especially their ribald sense of humor. I liked that true Vietnamese feminine cackle they let out when they really enjoy a good laugh, rather than the polite smiles and laughter they use in cultural exchanges. But most of all, what I liked about the majority of Vietnamese women I knew was their sense of family loyalty, even if I didn't particularly like certain family patriarchs and matriarchs.
But I'm just a wannabe expatriate who lived in Vietnam for a single year, 1968, before returning for multiple trips from 2002 on. When we get a few years older, our plan is to return to live so 'Em oi', who is only a tiny bit younger than myself, will be close to her family. I love returning to Vietnam so I can practice my very bad fractured Vietnamese on one and all, thereby improving slightly. The only thing I really don't like about Vietnam is running into perfected idiot expatriates who think certain historical figures are some saintly cross between Ghandi and George Washington, or whomever. Thankfully, they are in the minority.
Cam on nhieu lam cac ong ba. Nhay-du, Luc Luong Dac Biet!
smthcrg wrote:where are your photos in shorts?
I can't post my private photos here because I don't want to have problems with men hehe.
Back to topic, my friend who is Vietnamese, she lives in America now, she said : there are many beautiful woman there, they are tall, long legs, and share with their partners everything, take care family very well, better than Vietnamese women. Why many men here say Vietnamese are beautiful than women in their countries hehe
It's not that they are more beautiful here, it's just that they are so much in abundance. For me, living in the San Francisco Bay Area, and doing a lot of things in different areas on a daily basis, the sight of a woman in short shorts or a tiny mini-skirt is few and far between. Here, it's morning, noon, and night, and they are everywhere. So I can be like a kid in a candy store. I'm not ashamed to say that I gawk and stare. Hell, the other day, as a woman was getting off the bus I was on, I got smacked in the arm by another girl for watching her as she got off the bus. I didn't even know the woman who smacked me. As far as I'm concerned, if I'm too obvious, oh well................... If they don't want to be stared at or admired, then don't wear things that will attract attention. Your friend is just giving you the standard lines to make you think we have it so much better, in that respect, in America.
jkelly5762 wrote:If they don't want to be stared at or admired, then don't wear things that will attract attention.
Please don't think like that
! I don't have many chances to wear sexy dresses/shorts/skirts, just because I work for government university, so I always have to wear knee-length dresses, pants... That's why sometimes, in the weekends, or when I hang out with my friends, I like to wear short dresses (not so short), because I will not meet my students
.
When I wear some short dresses, or shorts I feel confident when I see myself in the mirror, then I think: oh, you are quite pretty, why you are not confident with yourself? Never think about showing myself for men, only dangerous for me, not them
. They can stare at me, its ok if their eyes are polite enough; but if someone try to touch me, I never say anything, but I will try to stay away from them
.


akvap2013 wrote:I love the Vietnamese people always with smiling face and no regrets sign on their faces, a warm and positive attitude of life. The most of the tourist places are well maintained and very much tourist friendly behaviour without any vested interest.
I don't see any Vietnamese with smiling faces here in HCMC.
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