Snakes, and other biting or stinging creatures in Bulgaria

Hi,

I've read that there are a lot of snakes in Bulgaria, including the most venomous snake in Europe the Nose Horned Viper, Vipera ammodytes.

With snakes of various varieties being sighted fairly frequently - living in fields, in woodland, on roads where they lay to warm in the sun, on beaches, in the sea, in rivers, in gardens, in trees, in cellars, in walls, in barns etc. Especially more so in rural Bulgaria.

How frequently have you seen a wild snake in Bulgaria?

Also, Bulgaria having warmer summers than Britain has its fair share of bugs, insects, spiders etc not present in Britain.
Including the false widow spider which can make a nasty bite as reported in the media over recent years.

So are you aware of creatures that can and do have a nasty bite or sting, which can and do cause swelling or infection in humans?

And I've not even mentioned ticks.

Perhaps Bulgaria has the perfect climate and vegetation for these types of creatures to thrive in.


I'm interested in your personal experience with all this in Bulgaria, including facts what you have learned.

Thanks
Lee

I have a problem with wasps here if stung l have a reaction and pass out ,never had this problem with British wasps !!!

Thanks Truetomyself

that sounds quite concerning really. I think a man on youtube (crazybulgarianadventure) said the wasps are more powerful in Bulgaria than Britain.

Also during the summer time in Bulgaria -
Are there a lot of blow flies (AKA bluebottle or greenbottle flies)?
Are there many mosquitos?
Are there many midges?

There are plenty of snakes in Bulgaria but the vast majority of them are not poisonous to humans. The two to be aware of are the horned viper and the common european viper. The numbers of these are NOT very high in Bulgaria, but they are around. Seriously, 90% of the time if you see a snake (if not more) it will be a garden snake.

Even these, as the "most poisonous" in the Balkans are not terrible for most adults if you know basic snake first aid (keep the limb still, below heart level, and apply compression above the bite while calling for antivenom). The real risk in these is for children and elderly people who have weaker respiratory and pulmonary systems. Still, it is a good idea to keep away from snakes.

How common? I went on a hour hike round trip with my son the other day and saw two snakes. (both garden snakes)

Wasps and hornets are a pain in the butt and are often on the seaside and in the woods. I've had a couple of summer bungalows that had nearby hornet nests.

Ticks are super common and you should get in the habit of doing tick checks and know how to remove them. Many here carry lymes disease, so take them seriously.

Something to be aware of- the mosquitos are particularly nasty here. I never got swelling in the US when bit, or it was just a minor bump. Here my entire arm swells up from mosquito bites and the itch is terrible.

Thanks kojidae

when you say "garden snake" what species are you referring to?
Grass snake?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grass_snake

It is not known exactly how many different species of snakes reside in Bulgaria because there are some vipers that have not been seen in the country for such a long time that it is now thought that they are probably extinct from Bulgaria. There are however at least 10 breeds which are still in abundance. These are the Worm Snake, Cat Snake, Smooth Snake, Horn Nosed Viper, Common Viper (Adder), Grass Snake, Dice Snake, Four Lined Snake, Caspian Whip Snake, and the Aesculapian Snake.

Bulgaria has only 2 venomous snakes, the Common Viper, or as it's known in the UK; the ‘Adder'. This snake carries venom and will bite if it is picked up and maybe if it's stood on by accident. The Adder's venom, however, is quite a week and can be compared with that of a Bee sting so there is usually no cause for alarm if bitten by an adder, but any snake bite should be checked out by a medical professional to confirm this.
The Nose Horned Viper is closely related to the adder and can be similar in appearance. The venom of this beast is far more potent than that of the adder and an untreated bite from it will cause extreme pain and fever, in some cases death. Saying that it's been a number of years since there has been a fatality.
The snakes you are most likely to see in your garden are dependent on which part of the country your home is. As a general rule the common visitors will be; the smooth snake, Caspian whip snake, European grass snake, the Aesculapian and the dice snake. All of these are harmless but apart from the grass and dice snakes, they may bite if threatened. The grass and dice snakes love water, they love to swim and their diet consists mainly of fish, small frogs, and tadpoles, and some may eat lizards and earthworms. If handled these snakes will not bite but they do have a unique defense. They will sometimes release a foul smelling liquid from glands in their abdomen. The second defense of these snakes is to play dead by turning themselves upside down and hanging their mouths open with the tongue out.
Although they are not a common sight in the garden, the two venomous snakes of Bulgaria may be seen passing through.

Read more: http://www.questbg.com/index.php/lifest … z5o2MGLgXY

Bulgaria sounds like a place where people need to be tough, able, resilient and resourceful, in ways different to England, especially none natives who don't speak the language.

A hostile environment with winter-summer weather, wildlife and terrain - extremes.

I dislike blow/bluebottle/greenbottle flies( Calliphoridae), which there tends to be a lot of in England when the summers are hot. I imagine there may be a lot of these flies in Bulgaria in the hot summers, around bins, dog poop, trying to find food in houses etc??

@Lee4:

i find hostile environment very exaggerated. i really i don't think you have to worry that much.

@koyidae:

i'm surprised you've seen so many.

i've been living in china and thailalnd for almost 5 years and i have never seen a snake. even though i guess there have been some close at times, i just didn't see them.

generally snakes have no interest in human contact and rather take off.

Hey Lee4,

I really like reading your totally wrong suggestions, but've always wondered whether you're trying to convince yourself what an awful place Bulgaria is or just to inform the locals ??? Anyway, I enjoy all this. Really!!!

http://thesaltcollective.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/welcome_to_hell_by_tyger_graphics-d6009k0-604x270.jpg

And back to the topic:

"Bulgaria sounds like a place where people need to be tough, able, resilient and resourceful, in ways different to England, especially none natives who don't speak the language.
A hostile environment with winter-summer weather, wildlife and terrain - extremes.
"

You're damn right!  We're all carrying knight like armour all day! Even sometimes at night. Life insurance is a must, at the very minute you enter the border!!! And snakes here will bite everyone not speaking Bulgarian!!!
A really hostile environment!! I wonder how people live here for the past .... 20 000 yrs ?!

And DIFFERENT from England?! Oh My God!!! How can this be ?? Even The water molecule has 4 Hydrogen atoms instead of two...... UNBELIEVABLE

"I dislike blow/bluebottle/greenbottle flies( Calliphoridae), which there tends to be a lot of in England when the summers are hot. I imagine there may be a lot of these flies in Bulgaria in the hot summers, around bins, dog poop, trying to find food in houses etc?? "

In Bulgaria they are HUGE !!! In additon, all the flies here have long shapr teeth and some of them even shoot at foreigners with lazer guns !!!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dUjTcWUNH3A/maxresdefault.jpg

And have you seen our cars ? They all look like this:

https://i.postimg.cc/Y9FHk89C/1000w-q95-1539802993.jpg

Unbelievable!!! And in addition there are rules to register your car at the Traffic police office, and Laws...Jesus!!!!!!!

s.o. is trying to trick you to come here. Don't !!!!

Hi everyone,

I just found this thread and was shocked by what I read here about Bulgaria. Really I never knew that this is so dangerous country. Last summer my wife and I spent two weeks of our vacation in Bulgaria and I never met any of those creatures that you described here. Maybe you're talking about another Bulgaria.

It's not any more dangerous than other countries (wildlife wise) and much less dangerous than many (I come from Arizona, filled with over 18 kinds of poisonous-to-human snakes, scorpians, lizards that can take off a limb flesh decaying spiders etc).

It's good to know about the wildlife... good to be informed. If you don't like flies in one place, you probably won't like them anywhere.

As far as the snakes I've seen, it's all been flashes of tail as they slither away from me.

Thank you so much Kristiann,  My wife and I have split our sides laughing,  my wife is Bulgarian and we have lived here for exactly 1 year now

It was fun writing this too .... so I appreciate you did enjoy it. Anyway, those people just need to be assured their fears were not in vain.

You can read the topic with the business venture ... it had an unexpected turn :)) though quite similar to this one.

kojidae :

It's not any more dangerous than other countries (wildlife wise) and much less dangerous than many (I come from Arizona, filled with over 18 kinds of poisonous-to-human snakes, scorpians, lizards that can take off a limb flesh decaying spiders etc).

It's good to know about the wildlife... good to be informed. If you don't like flies in one place, you probably won't like them anywhere.

As far as the snakes I've seen, it's all been flashes of tail as they slither away from me.

Thanks again koji  :)

you seem like a good expat.com forum member with good info to contribute, who is also quite active in nature in bulgaria.

Since youve been in bulgaria how many wild snakes have you seen per year?
how many of these were adders (european viper)?
how many of these were nose horned vipers?

Lee4 :
kojidae :

It's not any more dangerous than other countries (wildlife wise) and much less dangerous than many (I come from Arizona, filled with over 18 kinds of poisonous-to-human snakes, scorpians, lizards that can take off a limb flesh decaying spiders etc).

It's good to know about the wildlife... good to be informed. If you don't like flies in one place, you probably won't like them anywhere.

As far as the snakes I've seen, it's all been flashes of tail as they slither away from me.

Thanks again koji  :)

you seem like a good expat.com forum member with good info to contribute, who is also quite active in nature in bulgaria.

Since youve been in bulgaria how many wild snakes have you seen per year?
how many of these were adders (european viper)?
how many of these were nose horned vipers?

Lee are you trolling?

Do you think people go around writing down each animal they see each day and add them up at end of the year?

You have been given advice. So unless you have any other questions I considered this topic ended.

I'll say I've never seen either of the poisonous variety. Only the harmless ones.

SimCityAT :
Lee4 :
kojidae :

It's not any more dangerous than other countries (wildlife wise) and much less dangerous than many (I come from Arizona, filled with over 18 kinds of poisonous-to-human snakes, scorpians, lizards that can take off a limb flesh decaying spiders etc).

It's good to know about the wildlife... good to be informed. If you don't like flies in one place, you probably won't like them anywhere.

As far as the snakes I've seen, it's all been flashes of tail as they slither away from me.

Thanks again koji  :)

you seem like a good expat.com forum member with good info to contribute, who is also quite active in nature in bulgaria.

Since youve been in bulgaria how many wild snakes have you seen per year?
how many of these were adders (european viper)?
how many of these were nose horned vipers?

Lee are you trolling?

Do you think people go around writing down each animal they see each day and add them up at end of the year?

You have been given advice. So unless you have any other questions I considered this topic ended.

harsh.
are you even a moderator?
if so, fine.
if not, stay inside your realms.

malone99 :
SimCityAT :
Lee4 :


Thanks again koji  :)

you seem like a good expat.com forum member with good info to contribute, who is also quite active in nature in bulgaria.

Since youve been in bulgaria how many wild snakes have you seen per year?
how many of these were adders (european viper)?
how many of these were nose horned vipers?

Lee are you trolling?

Do you think people go around writing down each animal they see each day and add them up at end of the year?

You have been given advice. So unless you have any other questions I considered this topic ended.

harsh.
are you even a moderator?
if so, fine.
if not, stay inside your realms.

Not at harsh

But when advise has been given its pointless to carry on. I would not call myself a moderator but I am a member of the Expat Team.

malone99 :
SimCityAT :
Lee4 :


Thanks again koji  :)

you seem like a good expat.com forum member with good info to contribute, who is also quite active in nature in bulgaria.

Since youve been in bulgaria how many wild snakes have you seen per year?
how many of these were adders (european viper)?
how many of these were nose horned vipers?

Lee are you trolling?

Do you think people go around writing down each animal they see each day and add them up at end of the year?

You have been given advice. So unless you have any other questions I considered this topic ended.

harsh.
are you even a moderator?
if so, fine.
if not, stay inside your realms.

Hi malone i completely agree. And about half the posters to this valid discussion of a thread have contributed nothing to the topic. Disappointing really.

SimCityAT :
malone99 :
SimCityAT :

Lee are you trolling?

Do you think people go around writing down each animal they see each day and add them up at end of the year?

You have been given advice. So unless you have any other questions I considered this topic ended.

harsh.
are you even a moderator?
if so, fine.
if not, stay inside your realms.

Not at harsh

But when advise has been given its pointless to carry on. I would not call myself a moderator but I am a member of the Expat Team
.

What a bad attitude.

Come on mate stop with this senseless asking about snakes. Yes they live in Bulgaria deal with it.

I'm trying to get a feel for just how I might cope with the bulgarian wildlife, before i actually go and live there. its call research everyone, and its a wise thing to do to avoid costly avoidable and potentially dangerous mistakes.

Look up the phrase "due diligence".

If you havent got anything valid to add to the actual intended topics for discussion in this thread please dont post on this thread.

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