Permanent residency to Brazil

08/02/22   I figured that marriage would be the easiest solution, though I rather would have avoided it due to my own moral choices.

Thanks again,

Dudu

- @Dudu Garcia6

08/03/22

The investment visa was something I was looking into but the stipulation for the minimum amount (R$ 150,000) is a bit confusing for me.

- @Dudu Garcia6

08/03/22 What is the difference between uniao estavel and family reuinion with a partner, is it the same?

- @ltoby955

08/03/22 Incidentally, my profession is within the STEM field but only to a technician level at the moment. Is there somewhere where I can read up on the shortage? Maybe a list of desired skills?

- @Dudu Garcia6

@Bpm917  Marriage is not for everyone and the common law is far better, I have been married more times than Liz Taylor so ouch for a repeat.  Estadio Stavel via a notario with a brazilain partner and property owned outright surely has to suffice, with teh notarised document lodges with teh authorities?

@ltoby955 I agree and would assume you're correct in thinking owning property would suffice for other documentation  - "Proof that both partners are listed as joint owners of a property or that both are listed as tenants in a rental/lease contract" In my case the rental/lease situation was not accepted despite being legalized at a cartório when we signed with the landlord. Obviously owning property (assuming both your names are tied to it) in my opinion outweighs a lease but again, it's really dependent on the person assigned to your case.

09/09/22 If you decide to go the União Estável route prepare yourself for a potentially difficult experience satisfying the PF’s ambiguous request for supplemental proof of relationship as it’s extremely unlikely you’ll get away with solely a document from a cartório.
-@Bpm917

Thanks for the reality check.  That is really bad news.  The document from the cartório used to be accepted as the gold standard of proof for a união estável.  We've been hearing from shortly before the pandemic that both the consulates abroad and the Polícia Federal in-country are becoming more and more skeptical of requests for permanent residency, and requiring more and more evidence.  When a sworn statement by a Brazilian citizen under Brazilian law doesn't go unchallenged, it's more important than ever for applicants to have their documentation complete and squeaky clean.  It sounds like flexibility is being squeezed out of the system.

@Bpm917 My partner owns her house in Brazil and I own a house in Portugal so that won't help but thanks. I see they except photos with us together and with friends and family.

@abthree It's almost funny if it wasn't so serious far more Brazilians are leaving for various reasons and find it easier to do so than us getting into Brazil. With a population of 11,000,000 in Portugal there are 600.000 Brazilains and the same amount from Venezuala.

Brazil has had and will continue to have a food production surplus in the coming year.

For multiple reasons, most of the rest of the world, including most of europe, the USA, the middle east, africa, and china, are going to be suffering food shortages starting soon.  some of them will be severe.  Before you move anywhere, take some time to research what is really happening behind the curtains......

There has been a huge shift in recent days, It seems we are ahead of the curve when it comes to news re Europe. I'm in Portugal as you have probably guessed and grain is now moving again big regains of territory has boosted stocks and Russia is pulling back to save face. We have a huge intake of Americans arriving, many come for value and being the third safest country on the planet.  I go to Brazil regulary to stay with my partner so get to see both flips of the coin.