Visto de Permanência - União Estável

97POSTS

5 years ago

Hey Everyone,

I apologize if the the topic was already discussed, I couldn't find it in the search function.

I've read in a post from @hotspur that the "minimum 1 year união estável" has been dropped. Can someone confirm this?

I'm afraid that depending on the employee at Policia Federal, I'll hear many different versions since they have no clue .

Cheers everyone, stay safe.

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Texanbrazil ViP

2744POSTS

5 years ago

I did not have to wait 1 year and that was pre-2017 immigration laws.
Now it seemed like a year gathering, translating, and legalizing all the documents, then having my CRNM. The longest wait was the home visit, which no longer applies.
The process at the tabelião was not too bad.
You will find the PF very helpful. Yes, some new migration agents may not be correct but their online website has everything you need. I find them helpful and navigating many things.
https://www.gov.br/pf/pt-br then the MJ site.

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brasilienfreund20 Active member

97POSTS

5 years ago

Thanks Texanbrazil. I appreciate.

I trust the site yes, it's very clear, but I'm afraid maybe some agent won't be up to date with the latest requirements.

So When I try to apply for the Visto Permanente and the CRNM and I show them a Certificado de União Estável which has been issued 2 weeks before, will it be valid? As @hotspur mentioned in her experience, there was no need for the document to proof a União Estável for minimum existing a year prior to get the CRNM.

I'm just trying to double check. Thank You all

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Texanbrazil ViP

2744POSTS

5 years ago

I would take a copy at least.
I found making a file a take it with my wife and show things that were asked for two visits before, and they see their little stamp.
Every little step in the application was more difficult, for me than going to the DMV in the US.
I started on the same day we were married. Had the application filled in (I thought) and went. Received the protocol, with "x" amount of days to return with what was requested.
The hard part was the FBI background check. Had difficulty finding someone to fingerprint me in our town, but again I met an agent that came from the back office because no wife with me and he came out to help me and the migration desk. I mentioned my issue and he said come with him and went in his office area and he took my prints and even had the FBI card for such.
After the years of reading questions and answers here, I feel lucky that our PF office was so helpful while others have gone crazy.

Trying to find out what or who is
@hotspur

brasilienfreund20 Active member

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5 years ago

Nice to read your experience.

hotspur is a user who wrote in 2015 this:

Just a quick follow-up as I have now had my meeting to apply for the união estável. Everything was dealt with on the day and I now have that stamp in my passport, and just await the issue of the card
To start the meeting the PF guy asked several unnecessary questions of myself and my wife. Where did we meet, had she been to England, and had she met my family ? After that, he stuck with what was on the list. The Cartorio document for the uniao estavel was quite sufficient, so I did not need any other proofs of our union existing for more than one year, as that was certified in the document, so I could in fact have done the process over a year ago, although I would then have come under the old procedures, and would still be waiting a home visit, etc.
One interesting thing Was that after the guy had run through his list of the required documents I told him that there was one more thing on the list on the PF's website which he had not asked for. This was the proof of my wife's financial means to support me if necessary. I had brought this along and he took it, but did not think it was necessary, which kind of confirms James' view that this is still on the list because they have forgotten to change the site. Anyway, it is apparently not on their own internal list.
The only other potential hitch was that as soon as he saw my police certificate, which was
100 days old since it's issue, he said that it had to be within 90 days old. This pissed me off rather as I had gone there 2 weeks before and confirmed with 3 people senior to him that the stamp of the Consulate in January effectively stopped the time period. Anyway, he accepted it and didn't expect it to be a problem.
So, once again, thank you James, and to everyone else who passed on their knowledge and experience.
Leslie

Texanbrazil ViP

2744POSTS

5 years ago

Got it, thanks. I would recommend looking at posts beginning in 2017. The immigration laws changed that year.
One of the big changes was separating the consulates from the MJ, That meant Consulates may issues visas, but the MJ/PF has the final say and may not allow a person into Brazil.
I was asked all those same questions. As I mention I also had some issues with documents provided during a previous interview, but when I show them the document with their little stamp all was good. Some information had not been entered into the system.
Wish you the best

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brasilienfreund20 Active member

97POSTS

5 years ago

Texan, I will bear this in mind. Thank You

NewBrazil Serial expat

332POSTS

5 years ago

Glad to see you got through the process. I got my permanent visa under Visto de Permanência - União Estável. It’s seem to go very easy. This was over 2 years ago my wife did a lot of the paperwork we appeared at the FP a couple of times. As far as question I don’t recall many any my wife answers what ever was asked. They did my finger prints I only brought a police report not a FBI report. They didn’t seem concerned they processed me and gave me a document to carry that extend my stay for 6 more months. It took 4 months to get my permanent card. This was during the new change in law. I did this in a small town Imperatriz. I think the larger town maybe tougher. So if you are going to do this I would suggest if possible do it in a smaller town.

Guest8774 Guest

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5 years ago

This is what iam going through.iam facing beurocracy .every time I go to the federal políce. After they send us back to bring other missing documents.Uniao estavio is very very complicated.finally after along time over 2 years last week the officer accepted to make an agenda with me to take my fingers prints this month.iam waiting for the date now IAM alil bit scared too he may change his minds and he sends us back to bring something eles.other wise it's a crazy way to go.#Rio de janeiro.

NewBrazil Serial expat

332POSTS

5 years ago

#10

You should have gotten a letter with your photo showing a extended visa for 6 months. They also should have said how long before you should receive the permanent residence card. Like I said before you are in a large city were consultants are located. I think this make the PF much more strict. Good luck