Registering with the PF w/o a local address

acpr Member

Member since 24 August 2018

acprMember15 November 2022 12:57:57

Might anyone know how to register with the Federal Police without a local address where I live?

It seems nonsensical to be required to have a local address when you've just arrived and don't have the required documents to get a local address, yet the very process of registering with the PF allows you to obtain said documents.

I technically could try to get a friend or two to let me say I'm living at their apartment, but these friends don't live near me and have zero free time. Plus the notorized document ("declaração de residência para terceiros") ends with "you certify that you'll be criminally liable if this information proves false".

I just want an RNE (aka CRNM) so I can open a bank account so I can get my own apartment, which means I'd be "living with them" for only a few months. In reality, I'll just be in an Airbnb since, knowing their living situations, it'd be impossible for me to live with them. I'd really rather just do this by myself since my two friend's lives are super hectic as is. I mean, I have to be the millionth foreigner to have to go through this problem and surely there are people who have no local friends. Do they just give up on their entire visa and go back home?

Help?

(If it matters or helps, I'm on the Digital Nomad visa)

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madrac Active member

Member since 04 October 2022

madracActive member15 November 2022 13:15:42

Can you not just use the AirBnB address with copy of rental agreement or some sort of letter from landlord? I would think this might be acceptable considering you are on a digital nomad visa.

For what it's worth, I used my wife's sister's address (although we did stay there when visiting before and whilst the house on our land is being remodeled). I also used her electric bill (in my wife's mother's name) and my wife's Brazilian cell phone bill. This was for Vitem XI (family reunion).

ltoby955 Serial expat

Member since 15 July 2022

ltoby955Serial expat15 November 2022 13:29:06

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I think you will be able to use the airbnb address, It's a bit crazy that they expect all these things It seems a little easier when you apply from your own address.

abthree Brazil Expert

Member since 28 December 2017

abthreeBrazil Expert15 November 2022 13:38:41

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11/15/22 @acpr. Welcome! Yes, it helps to know that you're on a Digital Nomad visa. If the PF questions your using the AirB&B address, make sure that they know what visa you're on, and that should resolve their question.

Most people who arrive on VITEM visas are in @madrac's situation -- family unification, with relatives in-country -- and the PF is used to dealing with that type of address. A lot of the others are on work, study, religious, or volunteer visas, and all of those have organization addresses that the applicant can use. The most likely address that a DN has is an AirB&B, and by now the PF probably understands that.

Good luck. Please let us know how it goes.

acpr Member

Member since 24 August 2018

acprMember15 November 2022 13:52:53

Thank you all for your replies!

Due to end of year festivities and Carnival coming, I haven't succeeded in getting a sole Airbnb (at an accessible rate) to serve as my only address for multiple months, meaning I've been changing Airbnbs each month or so. My next one, however, is for 2 months, so I'll try to use that as my address if I can get away with not having to prove that I live there (with a utility bill or rental contract).

If in fact I have to use the document (para terceiros) that I mentioned, it would require going to the notary with any one of the Airbnb owners, which I frankly don't see as feasible - that is, I don't think they'd be into doing that.

Apparently my PF visit must be a registered appointment, but I will try to go in person without an appt just to ask the housing question. I heard it's at Santos Dumont airport here in Rio so it's not too hard to get to.

abthree Brazil Expert

Member since 28 December 2017

abthreeBrazil Expert15 November 2022 14:03:35

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11/15/22 @acpr. In your AirB&B profile, under Trips, when you click on your last or current stay to view the details, just before the buttons for "Print Details" and "Get Receipt", there's one for "Get a PDF for Visa Purposes". This seems tailor-made for the DN situation.