Discrimination by Town Hall

If it is working (teaching) on a voluntary basis, I have been assured by a Spaniard, Juan, who organises groups of volunteers, mainly Spaniards, working in various areas for the local town hall, that one must be registered to do so legally. That includes being insured

I have been a volunteer with the police for 20 years.  JJuan assured me that to work as volunteer I need to be registered otherwise he said it is illegal

In your case too it may well be correct that you cannot work as a volunteer unless your get registered

Sorry I cannot be more precise but maybe you can follow up using that info

Bottom line. You are almost certainly not being discriminaste against.  It is the law for everyone


Good luck

Thank you Johncar for the info, even though the law is not applied on everyone.

I guess everywhere there is some variation on how laws are applied.  That certainly applies in U.K. too as it does in spain

In your case though now you know it it not something just aimed at you, maybe you can get registered and get back to what you enjoy doIng

Regards   John

Dani

Just for your info. 

This is an email I had from my acquaintance Juan:-

‘ Gracias por su mensaje, y me complace que su equipo haya decidido formar parte de nuestra asociación en lugar de participar en el complejo proceso de formar usted mismo. Por otro lado, hacer el trabajo fuera de la ley, no estar asociado, podría eventualmente tener dificultades: todo está bien siempre y cuando todo salga bien. Sin embargo. Sin dudas, el oficial de policía a cargo de Xxxxxxxx. se verá aliviado por el hecho de que ella tendrá en el futuro voluntarios que son parte de una asociación y están cubiertos por la Ley y por una póliza de seguro.

Hemos instalado letreros en todos los centros donde trabajamos, hasta ahora seis, con nuestro logotipo y publicidad de nuestros servicios, días y horas durante los cuales estamos disponibles en todos los centros. A cada uno de nuestros miembros se le otorga una placa que muestra su nombre y una foto de la persona; estamos tratando de crear una imagen y mantener una buena reputación por el trabajo que hacemos. Por lo tanto, será necesario que cada miembro del equipo que trabaja en la Policía sea miembro de cxxxxxxxx, esté cubierto por nuestra póliza de seguro, cumpla con nuestras normas y contribuya a nuestro buen nombre. Esta persona a la que usted mencionó se negó a completar el formulario, deberá tomar una decisión: o se convertirá en miembro o no podrá trabajar con nosotros en el futuro.

Cada vez que hemos tenido un nuevo miembro que solicita la membresía, hemos llevado a cabo una entrevista con la persona interesada para descubrir su nivel de inglés o español, descubrir qué motiva a la persona a ser miembro de Xxxxxx, tener una dentro de sus vidas pasadas en asuntos que consideramos que podrían afectar nuestra asociación. Como acordamos al inicio de nuestras conversaciones, aceptaremos en nuestra asociación a todo el equipo que ha estado trabajando en la estación de policía de xxxxxxxxx, algunos de ellos durante muchos años, sin una entrevista previa. Sin embargo, cualquier solicitante a partir de entonces será sometido a este procedimiento.

Tenga en cuenta que una vez que se convierte en miembro de xxxxxxxx.  se le envía a nuestros Estatutos (de los cuales creo que le envié una copia anteriormente) y a nuestras reglas: cualquier cambio o alteración en la naturaleza de su funcionamiento tendrá que ser presentado al Comité o a la Asamblea General, como sea el caso.

Adjunte una foto de cada persona para que podamos producir una insignia personificada. La fotografía puede enviarse por correo electrónico, de preferencia, o a nuestra. Xxxxxxxxxxxx

Una vez que me haya enviado los formularios de registro de todos sus miembros, podría ser una buena idea que nos arregle un día para que nosotros dos nos reunamos con el oficial responsable de la Policía Nacional de cxxxxxxxxx

Estoy copiando este correo electrónico a todos los miembros, en nombre de los cuales me complace darles la bienvenida a todos como parte de esta, ¡creciendo! - familia de voluntarios. ‘

Yes, thanks again John. I hope it will be sorted to enjoy the coming fine days.

Blessings, Dani

Romeo Juliet

Thank you for apparently trying to help, even though you have no trust I was saying the truth and referred to my country; I am not from Mars.

Yes, as a European, I have the same right, but not when people in authority turn a blind eye on some (positive and negative)- depending on who you are.

cheers

Thanks John,

I understand the value of voluntary work. Not understanding all details, this seems a good venture.

We press on doing what makes our society a better one.

Cheers

Dani

Yes, as a European, I have the same right, but not when people in authority turn a blind eye on some (positive and negative)- depending on who you are.

IMHO two wrongs never make aright.  I could also never live with braking the law knowing I would have to keep looking over my shoulder just in case.
Up here in Galicia one person who decided to side track the law has had a devastating consequence on the local village. He stored and/or made fireworks in is house after his factory was closed down to to irregularities. The whole village has been blown up.

https://www.euroweeklynews.com/news/on- … hern-spainhttps://elpais.com/elpais/2018/05/23/al … 10418.html

Because it is not very clear, when you say "work you have a license for" are you meaning building on your property?

JB


Just to make it clear.

    In spain no matter who you are ,  to work legally as volunteer one must be registered.   

So in this case there is no discrimination but a misunderstanding of the law

Having lived in spain for 30 years and worked as a volunteer with the police, for 20 years, at times  with  the Guadia civil, the national police and local police,   I have often heard people complaining when they think something appears to be discrimination, however, practically always it has been they have misunderstood the situation

At no point did the OP say they stopped them from working voluntarily.

What they did say was...

Problems occurred with the Town Hall in Arcos de la Frontera (Cadiz), in part, they stopped me doing a work I have licence to do and unjustly permitted my neighbour to block me completely.

Which isn't entirely clear but I see this question having nothing to do with volunteering, it makes no sense. What does make sense is the OP got a license to do some building work, the neighbour has objected and has had the license revoked. Which is something that actually happens here.

I can't see much sense in the OP already having a license to do volunteer work is now being stopped by the town hall because of a neighbour who somehow knows what the OP does in their free time has complained. This seems like a stretch, even for Spain.

But like I said it would help if the OP clarified this.

JB

I read between the lines so suspected it was working as a volunteer which was the problem

In dani’s subsequent posts he seemed to have confirmed that

I suspect the licence is a qualification to teach english.  Thus it has no connection with working as a volunteer

As I posted, I have 20 years experience working as a volunteer so I do have  ‘some’ knowledge in that area

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