NIE / Padron

@horses527286

You just do your EU Citizen Registration. They need an address but they don't ask for the Padron certificate. You get a little paper certificate which includes your new NIE.

https://sede.policia.gob.es/portalCiuda … danoue.php

This certificate is sometimes called the Green NIE. Here's more info and a picture:

https://spainserviceimmigration.com/nie … ie-blanco/

@gwynj

Thank you so much for all your answers — they've been incredibly helpful.

I currently hold a Long-Term Residence (LTR) permit in Italy, but I'm planning to move to Spain. What’s been challenging for me is understanding how to begin the process. Finding a job is already difficult, and having to explain that I need to go through a legal procedure that might take up to three months makes it even harder.

So my main question is: Is it possible to apply for a Temporary Residence (TR) permit in Spain without having a job offer? Or is it strictly necessary to first secure employment and then apply for the permit?

I know it's been a while since I started thinking about this — almost two years — but I’m giving it another shot and hoping for some good luck this time.

@Juan Pulido

First, when you say "Long-Term Residence (LTR) permit" do you mean the 10 year card / permanent residence? i.e. you've already been living in Italy for 5 or more years and have the Soggiornante di lungo periodo – CE. Or you have a 5 year (or less) card?

If the latter, then you can apply from scratch as a non-EU citizen. If you can find a suitable employer and job offer, you can apply for residence by employment. You can also do it as self-employed. Without a job you can try the NLV (No Lucrativa Visa). This doesn't allow you to work, but it gives you legal residence so you can move to Spain, find a place to live. Then, you do your job search and it's a bit easier as you're already there. But you still need a cooperative employer and suitable employment contract/offer, and you'll need to change your residence status.

If the former, this is a big deal as EU mobility rules say that you SHOULD be able to relocate to Spain based on this. However, I'm not entirely sure how one does it. I've found a couple of information pages for you. My guess is that you apply directly for the equivalent Spanish LTR (Autorizacion de Residencia de Larga Duracion UE). The form is the EX-11, and one of the options included is already holding the LTR from another EU country - Titular de autorización de residencia de larga duración-UE en otro Estado miembro (art. 155). I think you'd be swapping your Italian LTR for a Spanish one.

https://www.inclusion.gob.es/en/web/mig … uracion-ue

https://www.localexpatsolutions.com/blo … r-en-espaa

https://www.parainmigrantes.info/como-o … o-europeo/

Thank you for your answer and sorry for my late reply. Yes sir I do have the soggiornante di lungo periodo EU, I’ve been living in Italy for the past 6 years.

What if I apply to the residence with no lucrative purposes as you mentioned? I was checking the requirements but in terms of the mine is not very clear, how much would I need. And also my Italia residence would be cancelled if I get the Spanish one for non lucrative purposes?

Do you think I could perhaps get a remote job in Italy and move and live in Spain with that residence of non lucrative purposes, because that would be so good for me.

I’m sorry for the many answers, your help means a lot to me, it’s very much appreciated!!

Thank you once again!