Sending and receiving packages in Germany

How easy is it to send and receive packages in Germany?

Painful. Often when you go to Post offices you have to wait in a very long queue... sometimes I waited up to 20 minutes, carrying my parcel....

Is the public postal system efficient?

Inefficient. You can go on the website of DHL and indicate 5 times your Wunschort (where you would like them to leave your packages....). They never respect that. You complain, they take many days to reply to your email. Finally, they tell you sorry. And repeat the same mistake again, and again.

How long does it take generally to receive packages from abroad in Germany?

Quick... but often things get broken or lost ....
When I moved in from the UK, 13 of my 16 double-walled boxes arrived broken with lost items...

Do you have to pay taxes on items received by mail from abroad?

Not only taxes.... Not only VAT .... but also a silly fee of something like €20ish on every single box....

Are packages delivered right to your doorstep, or do you usually have to go collect them somewhere?

The distributors often ring the bell, put the "you were not home" slip in your box and drive away before you reach the door.

expat_since_1995 wrote:

Hi Priscilla,
I am usually one of those who rather passively read on expat.com but don't write. But when I saw your topic, I just could not not react to it.

How easy is it to send and receive packages in Germany?

Painful. Often when you go to Post offices you have to wait in a very long queue... sometimes I waited up to 20 minutes, carrying my parcel....

I've had the same experience, regularly long lines at the post office

Is the public postal system efficient?

Inefficient. You can go on the website of DHL and indicate 5 times your Wunschort (where you would like them to leave your packages....). They never respect that. You complain, they take many days to reply to your email. Finally, they tell you sorry. And repeat the same mistake again, and again.

I've never registered a wish online but have told delivery people not to leave packages in the strairwell and they do it anyway.

Do you have to pay taxes on items received by mail from abroad?

Not only taxes.... Not only VAT .... but also a silly fee of something like €20ish on every single box....

I've never paid anything! There are no fees for the receiver for delivery. There can be import duties and taxes on merchandise coming from outside the EU. The post does offer a system of payment on arrival for mechandise which is actually very practical since one then has the security of not paying until something arrives. There is something like a 5 Euro extra fee for that, which will be included in the total cost.

Are packages delivered right to your doorstep, or do you usually have to go collect them somewhere?

The distributors often ring the bell, put the "you were not home" slip in your box and drive away before you reach the door.

I've often experienced that they don't even ring. I live on the 4th floor and I think that when in a hurry that just leave the pickup notice and drive away without even trying to deliver a package.

beppi wrote:

Parcel delivery drivers are among the worst paid professions in Germany.
If you want to make this guy's life even more miserable, you can lodge a complain with DHL.
But this will not change the system, unfortunately.

True. The dhl employee would not wait for me 1 minute to open the door and would not leave the package with a neighbour... The easiest solution for them is to return the parcel and let everyone of us drive to the post office (only open during work hours where I live.... ) leaving work too early to be at the post office before they close... German efficiency is a myth.

I have tens of stories to share .... I wish I had the time to write all of those. Maybe one day. Anyone interested in co-writing that book with me ? Let us make something good out of this....

expat_since_1995 wrote:

German efficiency is a myth.

If you expect Germany to be efficient in all aspects, you will be disappointed.
There are areas where Germany is tops (like planning - but not in executing such plans, and also in complex industries like automobile and high-tech machinery), and others where it is not (e.g. many services you don't want to pay German prices for, like parcel delivery) and then others where efficiency is simply not considered (e.g. the infamous public service).
I have seen many countries and still believe that overall, and despite the obvious drawbacks, Germany is still more efficient than most.

beppi wrote:

Nobody would want to read a book full of complaints.
Spend your time doing something more pleasant!

expat_since_1995 wrote:

German efficiency is a myth.

If you expect Germany to be efficient in all aspects, you will be disappointed.
There are areas where Germany is tops (like planning - but not in executing such plans, and also in complex industries like automobile and high-tech machinery), and others where it is not (e.g. many services you don't want to pay German prices for) and then others where efficiency is simply not considered (e.g. the infamous public service).
I have seen many countries and still believe that overall, and despite the obvious drawbacks, Germany is still more efficient than most.

I beg to differ. That's where international experience kicks in. I lived in Berlin for a few months. Every time we had 0.5 cm of snow, trains would simply be cancelled because of the "cold weather". Wait then for the next train, an hour later, which might also be cancelled.... Hello German punctuality...

In Switzerland, where i spent most of my life, even by freezing temperatures, 99% of trains must be on time.... And we know on which platform the train is going to be a full year ahead, as opposed to London train stations where people gather like lambs in stations by the boards to find out which track their train is on. The track is often announced A FEW minutes before its departure. Running for seats was a horrendous manifestation of Darwin's survival of the fittest, and old ladies in their 80s often had to stand in the train ....  Hello civilization.... I miss my Switzerland.... please bear with me.

expat_since_1995 wrote:

beppi wrote:

Nobody would want to read a book full of complaints.
Spend your time doing something more pleasant!

expat_since_1995 wrote:

German efficiency is a myth.

If you expect Germany to be efficient in all aspects, you will be disappointed.
There are areas where Germany is tops (like planning - but not in executing such plans, and also in complex industries like automobile and high-tech machinery), and others where it is not (e.g. many services you don't want to pay German prices for) and then others where efficiency is simply not considered (e.g. the infamous public service).
I have seen many countries and still believe that overall, and despite the obvious drawbacks, Germany is still more efficient than most.

I beg to differ. That's where international experience kicks in. I lived in Berlin for a few months. Every time we had 0.5 cm of snow, trains would simply be cancelled because of the "cold weather". Wait then for the next train, an hour later, which might also be cancelled.... Hello German punctuality...

In Switzerland, where i spent most of my life, even by freezing temperatures, 99% of trains must be on time.... And we know on which platform the train is going to be a full year ahead, as opposed to London train stations where people gather like lambs in stations by the boards to find out which track their train is on. The track is often announced A FEW minutes before its departure. Running for seats was a horrendous manifestation of Darwin's survival of the fittest, and old ladies in their 80s often had to stand in the train ....  Hello civilization.... I miss my Switzerland.... please bear with me.

You brought up the UK, any country is better than the UK when it comes down to traveling by train

beppi wrote:

Hahaha, Switzerland:
My one and only experience so far (despite extensive travel in the third world) of a cancelled onwards flight was at Zurich airport in a January 15 years ago, when an overnight 10cm of snow led to complete chaos and shutdown of all services. I was on a day trip to Geneva (from Germany) and eventually had to return home without ever reaching my destinations, while glad to get out of the many hours of mayhem at all!
To top it all, the airline refused to refund, claiming "force majeure". My argument that snow in a Swiss winter is normal was not accepted and I never got the money back.
I laughed when, a few years later, Swiss Air became insolvent and got bought by Lufthansa ...

I was in Geneva then .... I remember that year. Indeed it was force majeure then. LOL. To this day, as you surely know, airline companies only refund you when they are at fault.... As long as they don't control thunder and storm, you won't get your money back...

SimCityAT wrote:

You brought up the UK, any country is better than the UK when it comes down to traveling by train

The statement does sound harsh and an over-reaction, but I have to admit you could argue it is.... I genuinely loathed the tooo overcrowded 70 year old underground trains in London... I remember with agony the Central line going to Upton and the horrendous noise and smell of the brakes.... Gosh... there, I believe, billions of pounds are not genuinely re-invested in modernizing the trains as tfl claims. That again, reminds me of the old and dirty trains in Berlin... The vandalism is just off-putting and the smells inside some trains make you prefer to walk...