sending my books to Bruxelles at a low cost

Miss Silver wrote:

Sorry to bother you but would you be so kind as to tell me how you manage to negotiate down to 170 dollars for 25kg with Fedex must I go and see them? Because for the moment I only checked on their website but it is still as expensive as the post office fees. Thanks again!

You can't get that rate.  To get that rate we ship around 350 packages a day.  It's all based on volume.

That's why in my first post I said your 6,600,000 quote was reasonable for an individual.  Why can't you take it as a second piece of luggage when you move?  Or even a third?  It would be cheaper than shipping, as Alex said above.

SteinNebraska wrote:

Unfortunately without a negotiated rate with a freight forwarder that price is about right for that much weight.  That is likely an air shipment using deferred delivery instead of priority.  Should be 10 days. 

My company used to pay $600 per box for 25kg for plastic resin for sampling molds with UPS going from US to VN.  Now with fedEx it is about $170 for the same package.  You are in the middle of that range.  We have a 71% discount with FedEx off of "walk in" rates.

$600 for 25kgs ? That is not a discojnted rate, whatever discount figure they told you they gave you is nowhere near that.

We shipped luggage sets with a volunetric weight of 380kgs from uk to China for £221, even with apoor exchange rate thats nowhere near what you was paying.

Jlgarbutt wrote:

SteinNebraska wrote:

Unfortunately without a negotiated rate with a freight forwarder that price is about right for that much weight.  That is likely an air shipment using deferred delivery instead of priority.  Should be 10 days. 

My company used to pay $600 per box for 25kg for plastic resin for sampling molds with UPS going from US to VN.  Now with fedEx it is about $170 for the same package.  You are in the middle of that range.  We have a 71% discount with FedEx off of "walk in" rates.

$600 for 25kgs ? That is not a discojnted rate, whatever discount figure they told you they gave you is nowhere near that.

We shipped luggage sets with a volunetric weight of 380kgs from uk to China for £221, even with apoor exchange rate thats nowhere near what you was paying.

I think you missed something.  It USED TO BE $600.  We now pay $170 for 25kg.  THAT is the discounted rate.  And, that rate is priority air shipping - 3 days from US to VN.  Ocean rates, yeah we pay a lot less than that.  500kg pallet is $300 USD.

Talking about ocean rates, strange thing this week.  We have been paying $3,500 for a 20' container, $3,900 for a 40' container VN to US for over a year.  Never changed a penny in 12 months.  This week it jumped to $4,750 for a 20' and $5,050 for a 40'.  Huge increase with no notice.  And, we ship at least a container a month so we aren't random shippers.

SteinNebraska wrote:

Jlgarbutt wrote:

SteinNebraska wrote:

Unfortunately without a negotiated rate with a freight forwarder that price is about right for that much weight.  That is likely an air shipment using deferred delivery instead of priority.  Should be 10 days. 

My company used to pay $600 per box for 25kg for plastic resin for sampling molds with UPS going from US to VN.  Now with fedEx it is about $170 for the same package.  You are in the middle of that range.  We have a 71% discount with FedEx off of "walk in" rates.

$600 for 25kgs ? That is not a discojnted rate, whatever discount figure they told you they gave you is nowhere near that.

We shipped luggage sets with a volunetric weight of 380kgs from uk to China for £221, even with apoor exchange rate thats nowhere near what you was paying.

I think you missed something.  It USED TO BE $600.  We now pay $170 for 25kg.  THAT is the discounted rate.  And, that rate is priority air shipping - 3 days from US to VN.  Ocean rates, yeah we pay a lot less than that.  500kg pallet is $300 USD.

Talking about ocean rates, strange thing this week.  We have been paying $3,500 for a 20' container, $3,900 for a 40' container VN to US for over a year.  Never changed a penny in 12 months.  This week it jumped to $4,750 for a 20' and $5,050 for a 40'.  Huge increase with no notice.  And, we ship at least a container a month so we aren't random shippers.

That seems quite a big jump for the container rates, Ill have a look though my messages on linkedin, i get tons of chinese agents sendine me rates for containers.

SteinNebraska wrote:

Ah, 375kg changes things.  Everything will have to be boxed and then strapped and shrink wrapped to a pallet.  The freight forwarder can do this part for you.  Generally when shipping LCL (Less than Container Load) I pay about $900-$1,000 US to ship one injection mold in a crate for a similar weight.  I don't know about time and cost to Europe.  Generally it is 8 weeks to US.  I don't have any contacts for freight fowarders that work with Europe.  I generally don't schedule the freight, my office back in US does.

I'm guessing whoever books your seafreight rates doesn't shop around. Typically a 40ft container from Asia to Europe is around 1200usd plus collection and delivery..

US seafreight rates are all conference rates where the big shipping lines agree on a standard shipping rate incase of overbooking Inna particular vessel or route they can afford to ship on a other vessel.

For movements here the agent will collect and load the cargo in an LCL container, it would be better to palletise the goods before before collection otherwise you may find they loose load the goods to maximise cargo.

Damco
Maersk
DSV
THI Vietnam

Just four names off the top of my head who are very reputable.

You will need to produce some form of packing list with values for the cargo, it doesn't have to be super accurate, and I believe books in Belgium are zero rated for import tax anyway.

Joss15 wrote:

Nobody will answer because both Maersk and DAMCO (which is a Maersk company) are not shippers but ship owners.
Damco we had used it when I worked for APM Terminals to transport large port cranes weighing 55 tons each, but they don't make packaging. Maersk does not deal with shipments, he is an owner of large container ships.
This is me: https://tinyurl.com/y87ru8rl

You think Damco dont operate LCL services ...? Every container service operator in the world does,

Joss15 wrote:

DAMCO does not make packaging, they, eventually manage FCL, LCL.
I know them from longtime.
https://ibb.co/yYV72WW

You shipped cranes..... we are talking about LCL cargo, not parcels like DHL and Fedex.

We are talking about shipping LCL cargo, not making packaging.

https://www.damco.com/en/services/ocean-freight/lcl/

Taken directly from their site, LCL consolidation services -

the action or process of combining a number of things into a single more effective or coherent whole.

Joss15 wrote:

you want to have the last word, keep it. Let's see how Ms. Silver manages to send her pack of books to Brussels.

It's not about having the last word at all, the facts are there on the companies own website.   

From you original comment about them not making packaging is correct but the shopper is not asking them to make packaging.

Take the time to read the post it helps a lot

Miss Silver wrote:

I have to leave Nha Trang to go to Bruxelles (Belgium EU) where obligations are calling me. Does anyone know of a way to send most of my belongings (I am a teacher so I have quite a few books which I use) at a lower cost than the 6.600.000 VND for 20kg the post is proposing? I don't need them right away so I don't mind if it takes a few months but I would like to send them before I leave which normally I hope to be able to do current August. Thanks for your help.

Ms Silver strange as it may sound contact your post office. They'll provide the service for you and the rates aren't to bad. Used them back in 1996 to ship a bunch of extra items back to the States after we retired here. They'll give you a quick estimate, do the wrapping and packing, pick-up and customs forms for mailing. You have to go see them first, don't try and do it with a email or phone call.

Rick