ECC how to Exit The Philippines

I am a 13A holder, Permanent Resident.
My daughter in the States, Tucson Arizona, has offered her home to me, it is my best alternative me.

But I'm confused about the ECC, do I need an ECC since I'm not planning to return to the Philippines. - @Enzyte Bob

Hope it all works out Bob. As for exit clearance certificate from memory as a 13a holder you will need to apply for an ECC B, Me as a tourist it's an ECC A. I'M sure you will find all the requirements online for your needs.

First time I got an ECC A it was the full Bio, fingerprints, photo etc but every time there after just the paperwork and pay the fee, on record I suppose. There is also a validated time period and can't remember if it's 3 or 30 days as well as your flight info. As for not returning, its an exit clearance to make sure your not wanted here.

Good luck with a new venture in your life mate and take care.

Cheers, Steve.

@bigpearl

Thanks Steve . . .

While I am on the subject of leaving is there such a thing of reverse balikbayan boxes? and what would be the approximate costs?

I would have more than two suitcases the airline allows.

Not that I've ever found Bob, talk to DHL or Fedex, alternatively look at the cost of excess baggage with your carrier. Sell your excess or give it away.

Big change after so many years here and dearly hope I'm never faced with such a prospect. I'd need another shipping container.

Happy searching.

Cheers, Steve.

@bigpearl

I was thinking if I could use a balikbayon box, I wouldn't have to lug two fifty pound bags (luggage) threw airports. I could travel light. I was thinking about reverse LBC, sending my clothes by ship.

FedEx or DHL is out of the question, FedEx charged me $50+ to deliver a letter avoiding PhilPost.

No idea the charges Bob and something you need to research with sea shipping, not air express.

It's interesting no one else has chimed in offering suggestions. Yeah let's not get into PhilPost.

I have no idea the quantity you would like to ship back to the states, Have you approached shipping companies for partial container loads?

Do you not have an available soul to help you in the airport moving your belongings (excess baggage) though won't help with a connecting flight, best a direct flight.

I'm sure you will work it out Bob, You have a laptop, jump online and in the mean time hope there is feedback from other members.

Cheers, Steve.

@bigpearl

I'm not taking much back, my clothes, two laptops, Hp printer, and one Telo v.o.i.p. with my stateside number.

So Bob why ask about reverse Balakbayan boxes? I offered my 2 bobs worth and now your saying your not taking much,,,,, ditch the printer as they are a dime a dozen and your daughter probably has 1 or 2 in her home. We gave a perfectly good printer to Bens family 14 years ago and it's sitting in a cupboard because once the ink ran out it got shelved. If this is your escape plan simply take what you really need and not the B/S you think you have to have.

Golly Bob if you can't sort this out yourself get your good son to help you. I'm sorry you are going through this with it seems little help from family.

Cheers, Steve.

@bigpearl

Do you not have an available soul to help you in the airport moving your belongings (excess baggage) though won't help with a connecting flight, best a direct flight.

No direct flights to Tucson. However there is a relatively new highly regarded Taiwanese carrier; Starlux Airlines which flies daily from Manila to Phoenix Arizona via Taipei. Their customer service is 2nd to none and I'm sure will do all they can to look after Bob as a senior citizen. Apparently their hot stewardesses (sorry bread rolls) are to die for.

@bigpearl

Steve you're right about that, I'm leaving everything behind. Just taking two suitcases of clothes. My daughter in the states is contacting the Embassy and my stepson in the states is checking the exiting requirements.

@Lotus Eater

Thanks Rockford . . . . That's a good suggestion. I read the CEO sometimes is the pilot.

@Enzyte Bob

Starlux fly to Phoenix 4 times a week from Taipei . Daily to Taipei from Manila. So using October 10 as an example: Leave Manila at 10.45AM. Arrive Taipei at 1PM (local time). 7 hour layover in Taipei departing for Phoenix at 8.10PM. Arriving Phoenix local time at 5.40 PM (same day). Flight time 12 hours. Drive time from Phoenix to Tucson 1hour 45 minutes.

One way fare: US$500 economy(cheap). Premier economy US $1200 (worth considering.) 23kg baggage hold  allowance plus 2 carry on bags.

" This is the Captain speaking. My day job is the CEO" 🤣

Two options, EEC-A, EEC-B

EEC-B is for temporary leaves and allows

re-entry, this you can apply for Online and at NAIA, mostly for 13a holders.

EEC-A is for permanently leaving and can only be applied for in person at Bureau of Immigration and more likely only at the Main.

This is the one you will need

@Lotus Eater

Thank you Rockford, the info is very helpful.

@vehicross100

That's good to know, I need the EEC-A.

Thanks

@Lotus Eater
Thank you Rockford, the info is very helpful. - @Enzyte Bob

You’re welcome. Beth Davenport my assistant did all the research

@Enzyte Bob

Yes, you need it, but it's a simple procedure (I've done it several times this past 12 months...as a fellow 13A holder).

At your departure airport, go to the cashier (desk next to/before Immigration) and tell the officer you wish to pay your ECC. Give the officer your passport and ACR1 card.  Charge will be 2 to 3000 pesos, for which you'll be given a receipt. Then proceed through Immigration.

I believe it's possible to do this at your local Immigration office, but I have always done it in person, at the airport, with no probs.

grahamw570 said . . . . Yes, you need it, but it's a simple procedure (I've done it several times this past 12 months...as a fellow 13A holder).
At your departure airport, go to the cashier (desk next to/before Immigration) and tell the officer you wish to pay your ECC. Give the officer your passport and ACR1 card. Charge will be 2 to 3000 pesos, for which you'll be given a receipt. Then proceed through Immigration.
I believe it's possible to do this at your local Immigration office, but I have always done it in person, at the airport, with no probs.

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As vehicross mention in post #13

EEC-A must be done at B.I. for those that are leaving.

What you have experienced is for EEC-B, for those that are returning.

So while obtaining information about EEC-A, has anyone used an agency for the EEC-A? I dread going through that "B.I. ZOO" again from past experiences.

Sorry, but you are wrong sir.  I have paid my ECC at both Clark and NAIA (T3) when leaving the Phils, on two occasions already this year. Referring to 13A holders here.

Perhaps you're confusing this procedure with eTravel... needed by all when entering/re-entering the country. 

I've been visiting/living in the Philippines for the past 36 years (retired here for the past 10), so not entirely a newbie. 👍

I always send my wife to the local BI office in Boracay. There is usually no one waiting in front and so it is done in less than 5 minutes. I always do it a few days before to make sure I have it when I need it. What if their computer at the airport fails?

I think there is another issue with you if you want to leave for good and you got a 13a visa. What I heard is that you need to cancel the 13a visa and replace it with a tourist visa.

Please update us here in the forum how it worked for you.

Greetings from Boracay

Andy

I can only quote from my own experience of travelling in and out of the country as a 13A visa holder...on 5 occasions during the past 12 months.

I would recommend those needing advice to consult the BI website. 👍

@grahamw570

My understanding, and if I'm wrong I'd be happy to be corrected, is that if you did indeed exit with an ECC-A that you'd need a tourist visa to reenter. Again, I might be totally wrong about that.

I don't live in the Philippines (Vietnam, 9 years) but I do follow the PH forum as I really do want to visit and take a peek-a-boo someday soon.

@ Enzyte Bob, is there a reason people who wish to permanently leave just don't do so under an ECC-B, and simply not return? Is it for security reasons (e.g. identity fraud against the foreigner)? Genuinely curious.

edit: I believe the certificate for emigration clearance is ECC, not EEC

I'm corrected it's ECC not EEC.

Now why would BI have an A and B?

So I imagine people leaving for good (ECC-A) could claim ECC-B to save red tape and money.

See this form on Google:

BI Form 2015-08-001B Rev 0

When it comes to BI my experience is that anything that can go wrong will go wrong.

I don't want some technicality or screw up causing me to waste money on an airline ticket that goes unused.

@grahamw570

If you reread the OP post you will understand that we are discussing a 13a holder who will be leaving permanently and perhaps to never return. To facilitate this a 13a holder must procure the ECC (A) to permanently leave.

As far as what you above are referring to is a 13a holder exiting and re-entering this country by obtaining the ECC (B) which allows re-entry multiple times through out the year while retaining the 13a Visa. There is a difference in what you are talking about and what the OP was asking.

We all (13a holders) me included, have left the country and re-entered numerous times throughout the year as you have stated by obtaining a ECC (b) at the Airport, Satellite or Online.

This is NOT what the OP was inquiring about.

The OP will be permanently leaving the Philippines and eventually lose his 13a visa status. To do this you must apply for the ECC(a)

in person at the Main or a satellite that processes this particular ECC before exiting the country for the final time as a 13a holder.

@Enzyte Bob

Does this song sound familiar?

"You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave" 1976 Eagles - Hotel California

Lotus Eater said . . . . Does this song sound familiar?

"You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave" 1976 Eagles - Hotel California

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Sounds like Star Trek, "The Royal" Season 2, Episode 12

Riker, Data & Worf beam down to a stand alone hotel & casino, "Royal", floating in space. They go through a revolving door and can't exit. The can't communicate and beam back to the Enterprise.

@Enzyte Bob

I've one major concern should I ever decide to return to Canada, being...

“You will never be completely at home again, because part of your heart will always be elsewhere. That’s the price you pay for the richness of loving and knowing people in more than one place”.

– Miriam Adeney

I hope all goes well for you, Bob.

@grahamw570The OP will be permanently leaving the Philippines and eventually lose his 13a visa status. To do this you must apply for the ECC(a)in person at the Main or a satellite that processes this particular ECC before exiting the country for the final time as a 13a holder. - @vehicross100

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Do you have a link to the source of this information please ?

Why would Immigration concern themselves with whether you're returning to the Phils or not anyway ?

@grahamw570The OP will be permanently leaving the Philippines and eventually lose his 13a visa status. To do this you must apply for the ECC(a)in person at the Main or a satellite that processes this particular ECC before exiting the country for the final time as a 13a holder. - @vehicross100

Do you have a link to the source of this information please ?

Who should apply for an Emigration Clearance Certificate?

ECC has two (2) types, ECC –A (also referred to as regular ECC and ECC-B.

The following foreign nationals must secure an ECC-A prior to their departure:

    Holders of Temporary Visitor Visa (also referred to as tourist visa) who have stayed in the Philippines for six (6) months or more;

    Holders of expired or downgraded Immigrant or Non-Immigrant Visas;

    Holders of valid Immigrant or Non-Immigrant Visas but are leaving for good;

    Philippine-born foreign nationals who will depart from the Philippines for the first time;

    Holders of Temporary Visitor Visa with Orders to Leave;

    Bona fide seafarers who have stayed in the Philippines for 30 days or more and has a duly approved discharge from BI.

ECC-B is issued to departing holders of Immigrant and Non-Immigrant visas with valid ACR I-Cards and are leaving the country temporarily.

source: select "Emigration Clearance Certificate (ECC)" left column of page.

From Google AI:

Why would Immigration concern themselves with whether you're returning to the Phils or not anyway ?  - @grahamw570

Again, Google AI:

Yes, Google AI, use it