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- @Bian_ca6661

@Bian_ca6661

Why don't you come down to Balatonalmadi? Kaptalanfured beach is really nice. There is always parking.

My husband was never a lake beach goer, since he always lived by the ocean. After 6 years of being here, last week we went for a swim. It was so nice!

If you decide to come, let us know, we can show you around.

The ice cream is outstanding in the center of town 😊

Livia, Jeff

- @Livia Kretsch

That's so sweet of you. I've heard the legends about the ice cream over there

It's hard to see how the policies of OV are sustainable in these difficult times.  Xenophobia and nationalism is a luxury that has to be paid for.

- @fluffy2560

It's hard to see how the policies of OV are sustainable in these difficult times.  Xenophobia and nationalism is a luxury that has to be paid for.

- @fluffy2560

I don't know about the winters in Hungary, I'm yet to experience it 1st hand. In case of low humidity and the temp around 20°C, I think the "not heating every class" could make some sense. I can only assume by my experience - if the air is humid in the wintertime it all feels dump and much colder. But what do I know

- @Bian_ca6661

UK has the concept of "inside coats" now. Kids will be wearing coats inside at home and at school.

UK has the concept of "inside coats" now. Kids will be wearing coats inside at home and at school.

- @fluffy2560

Why is that??

- @Bian_ca6661

UK has the concept of "inside coats" now. Kids will be wearing coats inside at home and at school.

- @fluffy2560

Why is that??

- @Bian_ca6661

Fuel costs too high to put the heating on while at home. Hence the idea of a coat to wear inside the house and a coat to wear outside.  It seems to be a developing idea.

In Hungary, if they close the schools and do home learning, the fuel cost will be on the parents. It's not clear to me how this will work when parents are working!

- @fluffy2560

The ground floor has 2 reception rooms dining room and a kitchen, then the 1st floor with 3 bedrooms. I hate to think about what is in the loft?

Coming to think about it, as much as the UK is in dire straights my dad is so very lucky in that he owns his own house and has a car that's on lease which payments are very low and has servicing included for free. Although at the age of 81 he still has his company and has interests with other things he can put petrol through the books.

He was very wise to put solar panels on the house and paid for them outright as effectively his electricity is free and gets money back because it is pumped back into the grid so that goes towards the gas. He lives in a 3 bedroom Bungalow so doesn't take much to look after. He is also invested well throughout his life with shares and different pensions. Also inheriting from somewhat wealthy relatives. An uncle that never married and lived in the family house that he was born in.

   

My Father inlaw is having to sell his car because he simply can not afford to run it and with the added costs of energy prices on the house.

His rent is very cheap which is a blessing as he has been in the house 50 years. But it's really a sad world we live in when a pensioner has to face this.

I dread the moment he will have to decide to move to a flat. You can imagine a house with 3 floors and the amount of stuff he has acquired.

The cellar has 4 or 5 rooms, mostly housing tools for different things, Woodwork, metalwork, his music room etc...

The ground floor has 2 reception rooms dining room and a kitchen, then the 1st floor with 3 bedrooms. I hate to think about what is in the loft?

Coming to think about it, as much as the UK is in dire straights my dad is so very lucky in that he owns his own house and has a car that's on lease which payments are very low and has servicing included for free. Although at the age of 81 he still has his company and has interests with other things he can put petrol through the books.

He was very wise to put solar panels on the house and paid for them outright as effectively his electricity is free and gets money back because it is pumped back into the grid so that goes towards the gas. He lives in a 3 bedroom Bungalow so doesn't take much to look after. He is also invested well throughout his life with shares and different pensions. Also inheriting from somewhat wealthy relatives. An uncle that never married and lived in the family house that he was born in.

And on my mother's side who were farmers that never passed the farm on, split 3 ways had a comfortable settlement.

- @SimCityAT

Fuel costs too high to put the heating on while at home. Hence the idea of a coat to wear inside the house and a coat to wear outside.  It seems to be a developing idea.

In Hungary, if they close the schools and do home learning, the fuel cost will be on the parents. It's not clear to me how this will work when parents are working!

- @fluffy2560

I still recall a day when I worked in hotel near by London, we had all prepared for a wedding of a sailor soldier, place was fully booked for the weekend. It started to snow heavily in the morning on Saturday, then regular blizzard, the buses stopped running, roads were blocked. Even I haven't seen anything like that, and I grew up under mountains with heavy and cold winters. The bride couldn't get to her groom from town to hotel, he couldn't get to her from hotel to chapel... they had to cancel the ceremony. Got drunk with his army friends instead,  they built a massive snowman in front of reception

But somehow i can't imagine how coats will help. What about gym class?

As for the online classes - We had the issue due to starting C19 when my then coworkers had to stay with their kids at home while educated online. Over half a year I had to replace 3 full workers in logistics. Not funny. Parents were crazy for not working, kids were crazy for no contact with their classmates, employers were crazy for shortage of staff. So i hope they could come up with better solution in the UK and Hungary as well

- @Bian_ca6661

But somehow i can't imagine how coats will help. What about gym class?

As for the online classes - We had the issue due to starting C19 when my then coworkers had to stay with their kids at home while educated online. Over half a year I had to replace 3 full workers in logistics. Not funny. Parents were crazy for not working, kids were crazy for no contact with their classmates, employers were crazy for shortage of staff. So i hope they could come up with better solution in the UK and Hungary as well

- @Bian_ca6661

I'm not really paying that much attention to the UK situation but I heard that's the trend.  I suppose people will be wearing more layers inside the house as temperatures get turned down.  Some reports (on the radio) that people are planning only to put the heating on when the kids are at home.   That means something like 21 C when they are at home and off otherwise.

The situation is more dire than simply going to the gym to keep warm for a few hours.  We're talking about sleeping, living, cooking in colder homes.   We've all heard about food banks but some towns are planning heat/warm banks.  These are going to be spaces which are heated for sharing some level of warmth. I find it incredible such a developed economy  like the UK has to make plans like that.   

The UK is currently a ship drifting with no-one at the helm.  Boris is permanently on holiday and the others are too busy gazing at their own navels while various crises smoulder on in the background.

As for here, there's no obvious plan to cope with huge fuel prices other than to close down schools and reduce public building usage.    Another case of being asleep at the wheel it seems.

- @fluffy2560

Must admit I haven't heard about this indoor coat phenomenon in the UK; that said, when it's cold, I tend to put a jumper on rather than the heating, however, I tend to wear jumpers indoors that are past their sell-by date as far as Mrs C is concerned, but I'm pretty certain they still provide their primary function.  I think the only time I've ever worn a coat indoors was when I was doing my Artic warfare training many years ago (and that was inside a snow hole).

- @Cynic

And on my mother's side who were farmers that never passed the farm on, split 3 ways had a comfortable settlement.

- @SimCityAT

The house is absolutely gorgeous. Nothing says England as this type of houses. I'd be devastated myself having to move from such house to a flat. It must be even harder on older people who spent their lives in there. I know how much my parents are attached to their house that they built brick by brick

- @Bian_ca6661

My Father inlaw is having to sell his car because he simply can not afford to run it and with the added costs of energy prices on the house.

His rent is very cheap which is a blessing as he has been in the house 50 years. But it's really a sad world we live in when a pensioner has to face this.

I dread the moment he will have to decide to move to a flat. You can imagine a house with 3 floors and the amount of stuff he has acquired.

The cellar has 4 or 5 rooms, mostly housing tools for different things, Woodwork, metalwork, his music room etc...

The ground floor has 2 reception rooms dining room and a kitchen, then the 1st floor with 3 bedrooms. I hate to think about what is in the loft?
- @SimCityAT

I'm not really paying that much attention to the UK situation but I heard that's the trend.  I suppose people will be wearing more layers inside the house as temperatures get turned down.  Some reports (on the radio) that people are planning only to put the heating on when the kids are at home.   That means something like 21 C when they are at home and off otherwise.

The situation is more dire than simply going to the gym to keep warm for a few hours.  We're talking about sleeping, living, cooking in colder homes.   We've all heard about food banks but some towns are planning heat/warm banks.  These are going to be spaces which are heated for sharing some level of warmth. I find it incredible such a developed economy  like the UK has to make plans like that.   

The UK is currently a ship drifting with no-one at the helm.  Boris is permanently on holiday and the others are too busy gazing at their own navels while various crises smoulder on in the background.

As for here, there's no obvious plan to cope with huge fuel prices other than to close down schools and reduce public building usage.    Another case of being asleep at the wheel it seems.

- @fluffy2560

@Bian_ca6661

My dad's brother did try to buy the house, but was just unable to due to taxes. Such a shame as it dates back to 1600's and was the post office, bakery and other things.

If it was on the property market now, it would be close to 1 million pounds.

- @SimCityAT

It sounds sad. Seems like there's almost no one unaffected (is that a word?)

Kids have troubles getting to school, parents have issues to provide for kids, seniors must sell their beloved houses... I hope there will be enough psychiatrists in the future

- @Bian_ca6661

Must admit I haven't heard about this indoor coat phenomenon in the UK; that said, when it's cold, I tend to put a jumper on rather than the heating, however, I tend to wear jumpers indoors that are past their sell-by date as far as Mrs C is concerned, but I'm pretty certain they still provide their primary function.  I think the only time I've ever worn a coat indoors was when I was doing my Artic warfare training many years ago (and that was inside a snow hole).

- @Cynic

Yes, I heard this indoor coat thing on LBC radio.    These are people on the margins, like single parents with kids and on minimum wage jobs.

I put on a fleece or hoodie inside but we're hopeless at trying to manage our energy usage and our crazy and unnecessary recycling problems.  Our plastics bin is full up and overflowing by the time it's collection time.  It's all plastic bottles.   I am trying to encourage fewer bottles but it's not working.   Our lad never  turns the lights off - it's starting to be a problem telling him to separate his rubbish and to switch off.   We do have very high levels of insulation, triple glazing and heat pumps.  Now we're considering solar panels.  So rather than cut back, we're just looking at alternatives to maintain our level of usage.  But we're lucky we can even think about it.  We should be more proactive.

I was at OBI (like B&Q) the other day and about 1.2m3 of chopped  and dried wood was like 120K HUF (~300 EUR) whereas only about a year or so ago it was less than 60K HUF (~150 EUR).    Looks like the only direction on price is up.

I believe firewood here was mainly imported from Ukraine. Government has decided to start chopping more forest - protest report here. It's kind of interesting this is  party political position which OV cannot blame on external parties.  Soros and the EU haven't increased energy prices - his mate Putler has.

- @fluffy2560

Aha - LBC - yeah, that makes sense.  So people who can't afford to heat their homes can afford to buy new coats for the whole family to wear indoors?  The only place I can find any reference to it is on Mumsnet, where they have also invented the Coatigan (where they have repurposed a coat into a cardigan, and a shawl and jacket into a Shacket) - amazing.  I'll stick to my old jumper with the name allocated by the Mum who matters (bloody old thing - the jumper, not the Mum).

Woodburning has become a burning (he he) issue in the UK, primarily for environmental reasons related to burning wood and we now have less than scrupulous dealers cutting up old furniture and house fittings and selling them as firewood, then people wonder why they are having lung problems when they start burning the old paint and varnish that this wood is soaked in; also people have started their own little wood cuttings businesses, basically just going into the local wood/forest, cutting down a tree and then flogging it without drying it and the PCM figures are going through the roof.  It's so uncertain that my daughter couldn't have a chimney on her new build house.  In London where this is causing big problems, 31% of the PCM found in the air has come from wood-burning stoves; hopefully, they sort it out soon.  Our village is an ex-mining village and all the ex-miners still get free coal, it's causing some fuss as you have miners who want to pass on their free coal to sons/daughters who can't get a chimney added to their house.  Our Aldi has been selling approved wood for some time now - I shall have to take a look and see where it comes from.

- @Cynic

It sounds sad. Seems like there's almost no one unaffected (is that a word?)

Kids have troubles getting to school, parents have issues to provide for kids, seniors must sell their beloved houses... I hope there will be enough psychiatrists in the future

- @Bian_ca6661

Yes, it's horrible and indeed the phrase is that no-one except the rich are unaffected.  Of course they have the means to spend their way through the energy crisis.  They can afford electric cars etc.   

It's more or less always been the case in the UK that older age people have to sell their houses to fund their retirements or their dementia. Usually it ends up with downsizing but on the other hand, some houses are worth substantial amounts.  Not the same here where there is relatively low house price inflation.

Over there in the UK, what I've never understood is why dementia care is not considered an illness which would be taken care of the "free" health care system.  But here is the same, there's no help for dementia or just old age.  They have to go to dormitory style homes paid out of their pensions - depending on their wealth.  In the meantime, until they get too difficult to handle, care falls on their relatives.

- @fluffy2560

PCM = Pollution Climate Modelling?

I know what you mean about LBC but on the other hand, callers aren't edited and say their piece mostly without interference. I didn't know there were coatigans and shackets.   Good to put a name on it.  My eldest recently informed my ponchos are the in thing when swimming.  Looks very comfy after being in the water.

Burning old furniture is a serious problem.  My elderly neighbour is chopping up old pallets which is almost as bad. He's got mental problems and would probably have a panic attack or breakdown if anyone questions him about what he's doing for the environment.  He's cutting them up with a hand saw rather than using a chain saw or an axe.  It might be he's got less chance of hurting himself using a hand saw.

Hereabouts, it's quite easy to collect wood from the forest - it's just lying about.  But then again, it's managed forests and not just waste for the taking.  They leave some of it rotting to maintain the environment for the bugs/animals etc.   They stack up cut wood up for a good two years before taking it away. 

Using freshly cut trees is going to be a problem - all that evaporated sap will eventually set fire to the chimney.  Temperatures won't be high enough to be efficient and all the heat will go into drying out the wood inside the wood burner.   We have  meter (from Aldi) which tells us the water content of wood.  It has different settings for different wood types.

I doubt Aldi wood will come from Ukraine.  Over here of course, Aldi would not be the place to go for wood. it would come by truck or one of the DIY retailers or wood sellers advertising. You used to see adverts to buy like 10 pallets (10 tonnes) of Ukrainian wood with a certain water content.  All gone now, never see it now.  Winter with occasional wood and mainly gas heating used to mean using 4 tonnes. A wood only winter would be probably upwards of 10 tonnes.  Substantial stuff. 

- @fluffy2560

I like LBC, especially James...

In other news, I have a question for anyone following the UK PM contest.

A few weeks ago when there was a field of 5+ candidates, Sunak was the leader by a good margin.  I've seen excerpts of a couple of the debates and he seems very knowledgeable and polished. Liz Truss seemed at best unsure of her facts and at best delusional at times.

However, I see Truss now has a commanding lead.

Why?
What happened?

- @Vicces1

My spouse got a day off today so we went to swimming pool near by our place. It was bit crowded in the hot pools, not so much in the swimming pool so we had a blast swimming the lengths. But as the place got more crowded around lunchtime, some weirdos showed up. I could make my peace with bunch of hunks standing in the swimming pool and chatting, although blocking half a line... but what was the matter with one couple almost making out in front of the children there...Geeez, get a room. Later on 2 boys showed up with plastic boat and remote control and navigated it around the swimmers while (I suppose) mother kept taking pictures or videos of them. I was kinda hyped up and considering saying something as there were other kids jumping into water and swimmers with heads under water, poking an eye out on some stupid plastic toy would be truly brilliant... but then an older gentleman swam to them and kindly talked to them so they removed the boat. Sitting in the thermal bath I watched some people with their noses stuck to their cell phones which is another thing that I can't get my head around but to each their own.

All in all it was nice day, but some people never cease to surprise me. Well I guess that's the charm

- @Bian_ca6661

Do they add something in the water here.. or is it the heat?

https://dailynewshungary.com/video-mass … -budapest/

- @Bian_ca6661

Wow, sister, I thought for a moment I had written this post!!

We also experience some insanity at the pool after noon time.
I make sure we hit the water by  opening hour.

Stake our ground and do most of my laps before they close them to reserved lanes.

I'm serious why not give us a discount since it is false advertizing about how many lap lanes etc. they have.

The other day I was turned away 2 times in an empty wave pool because they were going to start surfing lessons.

I was getting mad because I enjoy messing around between wave times to practice my swim strokes. Hate to practice new strokes in the lap lane.

I'm guessing maybe you went to Paskal pool? Not sure but we quit going to that place because they closed more laps lanes to the public then they left open. Women in full face makeup and over muscled dudes with tats blocking the way into and out of the water. Dangling feet at every turn of a lap.

I swear I was ready to purchase a country home this year just to put in my own pool, don't care if the place is a shack as long as I can put in a pool.

Good thing my husband has a cooler head then I do.

Well, soon enough school will start and we hopefully will have a few weeks of nice weather to enjoy the pools without thinking we are in a zoo.

We used to have a nice built in pool in our house in Ca. As it goes, we didn't use it as much as we could have, just knowing it was there was enough.

All would be fine here if people knew their limits, If you can't swim laps then stay out of the lap pool. If you want to bring a boat then buy yourself a house on the lake.

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- @Marilyn Tassy

What I noticed that almost no one followed the signs about showering before entering the hot pools. We lasted about 5 hours, then left. It wasn't all that bad,  we managed to cool a bit on a hot day. I suppose it would be better on less crowded day. But i guess we can't have it all at once

I like LBC, especially James...

- @Vicces1

Exactly so,they should reserve these swim, surfing and God knows whatever classes they can dream up to make a buck to before opening hours or afterwards, late afternoon would work out too.

Our first time ever at Paskal pool years ago was very sad.

With all those idiots, camping day care children etc. a 8 year old girl drowned in a crowded pool and no one noticed!!

- @Marilyn Tassy

I like LBC, especially James...

In other news, I have a question for anyone following the UK PM contest.

A few weeks ago when there was a field of 5+ candidates, Sunak was the leader by a good margin.  I've seen excerpts of a couple of the debates and he seems very knowledgeable and polished. Liz Truss seemed at best unsure of her facts and at best delusional at times.

However, I see Truss now has a commanding lead.

Why?
What happened?

- @Vicces1

Sunak was only ever in the lead amongst the Parliamentary group of Conservative MP's; but they don't have the final say, this is in the hands of the Conservative Party members; they have never seemed to support Sunak.

To add - I just read elsewhere that there is a secret group of overseas Conservative party members who will ride in and save the day for Sunak.  Were that to happen, I suspect that would be the end of the Conservative party as we know it.

- @Cynic

If you want to bring a boat then buy yourself a house on the lake.

- @Marilyn Tassy

I don't know enough about US election law to say if Donny does time for Georgia election fraud/interference whether he can still run for President. Sounds implausible he could run from behind bars with a 7 year sentence. 

- @fluffy2560

I don't know enough about US election law to say if Donny does time for Georgia election fraud/interference whether he can still run for President. Sounds implausible he could run from behind bars with a 7 year sentence. 

- @fluffy2560

It seems Rudy Guiliani is being set up to either 1) take the fall for tRump (likely) or 2) become a stool pigeon for tRump (unlikely).  The grand jury investigation is now focused on Rudy.

There are still several other efforts going on:

1. The raid on his Mar-A-Lago home was not ONLY about document retrieval. There are 3 federal codes broken and they are independent of whether that material was classified or not. Any information retrieved during the retrieval is lawfully available to other investigations. In other words, if the warrant was for the retrieval of nuclear secrets, but in the file was an admittance of a financial crime, that financial crime information is lawfully available to any investigation focused on those financial crimes, even though the warrant was for something else. Or another way to look at it, if the FBI went in looking for documents and found Don Jr's cocaine drug stash, they are legally able to prosecute Don Jr for that.

2. New York State and the NY District of Lower Manhattan both have cases pending, though the Lower Manhattan DA looks to be a tRump supporter and is very much dragging feet. So much so that the 2 lead prosecuting attorneys both dropped the case a few months ago in protest.

3. Electoral College Fraud -- this may go against tRump's supporters more than him

4. Jan 6 committee - With Liz Cheney out in November, we'll need some action soon!)

More on his "challenges" and lack of accountability: https://www.justsecurity.org/75032/liti … ald-trump/

- @Vicces1

It is now a given, they say. No longer if, but when. In the media and among those who know, or who claim to, it is clear. Donald Trump is back, or about to be as a presidential candidate. Brace yourselves.