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mselci

Hello everybody,


I have a question regarding job seeker visa. I am currently waiting for appointment date with the embassy and doing preparetion same time. I am currently working with a German company remotely, would that cause a problem with embassy? They might be saying "hey it's possible to work online with your job, you don't need to live in Germany".


How i can explain this open and well in order to get job seeker visa and avoid possible problems?


Thank you

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TominStuttgart

Hello everybody,
I have a question regarding job seeker visa. I am currently waiting for appointment date with the embassy and doing preparetion same time. I am currently working with a German company remotely, would that cause a problem with embassy? They might be saying "hey it's possible to work online with your job, you don't need to live in Germany".

How i can explain this open and well in order to get job seeker visa and avoid possible problems?

Thank you
-@mselci


No, this should not be a problem. But one might ask if this company isn't able to recruit you to Germany if they are satisfied with your work. But one should look at some of that many other threads concerning job seeker visas. My view is that they are often a waste of time, effort and money since one can easier look for jobs online these days.

mselci

@TominStuttgart Sponsorship etc. are really a big efford for the companies, their first choice is always someone who already lives in Germany, or in EU borders.  Once you live in Germany with work-visa, you are noticable for companies.


If Embassy don't care that I am already working remote for German companies, that's fine for me. I can even contunie working while looking for jobs there.

TominStuttgart

@mselci I know how it works. But a job seeker visa is the hardest to qualify for and often a waste of time. Hoping to get a job as a foreigner is always more difficult than for a local. Certainly a company you are already working for would likely offer a better chance than a completely unknown employer. Certainly worth inquiring at least. If they don’t want you then it might say something about the skills you are potentially offering.

mselci

        @mselci I know how it works. But a job seeker visa is the hardest to qualify for and often a waste of time. Hoping to get a job as a foreigner is always more difficult than for a local. Certainly a company you are already working for would likely offer a better chance than a completely unknown employer. Certainly worth inquiring at least. If they don’t want you then it might say something about the skills you are potentially offering.

        -@TominStuttgart

@TominStuttgart

You're right actualy, I had almost got the job in last step with two different companies. I could have taken the job. But still, my existance in Germany could help somehow.

The companies i work didn't hire me because of workload and cheap labour. I am cheaper here, If they hire me there, I will cost 3x more.

I have anoher question, I have freiberuflicher contrac, so if Embassy checks, they won't see the companies in social securit system but I wrote them in my CV. Would they think that I am lying? Shall I mention both of companies  that I work Freelance? One of them has an office located here, I start there full time 2 weeks later, I am freelancer now, my appointment with the embassy is tomorrow. It seems little bit confused to me. I wrote just normal full-time in my cv.


I choosed Stuttgart because the company I work is in Automotive industry so I wanna use this opportunity, I could maybe find a chance in this sector.

beppi

@mselci If you were not employed, but freelancing, you should not claim in your CV that you were employed. That would be fraud and reason for no-notice termination if the employer finds out.

Such things are taken very seriously in Germany!

TominStuttgart


    @mselci If you were not employed, but freelancing, you shouldnot claim in your CV that you were employed. That would be fraud and reason for no-notice terminationif the employer finds out.
Such things are taken very seriously in Germany!
   

    -@beppi


I agree that misrepresenting a freelance occupation with employment is a serious matter. There are many rules about each status. And employers are responsible to pay for half of one's social security payments/health care costs. This is then missing from the books and the question is if the freelancer properly reported and paid. Or is the person really considered an employee and the company didn't properly pay. If a freelancer has only one client they work for then they will legally be considered an employee but the company might fight about it since they have more costs, also including providing paid vacation.

mselci

@TominStuttgart


So if I mention them as Freelancer Work, that would not be a problem at embassy?

TominStuttgart


    @TominStuttgartSo if I mention them as Freelancer Work, that would not be a problem at embassy?        -@mselci

One cannot lie but telling the truth doesn't mean one won't have trouble if one did do things illegally. Were you even allowed to work freelance? And they would ask about any discrepancies about who you actually worked for and if things were done properly with tax reporting. If freelancing was allowed, then one can of course mention their clients, but make it clear that they were not employers but contract partners on a freelance basis.

mselci

@TominStuttgart


I am allowed to work as freelancer of course. I think the embassy can not control things about tax, etc. Its not their job. I have contracts for both companies so nothing illegal. I am just trying to avoid possible misunderstandings and problems.

mselci


    @mselci I know how it works. But a job seeker visa is the hardest to qualify for and often a waste of time. Hoping to get a job as a foreigner is always more difficult than for a local. Certainly a company you are already working for would likely offer a better chance than a completely unknown employer. Certainly worth inquiring at least. If they don’t want you then it might say something about the skills you are potentially offering.
   

    -@TominStuttgart


After reading this message, i got a message from a Software Engineer friend, who lives since 3 Months in Germany with Job-Seeker Visa. He still couldn't find any job and hopeless. Disappointing.

beppi

@mselci Three months is not enough for a thorough job search in Germany - most people need 6 - 12 months!

But as a software engineer (which is a sought-after profession), your friend must have some serious flaw. Obsolete IT skills perhaps, or (most likely) missing German language skills?

mselci

@beppi

Yes missing German skills. He said he is lacking at German.

I have also B1 but I speak fluently and fast like B2. I have advantage in this case. Plus, I had almost got a job in my home country 2 times. That's why I think it would be better, appying in Germany, and attend interviews in person.

I wrote my work emails in my CV, so that embassy can check and see I really work in these companies.