Menu
Expat.com
Search
Magazine
Search

USA Decertifies Colombia in the War on Drugs

cccmedia

The move to decertify is seen as a symbolic gesture

as it carries no sweeping sanctions.


Colombia is first worldwide in cocaine production.


The USA no longer considers the country as a

partner in anti-cocaine trafficking, seen as

falling short in its efforts to curb production of

illegal drugs.


Donald Trump put out a message criticizing the

Colombian president, with Presidente Petro

firing back that demand in the USA is the primary

reason that cocaine production is up.  Production

of cocaine rose 50 percent in 2022-23, the last

period for which such statistics are available.



Source... Associated Press, NPR and other news outlets

See also

Living in Colombia: the expat guideI left the USA by bus in 2016. No passport, No cell phone. Only $450.Trying to get citizenship and another countryUnion libreManaging meals in ColombiaBest cell phone plans for receiving 2FA in Colombia and keep US numberSafety from Scopolomine - bank accounts - phone apps - passwords
ChineduOpara

If the USA truly wanted to stop the drug trade, it would do so within 3-6 months. There would be social upheavals and violence, but addicts could get rehab, and the country would get BETTER.


If the Colombian economy didn't rely so heavily on the drug trade, they would shut it down within a year or less. There would be a LOT of bloodshed, but it would happen, and the country would recover and be BETTER.


Considering all the side-businesses that benefit from the drug trade (and the weak attempts to curb it), Illegal drugs are big business for all involved, and it's an open secret that the "War On Drugs" is a big joke.


So, this decertification news is a nothing-burger... it's all Performative Politics.


Nothing to see here, carry on...

CIA_Map_of_International_illegal_drug_connections.gif

OsageArcher

If the USA truly wanted to stop the drug trade, it would do so within 3-6 months...If the Colombian economy didn't rely so heavily on the drug trade, they would shut it down within a year or less. - @ChineduOpara


It's just not that simple.  We truly want to stop murders, and lesser crimes too - but they still continue, in both countries.

Many factors mitigate against stopping drug crime (as well as other crime). 


For instance, geography.  Vast areas of Colombia are virtually inaccessible and virtually undetectable for growing and processing the coca plant, and other drug processing.  Vast border areas of the USA are literally wide-open and undefended.

For instance, corruption.  Vast sums of money are used to ensure safe passage.  If narcos pay you $1000 USD weekly just to look the other way, and the choice is either that, or torture your family and then a bullet in the head for you, which will you choose? ¿Plata o plomo? as the expression goes...

For instance, consumer demand.  What people want and are willing to pay good money for, someone will find a way to supply it, legal or not.


If you wish to prosecute a war on drugs, you must do so on all fronts - but one of the most effective strategies, although difficult, is eliminating the problem at the source.  It is easier and makes more sense to treat an infection at its source rather than try to treat it after it has spread everywhere.  De-certification is an attempt by the USA to get President Petro to do something along those lines, with help from the USA.  Given his links to the guerillas and the drug trade, it's not certain how much effect de-certification will have, but it's worth a try.

ChineduOpara

@OsageArcher

Good explainer, and yeah you're basically 100% right about the difficulties with stopping the drug trade by attacking the source and process (supply-side).


However, your point about fixing things on the "demand side" actually supports what I was saying: If the USA and parts of Europe truly wanted to shut down (or massively reduce) demand for illegal substances, we could do it within - let me be realistic - 5 years TOPS.


But we choose not to.


We have the technology and information. We once put a man on the moon. We can land rockets BACK on the planet and reuse them. We can (and did) shut down borders during the pandemic. Our medical research abilities are world-class. We produced an effective vaccine within an imaginably short time. We CAN do gene editing. We are on the verge of full-on AI-powered "companion droids". Quantum computing isn't that far away either.


We - the collective "we", led (and barely represented) by corrupt politicians and their billionaire owners - can surely end the drug trade IF WE TRULY WANTED TO.


But we choose not to.


And you know why. You know.

teacherincolombia36

@cccmedia

According to the Colombian government that is not true. President Petro says the opposite. He says that in his government more cocaine than ever has been seized.

ChineduOpara

@cccmedia
According to the Colombian government that is not true. President Petro says the opposite. He says that in his government more cocaine than ever has been seized. - @teacherincolombia36

Yeah, because under his administration MORE cocaine has been produced and distributed... basically at levels equal to the ones from earlier.

teacherincolombia36

@ChineduOpara

How do you know?

Fred

The solution is simple.

Immediate, post-trial execution for all drug dealers regardless of the quantity of illegal drugs they have.

The vast majority of the rest will stop pretty quick, sp the producers will lose their distribution network.

nico peligro

@Fred

Wont  happen in the states or Europe, Canada,Australia because of constitution, existing   laws   lawyers, judges

Why do you think Trump is blowng things up in internatnional waters?


Way  harder to impose   international laws. Rule of the seas.

nico peligro

@teacherincolombia36

Well published statistics. This has been thoroughly documented in al the major news sources, for example the Wall Street Journal.

Actually cocaine production levels are much higher than the Pablo   Escobar years.

ChineduOpara

@ChineduOpara
How do you know? - @teacherincolombia36

Well, full disclosure, I don't know the facts "on the ground" (because I am not involved in the drug trade). I read one article, and watched one brief news story about it on a trusted non-MSM news source, and that's what they were saying about the once-again-rising activity and volume 🤷🏾‍♀️

ChineduOpara

@Fred
Wont happen in the states or Europe, Canada,Australia because of constitution, existing laws lawyers, judges
Why do you think Trump is blowng things up in internatnional waters?
Way harder to impose international laws. Rule of the seas. - @nico peligro


The USA has stopped treating illegal drug traders as merely "criminals" (pursued by the DEA and hamstrung by "normal, civilized" legal proceedings that often allow the perps to evade justice), and has started treating them as enemy combatants (pursued by the US Armed Forces, not treated with kids gloves, but taken out on-the-spot, even if there is a risk of some collateral damage AKA civilians).


I support this. The DEA is just a jobs program and money pit, while the US Armed Forces is basically a globally unbeatable Force of Nature. I support this new LITERAL war on drugs.


On a side note: To people who know me personally, this might sound terrible and a pure betrayal of everything I that I know about myself and everything I stand for... but IMHO, Trump (and his posse) are doing SOME good things. A few of them have to do with Family Courts. Another one of them is what I described above (treating drug cartels as enemy combatants). Whatever my political beliefs, I cannot in good conscience deny when an administration is (intentionally or unintentionally) doing something GOOD.


"Even a broken clock is right twice a day"


(Sorry for the brief dip into politics...)