Retirement Visa for Brazil

abthree wrote:

06/20/21

Viajanete,

Such wonderful news  - congratulations!   You really did everything right, starting with your planning upfront, and it paid off.

The most readily available vaccine in Brazil right now seems to be the Oxford/AstraZeneca from Fiocruz.  Almost all of our family members who qualified so far have had it.  Two of us had minor reactions to the first shot, that were gone the next day; none of us had reactions to the second shot.  If that's what's offered where you are, I'd recommend it.

I don't think that Moderna even requested approval in Brazil.  Pfizer is supposed to be on the way; I don't know locations or quantities.

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The Pfizer vaccine is now all around Sao Paulo and should be readily available to those currently qualifying and wanting it. I'm sorry, but have no knowledge about medicine in the other states.

Texanbrazil wrote:

I cannot figure the schedule.

It's not you, Tex, it's the schedule:   it seems to change every time that vaccine availability does.  Everyone I know here got their second shot "early":  vaccines began arriving more quickly.  I hope that trend continues.  🤞

Texanbrazil wrote:

You can apply upon arrival for a cpf

Been trying to get one for some time. Recetia federal tells me go do it online. Online says go recetia federal. Been a long annoying process lol

Mikeflanagan wrote:

Been trying to get one for some time. Recetia federal tells me go do it online. Online says go recetia federal. Been a long annoying process lol

That's weird.  Try the Post Office.

Mikeflanagan wrote:

Texanbrazil wrote:

You can apply upon arrival for a cpf

Been trying to get one for some time. Recetia federal tells me go do it online. Online says go recetia federal. Been a long annoying process lol

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Got my original through the Consulate in San Francisco, It was super easy and very fast to get.  Later, when I was in Brazil, I discovered an error on it, from,m the Consulate.  The PF in Spo when NUTS when I went there and showed them the Consulates error.  In retrospect, I should never have said anything.

Viajanete wrote:

Just a quick check-in / update...
I've now been in Brazil on my retiree visa since March 10. Things have gone amazingly smoothly.

@Viajanete Do you mind summarizing how you applied for the retirement visa? Do you have a pension or social security income? Or was it on the basis of assets or other income?

abthree wrote:

12/14/21

guerneca

Brazilian Consulates are using VITEM XIV (Immigration Policy) for retirement visas, since the old Retirement Visa was abolished in 2017.  Not every Consulate has updated its website for it, but you're in luck:  San Francisco has.  Here's their summary:

https://sistemas.mre.gov.br/kitweb/data … %20XIV.pdf

Thanks for digging this up! The tricky/confusing part is this:

- Proof of retirement and ability to transfer monthly to Brazil the amount equal to or greater than US$2,000.00 (must enclose official letter from bank, signed by applicant’s account manager, informing that bank will be able to transfer monthly the amount equal or greater than US$ 2,000.00 to applicant’s bank account in Brazil)
- Proof of receipt of monthly pension for death in the amount equal to or greater than US$ 2,000.00, if applicable;
- If necessary, proof of other regular sources of income to complement the amount of US$ 2,000.00

How does one provide "proof of retirement" --- as mentioned previously, the age requirement has been removed from this, so how can this be proven? And the other stuff like a pension which doesn't apply to everyone. I'm also unclear how a bank can provide a letter stating they can transfer $2000 per month to the applicant's account. Doesn't make sense because the applicant has to transfer the funds. The bank is not allowed to do so.

guerneca wrote:

Thanks for digging this up! The tricky/confusing part is this:

- Proof of retirement and ability to transfer monthly to Brazil the amount equal to or greater than US$2,000.00 (must enclose official letter from bank, signed by applicant’s account manager, informing that bank will be able to transfer monthly the amount equal or greater than US$ 2,000.00 to applicant’s bank account in Brazil)
- Proof of receipt of monthly pension for death in the amount equal to or greater than US$ 2,000.00, if applicable;
- If necessary, proof of other regular sources of income to complement the amount of US$ 2,000.00

How does one provide "proof of retirement" --- as mentioned previously, the age requirement has been removed from this, so how can this be proven? And the other stuff like a pension which doesn't apply to everyone. I'm also unclear how a bank can provide a letter stating they can transfer $2000 per month to the applicant's account. Doesn't make sense because the applicant has to transfer the funds. The bank is not allowed to do so.

There's a delicate art to reading Brazilian regulations  thoroughly without reading too much into them. 

Proof of Retirement:  If you have retired from a company, a copy of the cover letter from your retirement package should suffice.  If you've been self-employed, a notarized letter from your attorney (if you've rolled up a S-Corp, for example) or from your accountant saying that you've wrapped up the operations of your business in the US and retired should do the trick.  There are probably other ways, as well, but those are two that immediately spring to mind for me.

The Consulate keeps the information on all Notaries Public in its region on file.  Giving them notarized documents gives them something official-looking, and something to check.

Proof of Income:  if you're already collecting, your Social Security Benefit letter is the gold standard.  If you are receiving any defined-benefit pensions or annuities, you should have a letter that you received when they began paying out that should serve.  If your only income is income from investments, you'll need to be a little more creative, but probably can cook something up with your accountant or financial advisor.  Keep in mind that you don't have to prove all of your income, just enough to comfortably put you over the $2000 threshold.  You always want to answer questions from Brazilian authorities honestly, but you're under no obligation to volunteer information not asked for, and should do it very carefully.

As for transfers, you should definitely be planning on maintaining a banking relationship in the US after you relocate.  It will probably be one you already have, so this should not be a problem.  A letter from the bank signed by your Branch Manager (s/he may even appreciate it if you write it!) stating that your monthly deposits are $2000 or over, and that the bank is prepared to transfer that amount monthly, or any other amount you direct,  to your Brazilian bank account on your instructions, notarized, of course, should satisfy that requirement nicely.

Texanbrazil wrote:

How do these posts have to do with obtaining a retirement visa?
If we stay on topic it helps many. You can always start new questions for discussions.

sounds like someones fishing, because its almost every post right xD

mooseheadlaw wrote:

so I meet that requirement with two pensions, but is that for a married couple or 2k for each spouse? We are both sixty but I'm the only one collecting pension right now.

US$2000 covers you and your spouse.   If you have additional dependents who qualify for Brazilian residency as part of your household,  e.g., aged parents, minor children, disabled adult children dependent on you for support, the requirement is higher.   Guidance should be available on the Consulate website.   If your local Consulate hasn't updated their information, check others.  Last time I looked, Chicago and San Francisco were up to date.

On your other question, you have to prove that you can bring US$2000 into Brazil every month.  If you find once you're here that you can live comfortably on less, you're not required to transfer that much every month, but to qualify for the visa, you are required to show that you have that much available to transfer every month.