What if You Don't Make It In 60 Days!

Hi @roddiesho

Do you have any written reference for what exactly this 60 days is about? What do you have to do when arrive back in Brazil?

Will you be visiting the Brazilian Consulate for a visa or for another procedure?

    This was unthinkable at the start, but if the Brazilian Government gives you 60 days to return to your country (USA) for documents including an appointment with the Brazilian Consulate and it may not happen in 60days, Then What! I paid my Overdue Fee and immediately ran off to the USA.My apostilled FBI Background Check has already completed its projected 4–6-week turnaround and is now in Brazil at my house, Meanwhile I am struggling to get the appointment with the Brazilian Consulate. We now have an expert advisor and things are looking up, but I came in on February 7th, so I am guessing I have until April 7th.Roddie in Retirment-@roddiesho

@roddiesho, I am not sure what the 60 days are about - that's probably a technicality in a document somewhere.  However, I had the same experience booking an apt with the Brazilian consulate too for something trivial like applying for a CPF.  The application was made online and had a specific requirement to have an appearance in front of an official within 15 days of signature of the application form.  Well, I submitted the form online the same day that I signed.  I got confirmation that they received the form on day 15 and I was given a choice of a consular apt for something like day 45 after initial signature - which was way beyond what was on the application form.

I suspect that this will be the same with you.  The 60 days may refer to the date at which you last made contact online...

Since you have an expert working with you, this is something that you can get clarification on why the consulate is so backed up.  Consular delays should not be counted against you.

Good luck here.

@abthree We may need to ask you to weigh in on this. Since i posted this, I have had different information.

Basically, if you overstay your visa there is a fine. You pay the fine and then are given 60 days to return to your country and....that's where it gets confusing. I initially thought it was to collect the necessary documents to provide to the Federal Police for your VISA. In my case it was to get the Permanent Residency by Spouse, however it turned into the Brazilian Family Reunion. My 60 days would be up March 24th going by the initial signature on the document. Since I am going to the Brazilian Consulate, there seems to be a question if I actually need to return to the Federal Police.

Apparently I am not the only one confused. I received this from the Company doing the FBI Apostille......

Hello,

We have reviewed your file, and you were accidentally charged a second time.   The accounting department confused your file with another client with the same last name.  We do apologize for this error and any inconvenience it may have caused. We have reversed the second charge, and it should be...."

I guess if your last name is SIMMONS, don't go to them if you do not want to be double charged.

Roddie in Retirement

@rocade fyi, I explained what the 60 days were in a post to @abthree, however I am not sure what happens now.  @Pablo888. So, thank you for responding, I will wait to see what happens next. I am still in Washington, D.C. enjoying the Cherry Blossoms.

Roddie in Retirement

03/21/24 @roddiesho.  Hey!  I think that so far, you're ok.

You've taken care of the overstay fine, and that should be settled.  From there on, you're operating on the very individual advice that you received from your attorney and from the PF in Fortaleza, and it sounds like you've been following through on that.

When you complete the family reunion process at the Consulate, you'll have a new visa to return to Brazil and register as a permanent resident with the PF, and the overstay shouldn't count against you.

The documentation delays seem to be beyond your control, so they should not cause you problems at the Consulate, but letting the Consulate know that you're having them and doing your best to resolve them probably would not be a bad idea.

I'm glad to hear that you got the double charge resolved:  rotten thing to happen on top of everything else!  Hang in there, and enjoy the cherry blossoms -- I read that they're lovely this year.

    @rocade fyi, I explained what the 60 days were in a post to @abthree, however I am not sure what happens now.     

    -@roddiesho

I see, I imagine you don't need to worry about the 60 days anymore. As I made comment on another thread here previously, there may have been just a confusion: https://www.expat.com/forum/viewtopic.p … 73#5853380

Never heard of a time limit to "Come back to Brazil" within x days, and the 60 days I know is related to the overstay fine, which you made it out of Brazil in time. As long as someone else (the police, your lawyer) doesn't explicitly state otherwise, it was probably just a misunderstanding. What was that March 24th document with the signature about exactly - Was it about the overstay or something else?

If you are applying for a visa at the Brazilian consulate for your residence permit anyway, you just need to come back to Brazil before the date stated on that visa you will receive.

And as you have processed most of your document at the consulate, after you enter Brazil you will still need go back to PF, but this time it will be a much simpler visit just to register.

Good luck!

@abthree Sorry, I am just such a worrier. I wish I had someplace where I could relax on a soft bed under a tropical fan with a nice pool right outside my window.....Oh I do...it`s called HOME.

Thanx for the support,

Roddie in Retirement. 

I did learn something new from my retired Brazilian Consulate Advisor. The FBI Background Check I just received on my trip to R.I. is good because It will be presented to the Brazilian Consulate on American Soil, whereas the Quick, but Expensive Apossoled version now in Brazil was intended for the Federal Policia in Northeastern Brazil.

I am still in Washington, D.C. enjoying the Cherry Blossoms.
Roddie in Retirement-@roddiesho

If you get a chance, visit Stumpy the cherry tree.  This might be the last time that you will be able to see it... See https://www.npr.org/2024/03/19/12388963 … hington-dc

03/21/24    @abthree Sorry, I am just such a worrier. I wish I had someplace where I could relax on a soft bed under a tropical fan with a nice pool right outside my window.....Oh I do...it`s called HOME.
Thanx for the support,
Roddie in Retirement. -@roddiesho

After all you've been through, I think that you're entitled to a little worry.  I'm just glad that it's not PTSD.

@Pablo888 Yeah, they call it local news for a reason. i hear about Stumpy, day and night.  Hoping he follows the Panda Bears to their home after the season.

03/21/24   @Pablo888 Yeah, they call it local news for a reason. i hear about Stumpy, day and night.  Hoping he follows the Panda Bears to their home after the season. -@roddiesho

Yeah, I saw it too because I subscribe to WaPo.  First, because I'm a Georgetown grad, so it was my "hometown paper" back in the day.  Second, because the NYT is just too arrogant for words.  Finally and most importantly, because every time they get me so mad that I want to cancel, they remind me that I lucked into one of the cheapest subscription plans they ever offered then got grandfathered, and that if I give it up I'll never get it back.  Greed wins!