how do we get invited to parties in riyadh
I was wondering if you would send me an invitation to meet you sometime at your compound? Regards Ian
On the other hand, @Allie, regarding beer, there is nothing to hold here, even this one pass (you can choose another vowel if you feel more comfortable
) faster than I thought... Anyway, I will wait the invitation from Amy to one of her parties, maybe we can cross some cultural and geographical barriers...Tavi
Good luck and happy hunting for what you want. Regards Ian
On the other hand, even if we don't have such an intense social life, we don't have too many reasons to complain (when I say "we" I'm speaking about me and my european fellows): we're not living in a compound (read sealed jar), there is no reason to think about security (we're going out without locking the door, we slept lots of nights forgetting to lock the door and so on), it's not only once when I forgot to lock my car doors, and I can give you more other examples... Fears ? Believe me (you can see from my profile) I traveled already in lots of conflict areas, here you can be worried only on the roads, when driving, because of their style... apart of that, you can really have a normal life, as far as you can accept the idea that there are some limits, different from other places, that you must obey (and when I say obey it's not a matter of obedience, it's a matter of the result of your choice to come here and the consequences of your coming). And we meet each Thursday evening in a garden pub for a great diner with tea, Arabic coffee, really delicious lamb ribs, an amazing seafood shorba (rich soup) and long chats, until 2-3 in the morning... Some other time trying new places, restaurants, terraces, coffee shops, you know, we were invited to some weddings, so it really is social life here, if you want it and if you can adapt your wishes with local possibilities... regarding alcohol, believe me, I've seen nobody dead because he/she didn't drink alcohol, it's not vital for surviving (btw, I'm a bombay sapphire great fan, if you know what I mean, and I have my own receipt !

) but when I need a treat, I fly across the border, to Dubai, for 2-3 days and after that I'm back with batteries charged.Again, social life: you can tailor it as it suits you, only use your imagination and the proper entourage if you know what I mean... Any excesssss can be dangerousssss (Kaa quote
)Yours,
Tavi
It's too early to get over-excited about the possible networking opportunity that is available for expats on compounds.
I'm going to have a few weekends like this one that just passed (where I chill online for most of the day) and mind my own business while giggling at my computer screen watching comedy clips.
lol..


Thank you for your blog. I agree with you because I am in the same situation as you. I do not live in a compound but I have a very nice apartment. I agree the Saudi Roads are dangerous , mainly because of mobile phones!! and you can just buy a Licence, no driving required. Whenever I want to Party, I just go to Dubai, but I hear Bahrain is good also. We are a new office so was all Bachelor's but gradually we are bringing in our wives and girlfriends so the social dynamics are changing from coffee bars to in house socials. Regards Ian
I read your blog and my recommendations are to (1) Save your money in KSA and (2) go to Dubai or Bahrain once every 4 / 6 weeks where I do not have any problems acquiring a drink and females. In KSA there are some nice restaurants to treat yourself say once a week and join the Embassy for Events. No problems...
I think the same situation is here, as far as it is protected the privacy and the traditional habits of Saudi people. As a matter of fact, nobody likes to be annoyed in his own home, even if in ignorance; before doing something, it's normal to take information if it's not against the rule (in Libya, in the building we lived, in the beginning I saluted the ladies I met in the mornings, I considered a matter of decency, it's mandatory, as male, to be the first one who salutes, as a sign of respect, in most of Europe, so I did it until somebody warned me that the rule is totally different...
).Even here, I was almost to be as polite as I am at home, with the ladies are living in my building, but when I've seen them just creeping up along the walls, I've understood that it's not the best choice
. There are, definitely two worlds, like water and oil: them and us, no way of mingle, even if there are people saying that we can have parties together: it will be only a mutual collecting information session, maybe with food, maybe with soft drinks, maybe with different kinds of music and big efforts from each part to understand the other one, maybe with opinions with or without possibility of conciliation, but we will remain exactly who we are: parts of different worlds, necessary here because we were asked, due to our different expertise, but accepted only at surface level, never as family members and forever expats, as the name of the blog
.That's way is soooo goood Dubai...

Yours,
Tavi
tavitza58 wrote:Dear Amy, you're too nice, I wish I would be as cautious as you see me, but the reality is quite different (if you only really know me)... OK, most of the time I like to spent in front of laptop seeing movies or sniffing around or listening music, but I also like to see people around me, life throbbing, I really love souks, the smells, the colors, the noise, my favorite place in Tripoli was Medina (the Old City, the Citadel around what they built the actual capital), you can walk inside about a full day without seeing it entirely, with a lot of small shops, from jewelry to spices, clothing, furniture, sweets, appliance, ivory, leather stuff, art crafts and pottery, anything you can or cannot imagine... And you can stop for a tea with nana or coffee on a terrace, can take photos and nobody will ask you why you use your camera... Of course I was a little bit wary and deliberate in the beginning, then I avoided only the military compounds, the Ghadaffi areas and places with forbidden photo signs, all remaining became good subject to catch, no matter, more or less discreet.
I think the same situation is here, as far as it is protected the privacy and the traditional habits of Saudi people. As a matter of fact, nobody likes to be annoyed in his own home, even if in ignorance; before doing something, it's normal to take information if it's not against the rule (in Libya, in the building we lived, in the beginning I saluted the ladies I met in the mornings, I considered a matter of decency, it's mandatory, as male, to be the first one who salutes, as a sign of respect, in most of Europe, so I did it until somebody warned me that the rule is totally different...).
Even here, I was almost to be as polite as I am at home, with the ladies are living in my building, but when I've seen them just creeping up along the walls, I've understood that it's not the best choice. There are, definitely two worlds, like water and oil: them and us, no way of mingle, even if there are people saying that we can have parties together: it will be only a mutual collecting information session, maybe with food, maybe with soft drinks, maybe with different kinds of music and big efforts from each part to understand the other one, maybe with opinions with or without possibility of conciliation, but we will remain exactly who we are: parts of different worlds, necessary here because we were asked, due to our different expertise, but accepted only at surface level, never as family members and forever expats, as the name of the blog
.
That's way is soooo goood Dubai...
Yours,
Tavi
Hi Tavi, it seems you have some really good memories to share and you're good at writing too 
amy001 wrote:wow... 2 already?! how do you get connected?
People took me under there wings to introduce me to other people........it snowballs from there. Im now turning down opportunities to go out. There are just too many of them!
It is obvious that 2 worlds exist.
Finding the right social crowd anywhere is difficult in the beginning until we make sense of where we are and who is around us.
Thank you for the meaningful feedback.
I'm learning everyday... hehehe
ranking, level in the hierarchy), but usually it's not an issue for the "verified" people. It's the place of "you know the person who knows the right person"... As simple as that.Wish you luck, buddy !

Yours,
Tavi
?Fidgety Soul wrote:OMG!!! I felt I am reading a book. How can someone type so much
?
Oh, there was somebody even more verbose until she got herself banned.
suribhai wrote:Always better to involve in what you know and what you can help with.

oh.. by the way...
... There was a wonderful Jordanian friend who gave me an orientation into the world of Riyadh over the weekend that just passed ...
and I'm getting another orientation session this weekend because he has a long way to go to teach my small mind about how this wonderful place operates...
Salaam Saudi Arabia!
1) White (or from non-arab or OFW countries) but mostly white.
2) A young woman (or just young in general)
3) Very sociable and exceed at networking (if you were this you would have found them already)
There are of course other ways if you do not meet this criteria, but not ways I can discuss on the forum. I probably won't help you if you PM me too, too many Saudi's here.
Harsh, but true.
Somebody wrote something about "knowing right people and right places". Couldn't be more accurate than that: 2 weeks ago, great party with music, dancing, food and anything (ANY... or almost), one week ago, the gang went to Dubai where, BTW, have seen the other side of life (one example: ladies driving cars
)...There is nothing wrong to freely discuss about parties, but I think is somehow unfair to give voice to frustration in a place where people need guidance, not cheap sarcasm... IMHO

Ladies and mates,wish you all the best,
Tavi
From a newbie's point of view and my brief but fulfilling experience in socialising... Its all about the energy that you carry. If you are optimistic about having an adventure here and meeting new people.. It will happen. If you expect the worst and fear being lonely with no connection to the outside world, you will attract it to yourself.
I was patient and I've made some friends who have taken me out to restaurants for dinners, I went to the museum, I'm going for a camel ride this weekend, another friend sponsored me with a relaxing day at a spa, I attended a BBQ at 2 compounds already, I'm going on a hiking trip and camp this weekend... the list of activities are endless.
The people here are amazing, and you can have a safe and good life. Jordanian, lebanese, egyptian, syrian.... Why didnt I discover these nationalities earlier in life? I wonder.. hahaha.
Hvae some faith. Believe that you will have great friends in here who are living on awesome compounds.. you will enjoy compound freedom in more ways than one.
As for parties......... well its up to you and what kind of vibe you prefer. There are lots of party scenes in here. You have the power to pick, choose and refuse.
It's not sarcasm, its a reality!
Laterz


...and who said I hate reading i only get bored reading something baseless and rest is totally fine.
Just need to get comfortable with your own company, and yes I do live in a compound but more due to the Companies rules, but I'd like to think people will talk to me for more than an invite to a piss up.
love to meet new pals and have good time.
Have a nice day.
i love to join but i believe it takes 3 months to get IQAMA...then only we can....at the same time i am not sure whether we need passport or not....my passport is with company...
mrthoth wrote:I'd like to think people will talk to me for more than an invite to a piss up.
BRAVO! I call those people 'compound whores' because they'll do just about anything for an invite.
1. The contract attested and your sponsor engaged.
2. The medical check stamped and attested by the ministry
3. The 4 photos
4. The health/medical insurance recorded
It's not that hard a process, you just need someone who can actually do. I've heard people saying it can take 3/4 months. Once that's done it's about another week or so for the multiple entry exit visa.
What you need to bear in mind is even if you have excellent photos handed in, your Iquama is the one they took at the airport of you look like a mess when you first came off the plane

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