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6 years ago

Hi I just wanted to ask if I will go to London for work there and they are the one provide my visa and ticket. But I'm still working in saudi Arabia what I will need to do if I will leave Saudi to go to London uk

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GuestPoster9875 Guest

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6 years ago

Please give me advice if I will work in UK London and they send me visa for working visa then I'm still presently in saudi Arabia working what should I do if will go to travel in loondon UK what needed since I did not exit here in saudi please reply

XTang Bahrain/UAE/KSA Expert

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6 years ago

Resign from your Saudi employer and ask them to give you final exit visa. That is only way to leave properly and legally and avoid any future bans.

The other way is that if you have an exit re-entry visa, you can just leave and never come back. But be prepared for an automatic ban on working in Saudi again for at least 3 years and potentially more if your employer reports you as "Huroob".

Fred Indonesia Expert

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6 years ago

Before you consider leaving Saudi make sure the London job is real.
There are a lot of scams around so take care.

GuestPoster9875 Guest

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6 years ago

Again need exit and reentry visa how. If my visa will be in UK they send the visa for

GuestPoster9875 Guest

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6 years ago

Yah itsrela I have sponsor

GuestPoster9875 Guest

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6 years ago

It's real I have sponsor already they will be the one to send me a visa and ticket. So still I need visa for exit and reentry visa?

GuestPoster9875 Guest

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6 years ago

Means I should go first in Mya country then I will leave there going directly to London? So that I can apply exit and reentry visa. Then I will not come here in saudi directly in my country going to london

XTang Bahrain/UAE/KSA Expert

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6 years ago

I think you have some confusion. You NEED an exit/re-entry visa or a final exit visa to be able to leave Saudi physically. Immigration won't let you leave without those. As long as you have the visa, it doesn't matter whether you go to London from Saudi or go to your home country - immigration doesn't care.

Also, the point made by Fred is valid. UK based employers generally do NOT hire people from outside the UK as it is very difficult to secure permission to work for jobs which are not specialized. The usual way to get to the UK is through internal company transfers. So if your sponsor ever asks you to pay for any visa fee or to make any payment - it is a scam.

Ather Ali Syed Member

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6 years ago

#10

Greetings,
i would like to ask you that my wife is here in saudi arabia on single entry visit visa for 90 days, can i change the single entry visit visa to multiple entry visit visa for 2 years. as she is already in KSA.

XTang Bahrain/UAE/KSA Expert

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6 years ago

#11

This thread is for a different topic.

However, no you can't. She needs to exit and then re-apply from home country for the 2 year visa.

GuestPoster9875 Guest

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6 years ago

#12

Thank you for your advice but my employer didn't ask money for visa. But the home office in UK they're asking me show money travel subsistence allowance of 1700 GBP. They required that the rules of applying visa is I have to send 1700GBP thru money the sender is my friend and I'm the one receiver... I will ask question that is not scam? Or I just wanted if you have idea what number in UK embassy in Riyadh should I contact please reply soon

XTang Bahrain/UAE/KSA Expert

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6 years ago

#13

I will keep this simple as you didn't seem to understand what I said before.

If ANYONE, no matter who, asks you to SEND money to them for ANY reason i.e. visa, job etc - IT IS 100% a SCAM!!

The Home Office will NEVER ask anyone to SEND money to prove that they have it. Bank statements will suffice for that. And they even make it clear on their website.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati … -and-scams

Specifically, this point:

People who target applicants for UK work visas
They ask you to pay a deposit as proof that you have enough funds to support you in the UK until you receive your first salary. As part of the official application process, you must give us evidence that you have enough money to support yourself, but we will never ask you to give us money.

It's as I said, they are asking you to prove that you have money but NOT to give it to them.

Google British Embassy number.

To me, from what you said, it is a SCAM. Walk away and don't lose your money. And understand what Fred and myself have already said, recruitment into the UK for Non-EU citizens is VERY difficult and next to impossible without going through internal transfers from existing companies or a separate immigration process.

Fred Indonesia Expert

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6 years ago

#14

Last i heard the uk authorities ask for proof of funds, not actual cash in the uk.
that might well mean whomever you're in contact with is a scammer.
Are you sure the people are actually the UK government?

XTang Bahrain/UAE/KSA Expert

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6 years ago

#15

@Fred, it is clear. It is definitely a scam. She is just choosing not to see it.

Fred Indonesia Expert

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6 years ago

#16

XTang and i agree on this issue - any cash sent is probably lost

GuestPoster9875 Guest

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6 years ago

#17

[img]Yah his manager of home office UK mark Thomson he is the one who is assessing my work visa as my employer[/img]

GuestPoster9875 Guest

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6 years ago

#18

OK sir.. But it was stated in the rule of UK that it was included in my requirements. To have travel subsistence allowance then I can scan and email to them along with my passport copy and the form for visa they send it To me by email

Fred Indonesia Expert

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6 years ago

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What's his email address and telephone number?

XTang Bahrain/UAE/KSA Expert

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6 years ago

#20

Mermadelady wrote:
OK sir.. But it was stated in the rule of UK that it was included in my requirements. To have travel subsistence allowance then I can scan and email to them along with my passport copy and the form for visa they send it To me by email

Please read carefully what I have said and what even home office have said on their website.

You HAVE to provide proof of funds but NOT send any money to anyone. If any money is to be sent then it is definitely a SCAM / FRAUD.

Also Mark Thompson is the DIRECTOR GENERAL of the UK Home Office. I seriously doubt that someone at that level is handling YOUR application - it is absolutely impossible. It sounds like the scammers have picked the name of the Head of UK passports which is the only one available on the gov.uk site and fooled you.

Paste the details of the emails and contacts here as Fred suggested.

Fred Indonesia Expert

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6 years ago

#21

XTang wrote:
Also Mark Thompson is the DIRECTOR GENERAL of the UK Home Office. I seriously doubt that someone at a Minister level is handling YOUR application. It sounds like the scammers have picked the name of the Head of UK passports which is the only one available on the gov.uk site and fooled you.

He's also head of the department that issues visas, but it's highly unlikely he'll actually see any applications unless it's an extremely controversial name in the public eye.
However, as is said above, nobody should ask you to send any money anywhere, just supply a bank statement or other proof.
it sounds a lot like a scam.

GuestPoster9875 Guest

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6 years ago

#22

Yah thanks for the advice

GuestPoster9875 Guest

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6 years ago

#23

My employer ask them to assist my working visa

GuestPoster9875 Guest

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6 years ago

#24

Did not ask any payment only to required my TSA travel allowance thru money gram or RIA money transfer mark Thomson is a general majesty in home office in UK for visa and immigration

GuestPoster9875 Guest

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6 years ago

#25

Yah that's why I'm asking an opinion here what I will do cause if this is thru this good aportunity to work there as a care giver in UK sponsor by USAF but my employer base in London

XTang Bahrain/UAE/KSA Expert

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6 years ago

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Mermadelady wrote:
Did not ask any payment only to required my TSA travel allowance thru money gram or RIA money transfer mark Thomson is a general majesty in home office in UK for visa and immigration

Read the part in bold that you wrote.

For the last time, IT IS A SCAM. There is NO requirement to send anything via money gram or RIA money transfer by the home office.

It is up to you if you want to listen to us or not. Go ahead and lose your money if you want. You have been warned and given all the facts clearly which are:

1) It is a scam and you should NOT send any money
2) There is no opportunity. This is a fake job. They don't hire caregivers from outside UK like this. They get plenty from within EU. Even medical professionals go through an immigration process

You seem to be not understanding for some reason.

GuestPoster9875 Guest

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6 years ago

#27

Yah cause I have contact with them

XTang Bahrain/UAE/KSA Expert

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6 years ago

#28

Well I guess it is pointless trying to explain as you don't seem to read or understand. It is a fake job and it is a scam based on everything you just said here.

Go ahead. Send your money. Be prepared to lose it.

GuestPoster9875 Guest

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6 years ago

#29

Actually I have friend in the UK and they meet already my employer in London that's why I have idea.. All my friends at here in UK working in the hospital and I ask them to go the USAF lakenheth to find my employer to be sure. So we have conversation that they told they went there and and inquired him about my working visa according to them its not scam.. As my employer meet my friends in London

XTang Bahrain/UAE/KSA Expert

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6 years ago

#30

What I am trying to tell you is that the person who is PRETENDING to be your employer is NOT genuine.

Why? because there is NO requirement by the Home office to PAY ANY MONEY OR DEPOSIT. Proof of funds is NEVER through deposit.

There have been lots of cases in the UK where scammers took on the identity of genuine companies and scammed people. This is even more true in caregiver jobs where the employer is an individual.

This is a very COMMON scam. Read this and see if you got similar communication from the Home Office:

https://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewt … p;p=262017

Then go to the Home Office site and see if a deposit is needed:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati … -and-scams

I am not going to give you any more advice as it seems that you are not listening and just want us to say that you should pay the money. All the facts are in front of you. You decide what you want to do - just don't come back crying when it doesn't work out.

GuestPoster9875 Guest

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6 years ago

#31

That money transfer my surest friend who can be my trusted person will be the one to send money and the receiver is my name...

XTang Bahrain/UAE/KSA Expert

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6 years ago

#32

Ok good luck then.

XTang Bahrain/UAE/KSA Expert

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6 years ago

#33

I will just say one last thing which you need to watch out for.

They are telling you that it is totally secure because your friend will send the money and the receiver is you. What will then happen is that they will ask for proof that the money has been sent.

If they ask you to send them a scanned receipt of the money gram transfer as proof - DO NOT DO IT!!!. Because with the code on that receipt, they can collect the money EVEN if it is in your name.

GuestPoster9875 Guest

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6 years ago

#34

Ah OK sir I understand nut I would confirm tomorrow in the British embassy cause 3pm is there cut off timi will confirm this one I did not send yet my money

XTang Bahrain/UAE/KSA Expert

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6 years ago

#35

Remember, to collect a money gram, all the person needs to have is the reference number and name of the sender. They can easily take your money.

The moment they ask you to send them a scanned receipt of the transfer - walk away or your money is gone. This is 100% a scam.

A case of how money gram transfers are used for scams:

The scammer will offer a plausible reason for seeking proof, such as they live abroad and don’t want to travel to a viewing unless the tenant has the money. They then suggest that this can be done safely by going to a Western Union or Moneygram outlet and completing a money transfer to a trusted friend or relative for the amount of the deposit. The person can then provide the “landlord” with a scanned receipt. The purpose of this is to prove that the victim can afford the deposit before they view the apartment. But in reality the receipt allows the scammer to collect the funds without any viewing ever taking place. The fake landlord reassures the prospective tenants that no one else can access the money, but unfortunately when the victim goes to retrieve the money they find it has already been withdrawn. The scanned copy of the receipt contains all the information the scammer needs to go into any Western Union or Moneygram outlet and withdraw the money.

In one case, for example, a student was asked to transfer £1,800 to a friend via a wire transfer to prove she had enough money to rent a room she had seen online. After giving the receipt as proof to the landlord, she asked her friend to collect the money, only to find it had already been collected by someone else. The transfer agency told her that the person who collected it had given the money transfer number and shown identification in the correct name.

When the student reported the crime to the police, she was told there was no case because she was unable to give sufficient information of how the funds had been collected. When she tried to get this information from the money transfer company, she was told they couldn't give details without a crime reference number due to data protection. She found herself in a catch-22 situation and nearly £2,000 out of pocket!

GuestPoster9875 Guest

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6 years ago

#36

OK I will but just to confirm it to British.

Fred Indonesia Expert

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6 years ago

#37

Scammers aren't clever and their scams are easily busted, so they have to hope their potential victims are stupid, uneducated, or simply foolish.
There are a lot of really successful scammers.

Fred Indonesia Expert

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6 years ago

#38

XTang wrote:
Why? because there is NO requirement by the Home office to PAY ANY

Off-topic - Never try to teach a pig to sing. you end up wasting your time and it annoys the pig.

On topic. I believe the warnings are a bit of a waste of time as the victim is far too keen on this great opportunity to want to believe the clear and obvious danger.
I have no wish to see anyone scammed but I see no advantage in giving any more singing lessons on this thread.
XTang ~ your explanation is really easy to understand and your research in finding a similar case was nicely done, but your bootless cries are not troubling the deaf. As always, no one is as deaf as the person that does not want to hear.

XTang Bahrain/UAE/KSA Expert

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6 years ago

#39

That's true.

She wants to confirm with the British embassy but the funny thing is that what we were telling her is clearly warned about on the home office site.... A credible government source.

I guess people will believe what they really want to believe.... We even have flat earthers in this world.... And now I know why

GuestPoster9875 Guest

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6 years ago

#40

I don't like your mouth... I'm not here, to hear bad words..... I just ask suggestion but your mouth not good to hear.... Don't comment on my inquiry if cannot good words.... I know what I'm doing.fred watch your mouth.!!!!i better leave this if like this people opinion is something bad.. I can accept what you warned but the bad words. I can't accept. To those who give nice advice and good idea I'm so thankful to hear from you but to those people judging me, I don't like them especially Fred and this xtang.... I don't like your bad word coming from your mouth..... I'll better leave...