Simple Plans for a Simpler Life
Well, the time and circumstances have aligned just so, and we'll be making our first foray into Belize in the next couple of months. My wife and I are middle aged (47and 57 respectively) and our daughter is 9, going on 21.
Without going into all the details, we are receiving about 1500 a month in income, and have a reasonable (not huge, not insignificant) amount of cash reserves from a settlement in which my wife was injured. We hope this will allow us to build a simple life in Belize, after looking at and rejecting what that would allow for us here in the U.S.
For us, the decision came down to spending my time AWAY from our family, working to pay ongoing bills, or simply building a much simpler life in Belize by paying cash for the major basic needs, instead of mortgages and loans, leaving time to be together as a family. We choose the latter. It was kind of a no-brainer.
We are planning to move to Belize permanently, but recognizing that we know really very little and need to get to know the place first, we plan to make at least one open ended (not less than 2 weeks) foray for scouting purposes before eventually committing to renting a place long term. (until we eventually buy our own place). We are cutting all ties here, even for the short term, and putting what few things we think we have to keep into storage, (my Harley, some tools, books, a collection of toys, some select pieces of furniture we think we canÂ’t part with) thinking that we would put them into a container for transport in the future, and pay relatively low costs to keep them in storage for up to a year.
For reasons of proximity, we think Corozal and its environs to be our most likely permanent landing spot. (We have need to be within reasonable time to medical facilities in Mexico or easy and convenient travel to the US in the event something comes up.) After a trial rental period, we expect to begin thinking of owning, but think that before weÂ’ve spent quite a bit of time there, it would be premature to dive right in to owning, so we expect to rent, if during our initial trip, we think we would like to stay.
So, as a first point of interest, we would like to make new contacts in and around Corozal, to speak with folk who can help us in thinking about where to stay temporarily to get to know the area and looking for homes for rent, and so on. Of course, best of all would be to begin making new friends! People with KIDS would be of interest to our daughter, of courseÂ….
While on this recon trip, we will want to travel on one or two day trips to see some of the country other than Corozal. We have a GIANT SUV (Ford Expedition) that at this point, I plan to drive through Mexico with my daughter while Mom flies down to meet us at the airport. (uninterested as she is in a two or three day road trip through Mexico).
Doing so means IÂ’m either keeping the 14mpg behemoth forever, or driving it back to the US to sell after the recon trip. (IÂ’m thinking getting rid of it in advance and bringing a more economical 4x4 down, that could reasonably stay there.)
We NEED to have a vehicle, even for the recon, let alone in the event we decide to stay permanently. So, the other option would be to buy something reasonable (for cash) when we get there after offloading this beast on some upwardly mobile rat racer in the US before we go. Any thoughts on the best way to go on the car deal?
Pets. We have a female Australian Shepard, and a nice little no-tail cat we rescued from Hurricane Katrina that we’ll be bringing down after we decide to stay. Other than the “knowns” about getting their shots and veterinarians’ ok in advance, what about renting a place that will let us have them with us? Any troubles to be expected? Unwise to bring them along on the first trip, I’d imagine, thus requiring a second trip to go get them.
Of course, this is just the tip of the melting iceberg, and we have a lot of questions, both in preparation for our departure, and for settling down when we get there. For any answers and introductions, we are grateful and interested to hear what you have to say!
Thanks for taking time to read this, and we look forward to making your acquaintance!
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Sell the behemoth, rent locally for the two or so weeks of reconnaisance, then buy if you're ready to stay.
Rent a house.
Bring the dog and cat, and that stuff you can't live without when you have rented your house. Do it all at once. Trips back can mess up your plan to go permanent if you stay gone more than 14 days.
Think more about where and hjow to live than how close you are to Chetumal. It's no more than half a day from anywhere.
Second round of questions:
Since I write freelance web copy and attend university on line, and my wife is interested in imports/exports and FB, we'll need and want internet access. How does Hughes compare with wired services?
Are Mennonite houses a good value, or do you have to consider incursions of variously-legged and likely unwelcome visitors?
Thanks!
Are you on Facebook? If so, you should join the group "Belize Expats" and read all the posts from the past. You'll learn a lot there. There has been some discussion about Hughesnet there.
I definitely think you should do a recon trip before moving down, per your original plan. Some people do that and don't like it here. It would be bad to move your family, pets, and "stuff" down on your very first trip only to find out that Belize is not a good fit for you. It happens!
Don't worry about losing a little time on your "permanent residency" clock if you travel down here before making the actual move. While it's true the clock doesn't start ticking until you actually move here and don't leave the country for 14 days in a year, moving down here before visiting could be a much more costly and short-sighted mistake than paying for tourist visa renewals for an extra month or three. Priorities, my friend.
Not trying to be negative -- just realistic.Â
Best of luck as you begin this journey!
We are really clear that it will be necessary to spend some time looking around before making the move permanent. The two weeks are intended to give us time to look around a little. We can extend that trip to allow more time, if necessary, and only if we find a spot we think will work, in terms of the home and its surroundings would we make the commitment to a lease for longer.
We certainly would not want to buy or build right away, there are just too many things that we may not anticipate, and that only time, friends, and experience will teach us. There is much to learn!
You can rent a vehicle right across from the airport, just walk over and bargain with them for the best price you can get. If you come down via Cancun and bus to Corozal, then you can rent a vehicle from the used car place on the road in from Mexico, can remember the name of the place, but the owners name is Angel. I think he charges $75.00/day.
Here is a link to Consegjo's web site http://www.consejo.bz/, it will show homes from rent. Prices are cheaper in Corozal just don't have a link for places for rent. You can see Chetumal across the bay, 10 minutes by boat.
Come down, meet the locals and expats and see what you think of it as a permanent home. Good luck with you search.
We had finally reached the same conclusion on the vehicle, keeping it and driving down doesn't make as much sense when considering all the conditions and complications along with the poor mileage and unecessary luxury (though our daughter wonders whether a new one will ALSO have a DVD player....)
We may have found on that page at least one house rental lead there that could work. We think a 2 bedroom would suit us best, and transitioning from a week to week to a monthly would lessen complexity, if that were much of a concern. So, Thanks! A lot of good info for a 404 error page! lol
We had seen some cheaper car rentals than 75/day, but not much less, and probably further away. So thanks for that too! We;ll keep looking into our choices, but I'm guessing you identified a couple of low hassle options!
thanks again. perhaps we'll enjoy a Belikin when we pass through.
I'm pleased to have been of help to you, good luck with you adventure and I hope to see you around Corozal to share a beer and conversation.
Our simple plan is the finding and/or creation of a space for living that allows us to concentrate on the small simple joys in life, family and homelife, a few good friends rather than a ton of acquaintances, some peace and quiet along with some little adventures to share with our daughter as she grows up.
A decent school close by, a nice little town with great people (native and expat) and great stuff to discover in it and around it, a good and serviceable kitchen, a home with a sort of aging hippy cachet, and a chance to make some kind of small and positive difference in our community.
We don't have a ton of money, we have probably just enough to pull it off at a modest level with some reserve set aside to help us get our permanent house when the time comes, and to outfit it and its grounds in a way pleasing to us and to those we entertain and engage in life's joys and celebrations, and some small scale gardening....and a duck. Yes, a duck. Don't ask. It's important to my wife to have a duck.
A small boat would be nice for my daughter and I for fishing and diving, a 4x4 for exploring (small, used is just fine) a couple of bicycles, and all the sensible gear and all, to go along with the pretty frocks my wife favors.. she's not an outdoorswoman, and will prefer her quiet time at home or with friends to the more adventurous of our daughter and my little adaventures.Â
So, this is an opportunity to warn us about what we don't foresee, and perhaps to let us know we're not being overly optimistic. What are we missing?
  We have 2 young children and a yearning for a simpler existence also. This a very interesting thread to us and we would like to follow your journey if you are willing to share it. Thank you for what you have shared so far.
My wife recently started a blog covering our path towards a life in Belize. Here is the link:
http://belizeisnotanisland.blogspot.com/
I have yet to be accepted on that FB page... not taking it personally... lol
We really don't WANT all that stuff. Maybe we are oddballs, maybe we don't even fit in in Tempe, (we're kind of purple, in a blue town located in a red state, after all), maybe we just don't fit the "typical American family" model, and frankly, having to deal with the miasma that passes for living in the Arizona suburban wasteland for the next several years just has no appeal to us at all.
We had already been looking for alternatives for a long time, from teaching on reservations, to building a substinance farm on the Olympic Penninsula or somewhere, to well, you get the idea.. just dreams....and then.... one day... something happened that made it more than a dream, and circumstances in our lives made it even more important than just an escapist's dream. In fact, I went so far as to move down to South Texas and work in the oilfield for a while, intending to bring them down with me soon....when the dam busted open, that plan became obsolete, and everything changed as far as having the means to GO, and stop just dreaming about it, or hoping for it, or working myself to death to get it.
So now, not only do we know that the QUALITY of life is more important than the amount of crap we accumulate, or the convenience of shopping at big box stores, or whatever, we are in a position to make that real and leave the race behind. We had already been simplifying, sold out, rented, got rid of stuff, quit getting a new car every couple years, quit working in the Fortune 100 world, quit trying to make a difference being a teacher in a public school where no one actually cares, quit all that, and just started making it all easier, here, now, where and how we could. But it's not enough.
There's no there, there. No matter how simple you try to make it in the US, it's always overcomplicated, overdone, overworked, overbearing, overpopulated, overwrought, and over. It's over. We're done. We know that the whole set up is a trap, a trap that eats your life, and before you know it, you're checking into a nursing home wondering where all the time went, why there wasn't more to it all....why you WASTED your short time on the planet doing THAT?!? We realized that our time together was the very most important and valuable thing we have... and thanks, but we are KEEPING it, and America and its consumerism can't HAVE it.
I'm getting rid of my Harley...I can't imagine wanting to ride much in Belize. The whole point of having it that justified it, what made me NEED it in the states would be moot in Belize. I've already sold my hobby VWs, (an old bus and a rabbit convertible), and we're in the process of divesting ourselves of all but the most cherished items....
Well, onward. Please excuse the mini-rant. We'll keep talking about what, and why, and when as things progress. I understand my daughter has agreed to give up any toys appropriate for any age younger than 7, so far. She has a looong way to go in her divestment proceedings... lol
SimplePlans: We have been here in Chandler for 4 years and I have been in AZ for most of my life. My wife moved from OR over 5 years ago. I used to love this place and now I find myself trying to recall why. The both of us, my wife and I, are tired of the rat race as well. My only concern with moving to Belize is that I cannot work right away. We're not in a financial situation at all, but I would like something to do. I've thought about eventually working as a bartender. I think that may be an enjoyable occupation for me.
 Regarding getting to Belize, we plan on driving through Mexico to get there. This is something that fills me with dread, due mostly to the American media reporting widespread violence in the country. I worry about putting my family in harms way, but I'm also not convinced it is the way they say it is. Things may be different by the time we get ourselves underway.
 With all that said, my wife and I have come to a conclusion; although we plan on changing the scenery drastically, we are still us. We are not happy in Chandler, but we are not miserable people.
 We have changed our outlook for the positive. The hunched shoulders and the defeatist attitude have been exorcised. We greet each morning with a smile instead of a grunt. We appreciate what we have instead of lamenting that which we do not have. This is who we want to be when we arrive in Belize.
I am a 25 year old female Belizean. Simple plan moving here with a family and a tight budget is totally do-able.
Don't make the medical availability in Mexico be the reason for choosing Corozal District. It would be best that when you get to Belize you find the District that suites you. Belize do got some good doctors.
When you get here you would find that more than half of the doctors are really good since most of them study in Cuba and are cubans. They get more money for their profession over here.
Thanks for that bit of advice. I was thinking the same thing, that it would be a shame to restirct our options on that basis alone, though we do need to be sure we have the right kind of doctor available to my wife wherever we finally end up. I appreciate the assurances about your doctors though.
Hopefully we will get to meet some of you when we get there.
I would not drive through Mexico in the past few years, or rather tampico. I like my life and my kids lives too much. Have done it 7 times.But the last time was rough. Still drive to cancun 2 times a year without issue.
Spend time in several area's until you find what you like. Myself I went for the middle so I could explore. Then found some good property that was high and dry. Many people find great deals and the great deals are usually under water during one part of the year. I am from AZ so can tell you what to expect with that transition.
The dentist in our area is outstanding. I feel "medically safe" here.Â
We also drove here from Missouri through Mexico. It was a great experience, but I have heard that it is not as safe any more. I cannot say. I can say that when you get to Belize, you will be in a better place in your life. Â
I live inland, in Bullet Tree. You can always find some area to work in. Volunteers are always needed too. If I can help in any way, please contact me at rayleeaust@yahoo.com
Hope to see you all there!
Are there others? Where we live will be based entirely on the location of a good school for our daughter.
Good luck with the move, SimplePlans!
Belmopan also has Ballet and chess programs too. Most the schools in BZ are religious based. So, the education is a little different than what we expected. We ended up homeschooling our 3 kids, because they struggled with the ascents.
CREOLE PROVERB
WHEN A LET OUT ME ROASTA, PULL IN YU HEN & LOC DE FOWL CUBB
When I let out my rooster, pull in your hen and lock the hen house.
Meaning: Protect your family when danger is lurking.
You have to love the language...lol
It is important to me that we find families of similar interests and others who love children. Our 9-year-old is smart, artistic, loves science, loves to draw and would love to make friends, of course. What child wouldn't?
I see my husband mentioned that it is important to me to have a duck. That is correct. My goal is to find a duck egg that is about to hatch and have the duckling imprint on me. I plan on hand-raising it and naming it "Wilbur". Gender of the duck isn't as important to me as having it know me as it's mother from the very beginning. I know this may sound strange, but this has been a dream of mine for a very long time. I hope to make this dream a reality very soon.
Anyway, I digress.
I look forward to hearing from others and getting to know more people.
Good stuff. My son just turned 13 and have two girls, 8 and 6, but we are in AZ currently for a while for medical services. I am a disabled veteran and we need to pop up here for my medical and my wife's
I understand that the cost of living is a bit higher on Ambergris Caye..seems that your figure bears that out. Would you say you live relatively simply by comparison to other Caye residents? If you don't mind me asking... from what I've read, it can get considerably more expensive there, but that doesn't sound too terrible.
Thanks!
thanks!
Dangerous Snakes of Belize
A quick google search of "poisonous snakes Belize" turned up a bunch of pages you could peruse if you are worried. The Fer-de-Lance is pretty terrifying, but I refuse to live my life in fear. There are plenty of other things that could getcha, like the flight or drive down to Belize in the first place.Â
And I've never seen a scorpion, though I know others in the San Pedro area have -- usually very tiny ones.
I was more worried about mosquitoes when moving down to Belize. They can be numerous at certain times of the year, after rains. Sand flies (no-see-ums) also. Such a nuisance. But something else you'll deal with in Florida or many other places as well.
I looked up a generic search of ducks with red faces and found a picture of a Muscovy Duck. This picture shows a duck that has feathers are mostly brown and not quite what I had in mind for my duck. I don't want to sound picky, well, I am being rather particular, not so much picky. My dream duck is to be one of the white ones...in further searching, I do see that it is possible to have an all white duck with a red face...also a Muscovy Duck from what the caption says. So...now I have a breed name and I can go from there in my search for "Wilbur". I suppose it is a crap shoot to see what feather colors a duck has...don't think it's possible to hatch an all white duck...Oh well. The search begins!
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