3 Year TRC (Temporary Residence Card) without work permit

LSP123 wrote:

Hi guys. I have a spousal TRC expiring in early 2019. Can this TRC be 'renewed' or I need to apply for a new one upon expiry? Appreciate throwing some light on this.

You need to go through it all again.

LSP123 wrote:

Thanks, guys. What I understand is that the TRC scheme could be 'withdrawn' at a whim or fancy. My fear is that by late this year, it could suffer that fate. Should I lose out on couple of months and even apply now since I understand the scheme is in operation ? Advice appreciated..

Your perspective is revealed by your vocabulary.   Most obvious is that you refer the Spousal TRC which is a codified government policy as a "scheme"  The word scheme can be value neutral but is usually used to denote something illegal or unethical.  There may be schemes to extract extra fees (bribes) on behalf of lower and mid-level officials but the basic structure is policy.

The Communist Party of Vietnam while not entirely democratic has come a long way from the Stalinist days of Le Duan.  Things like immigration rules are debated and voted on by deliberative bodies at different levels and people don't disappear when they are on the losing side of a vote.  I don't know what level of government establishes immigration rules but they are not simply devised by one person who can "withdraw [them] at a whim or fancy."  It is true that foreigners have no input and even less knowledge of what is going on in government.  Even with a free press these things would still be confusing if one did not speak Tiếng Việt.  Also the press in Vietnam usually, but not always, reports government actions only after the debate is over with.  Sadly the roll-out of policies into the more remote provinces really does seem to take longer than it should in this era of electronic communication.  These things make things seem more arbitrary than they really are.

LSP123 wrote:

I believe Colinoscapee, sometime in Oct 2017 mentioned that some of his friends were turned away in Vung Tau immigration office when they tried to apply TRC. Thus, it shows that the officers can withdraw this 'scheme' at any time, with no qualms or accountability to anyone..therein lies my fear!

The reason the agents didn't do the TRC was a money issue. By law you can apply to do it yourself. The agents at the office I was referring to like you to use an independent visa broker, that way they will get a kickback from the broker.

l3ully wrote:

There has no law changed regarding TRC within the past few years. TRC is for those, who invest/making business in Vietnam (legal), anything else ar5e tourist or working visa's
Whilst there a few advantages against visa, A visa should suffice for most english teacher and other longer term tourists

I know what the TRC is, I have had it before. What I'm saying is, the agent in Saigon said that you now don't have to apply for the VEC before getting a TRC. She is saying you can apply straightaway for the TRC.

l3ully wrote:

TRCis/pncludes a work permit

If you go back to the beginning of this thread, you will read that it is about a TRC that is available to spouses of VN citizens and not about the TRC that depends on a work permit. 

Even the work related TRC does not include (I am assuming that is the word you intended to spell.) a work permit.  In fact you need the work permit first and the TRC (work related) follows.

l3ully wrote:

Spouses get their Spause visa, aka visa excemption

Spouses of VN nationals can get TRC as well. Type TT as @Andy.. said.

l3ully wrote:

yes, same alike i have now 4th in a row, just brooken, for aome weeks, because ,pssed renewaj

I realize that you may not be a native English speaker, but a little editing before posting could go a long way.

THIGV wrote:

l3ully wrote:

yes, same alike i have now 4th in a row, just brooken, for aome weeks, because ,pssed renewaj

I realize that you may not be a native English speaker, but a little editing before posting could go a long way.

I think that HAS been edited... 

LSP123 wrote:

Who is talking about VISAs here. With the TRC, you are free from visa application So!!

I've had the TRC type TT for a year.  Just like you described it in your last post.

It's incredible that people keep saying it's wrong, even though some of us have already done it.

l3ully wrote:

The spouse visa allows you to stay, work .. already

This is not at all true.  No visa by itself allows anyone to work, with the exception of the diplomatic visas and perhaps the DT and DN.  A separate work permit is still required for holders of the TT.

THIGV wrote:

l3ully wrote:

The spouse visa allows you to stay, work .. already

This is not at all true.  No visa by itself allows anyone to work, with the exception of the diplomatic visas and perhaps the DT and DN.  A separate work permit is still required for holders of the TT.

Assuming, you have a spouse visa/ visa excemption, because narried to Vietnamese... and you maybe work with her in her business...
then comes as a top-up?
Now, yu also did bring bring two minors ,, they are about finishi9ng school and want to start university here. what they would need to top-up?

I am pretty sure, you are going to ask for a trc and presenting the visa excemption, ythey just will send you away