3 Year TRC (Temporary Residence Card) without work permit

Marlan123 wrote:

Anyone has any idea the procedure to renew the trc which is spouse sponsored and the cost of it

Based on the timeline at the beginning of this thread, at least some individuals would have passed the 3 year mark sometime near the beginning of this year.  It would seem logical that it would be renewable as long as you are still married, but stranger things have happened in the world of Vietnamese visas and residency.

Marlan123 wrote:

Hi everyone

Anyone has any idea the procedure to renew the trc which is spouse sponsored and the cost of it

Thanks

Google it and 20 sites will come up with the process. Just go to 196 (?) NTMK Immigration office and they'll give you the forms and you can easily do it yourself (i.e, your wife will    ) She gets one page to fill out and have the police sign. You fill out another with your passport, etc. Then you need the marriage doc and if married overseas it has to be registered in VN now at an office in D1.  It was... $150 or so? I forget offhand but not very much.

snoopcat wrote:

Just go to 196 (?) NTMK Immigration office and they'll give you the forms and you can easily do it yourself (i.e, your wife will    ) She gets one page to fill out and have the police sign. You fill out another with your passport, etc. Then you need the marriage doc and if married overseas it has to be registered in VN now at an office in D1.  It was... $150 or so? I forget offhand but not very much.

Is that a first application or a renewal?  It sounds more like a first application.  Did you have to provide all the marriage documents a second time?  It seems that the second round should be simpler.  It is with the work permit.  However it is Vietnam so you never know.

Fancybear wrote:

I would like to ask if anyone can recommend an agent or lawyer I can go to to help get a TRC. I'm not married and not on a work permit and seek to have a TRC in order to make life easier with banks. Thanks for any suggestion

Not married and not on a work permit?  Are you an owner or member of a company?  Are you a student in a government approved program?  Are you an immediate relative of a TRC holder?

If the answer is no to any or all of the questions above, then forget about agent or lawyer, you'll not be able to obtain a real TRC.

Fancybear wrote:

I would like to ask if anyone can recommend an agent or lawyer I can go to to help get a TRC. I'm not married and not on a work permit and seek to have a TRC in order to make life easier with banks. Thanks for any suggestion

Starting up your own company is your only option.

Fancybear wrote:

Thanks for your reply by the way. I am grateful for this. I will quit Vietnam after 6 years of  the past 10 if this is the case. To be forced to get a job with WP, or marry, or become a student, or have relatives..none of which I can do (nor want too do). Just wanted to stay retired on tourist visas, Seems impossible. I have a decent chunk of cash..enough to buy  a condo. Have considered that route though but think it won't help with resident card. bank require a 12 month visa for time deposit or res card, so it is beyond me I think.

Pretty much the same in all countries.

Fancybear wrote:

yes, indeed. The financial system is always a tool of state to surveil and look at how to steer people

Open a company and get up to a 5 year TRC.

Fancybear wrote:

Thanks for your reply by the way. I am grateful for this. I will quit Vietnam after 6 years of  the past 10 if this is the case. To be forced to get a job with WP, or marry, or become a student, or have relatives..none of which I can do (nor want too do). Just wanted to stay retired on tourist visas, Seems impossible. I have a decent chunk of cash..enough to buy  a condo. Have considered that route though but think it won't help with resident card. bank require a 12 month visa for time deposit or res card, so it is beyond me I think.

If you have enough cash and/or income, Thailand may be your best bet. You can find a lot of information about the retirement Visa there on the Thailand forum

LSP123 wrote:

Your next problem will be how to get that chunk of cash out of Vietnam IF you did not declare it in the first place!  LOL.

I just asked my bank, who I have been with since 2011, and they said that I must show the papertrail of what I did with my money from the transfers. I have bought and sold land, they want to see all the documents relating to this.

If you transfer the money into Viet Nam and have all the relevant documents, plus you left the money in the bank all that time, it's easy enough to transfer it out.

My wife can put money into a term deposit for 3 months, then transfer it out with the relevant residence visa from my country. She doesnt have to prove where the money came from, but I do.

Fancybear wrote:

the amount of money needing to be kept in the account in Thailand would limit other income generating activities I fear. But thanks for your suggestion. I will look again at it. I don't have a pension with income from that on a monthly basis.

Thailand sounds like your best option or move to Tay Ninh and you can do a visa run round trip in two hours. 😀

Fancybear wrote:

I have a clear paper trail from a separate institution inside Vietnam from which the money arrived in the banking system. I wasn't depositing physical cash at banks but was  doing so via a regulated verified  institution inside Vietnam which I did investment activities with

Did the money stay in the bank at all times, thats my point.

Fancybear wrote:

good idea. I liked Tay Ninh. Quiet town and nice.

Moc Bai is just an hours drive south of there.

Fancybear wrote:

yes. The money stayed within the bank. My passport match between the 2 institutions. It's transparent to regulators as to how the money got to the bank it sits  in.

You should be fine to transfer it out.