Car rental

Emma Plant wrote:

Hi,
can anybody tell me how much does a car rental cost in Bali?
Do I need any particular requisition to drive there as a tourist?

Thank you! :-)
Emma

You can choose 2 way.

1) Ask international driver license before fly in Indonesia, there are 2 type, ask what's valid in Indonesia.
2) Buy the local driver license, the price is around 500.000 Rp. with visa on arrival. It is valid only 30 days. You can go inside police office when is close and ask at the first police man out of service " Can you help me to convert my driver license to local driver license? (smiling, is important)" . Usually if he can't make the driver license for you, someone will come and "help you".

You can rent everything you like. You can ask in the street, someone will come and rent you all you want. Don't pay up to 250.000 rp/day. With 350.000 - 400.000 you can find car and driver.

When you will sign the contract use one stamp 6000 rp for make che contract official.

Ubudian wrote:

-If in an accident you are automatically at fault.  Simple logic here…if you, the guest (tamu) weren’t driving, the accident would have never happened.  I kid you not.

This fact usually is a little bit different. Isn't a problem about logic. The local people pay for be fine, if you pay 200.000 - 300.000 rp to police man, you are always fine also. Local people usually pay 20.000 - 50.000 for be fine.
If you are smart, you can ask the driver license if you will have a crash. 95% of indonesian drivers or riders, haven't the driver license and you are autometically right about. Also if you will rent a car with driver, ask to see the driver lcense. Many, many, many time the drivers aren't allowed to drive.

lukereg wrote:

Very wise Tapiocapioca. There is nothing more annoying than asking for the policemans name number when being stopped. Having a pen and paper is always handy.
I always as for their ID. They seem never to like it but it is worth asking regardless of how they react.

I think you have KITAS or something like this, me also, they are fine and they gave me if I show my local document, they know my next step is take a picture and go to the boss and ask why they tried to stolen my money, and after their will be fired, but every time my dad was alone and show only passport, they tried to stolen his international driver license and asked 200.000 rp for have back (INDONESIAN POLICEMAN, CANT TAKE DRIVER LICENSE FROM TOURIST, CALL AMBASSY IF THEY TRY)! Also in historical place, I paid around 20.000 rp for visit and who had visa on arrival 180.000 rp.  That's Bali. I discover the question about buy the driver license in Bali, because the policeman stolen at my friend 1.000.000 rp in one day, not for enjoy.

Ubudian wrote:

Let’s clarify a few points here.

Firstly this string is about renting cars in Bali…not Jakarta.

In Bali it is common for street parking attendants to charge 2,000 IDR (regardless of the time parked) but they are neither police, tourist police or satpams.  They are however very helpful and useful in finding a parking space as well as stopping traffic for you to easily pull out once it’s time to leave.  They charge the same for either local or tamu.

These parking “assistants” are only commonplace in the more populated and busy areas of Bali…primarily the south.  In reality they serve a pretty useful purpose and even the locals appreciate their function and usefulness.   

“INDONESIAN POLICEMAN, CANT TAKE DRIVER LICENSE FROM TOURIST”

The heck they can’t!  They can also take the passport of any foreigner being held on any criminal charges. 

“Sometime touristic police will ask you tips..”

Tourist police in Bali do NOT ask tourists or foreigners for “tips.”

You can think this, all tourist can try on their skin.
I suggest don't carry with you much money or all will be in the pocket of police man, better take a card and not cash.
The last time my friend and my family totally paid around 3.000.000 rp, for fake fee (for local, penalty).
And the fake parkir also close the street to the sea and ask money for drive on, and they aren't the owner of the street, if you use the street behind you don't pay nothing, if this tax can be real, all street have a place where pay...  Also they ask money for park inside temple, on the sand near the sea and they aren't the owner about all these place. You always ask a recipt,if they are legal, they have recipt, if they haven't ask why are they asking money..

Ubudian wrote:

Lorenzo, you might consider reading people’s profiles before you respond to their posts.

I’m no tourist, rather I’ve been living on Bali (Ubud, specifically) 24/7 for more than the past 15 years, married to a local Balinese and raising our three sons with her.

Me too, I'm not a tourist, usually when someone live here in Indonesia is here 24/7, I think is normal.

Ubudian wrote:

Trust me, I know when I’m reading urban legends.

Urban legends? The subtitles are Netherlands but they are talking english.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHT1RKkkS3s

Ubudian wrote:

Sorry, but I’m not buying that baloney.  The police in Bali don’t go around extorting money from tourists or expats.  If you did something illegal they may well have fined you on the spot, but maybe you’d prefer to have to hang around Bali for a few extra days waiting for your court case and only ending up spending a larger sum than the normal "on the spot" fine of 50 to 100k for traffic violations?

Can you explain me why local governements made laws about? Not more 5 years ago Indonesian governements introduced really strong fee and jail about, because every policeman was in this way. For expat and local people, is common take pictures about policeman before start to talk, because they hide all reference and after try to steal money.
Can you explain me why wikipedia made a page about?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Indonesia

Ubudian wrote:

As for parking fees at some beach locations and a few temples, what’s your problem?

Those parking areas are on Banjar land and they are maintained by the people living in the Banjar.  They have every right to ask for a modest fee of 20 to 40 cents for the parking or use of that area.  Local Balinese pay these fees too, but you won't hear them belly aching about it, or asking for receipts either!

No no no, Indonesian law is clear about. If you wanna ask money for service/product, you need open a PT / PT PMA company. After ask a legal license for work.
When someone pay a ticket usually have back a receipt. Maybe you don't know, but in Indonesia also.
Indonesian law teach me, no receipt? The service/product is free!
You can read inside every legal shop in Indonesia this rule, also on governative website.

You can start to read here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Indonesia

This kind of local people aren't asking you a fee, they only ask your money for steal.

Ubudian wrote:

St. Peter’s in Rome costs 12 Euro for admission…that’s over 150,000 IDR.  Are you filing any complaint with the Vatican, rich as it is, for that admission fee?

If you go in Rome the admission is 150,000 rp if you are Italian, American, Indonesian, African ecc... They don't watch your face and after choose what price you have to pay!!!

Ubudian wrote:

But you’re right, things here aren’t always the same as they are from where we were born and raised.  The irony is, that’s why many of us prefer living here.

Maybe you don't know, but this is the local law. Excuse me but I don't trust you!

Ubudian wrote:

It’s pretty obvious you haven’t been an expat for very long.  The fact is most of us wanted to put that Dutch “journalist” in jail, I even suggested to the police that...

Ok, ok, you are fine... No corruption in Bali.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q … 5dh_uZRgd4

Ubudian wrote:

For me personally, nothing is more annoying than foreigners insisting that things be done here just like they are at home.  For them...the remedy is simple...go back home!

Probably you feel confertable with disonest people, you can. I'm not, I respect the law in my home and in Indonesia.

Tapiocapioca wrote:

Ubudian wrote:

It’s pretty obvious you haven’t been an expat for very long.  The fact is most of us wanted to put that Dutch “journalist” in jail, I even suggested to the police that...

Ok, ok, you are fine... No corruption in Bali.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q … 5dh_uZRgd4

There's probably an ocean of difference between saying that one guy is a jerk and there's no corruption at all.