Should a child skip grade in the school even if he finds it difficult

14POSTS

12 years ago

Should a child skip a grade in the school even if he finds it difficult to cope up ?
Why a kid should struggle too much for the reason that their parents want them to be ahead of others ?
May i have your opinion ?
when he can't do the work and is he just overwhelmed. If he's having trouble learning, get him a tutor is the only solution ? if he's having a hard time with kids or teachers , what should be done ?

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stumpy Laos Expert

18028POSTS

12 years ago

Welcome to Expat.com

Visit the school, talk to the teachers and find out the root cause of the problem.

If the child moves up a grade then the problem may reappear in that class and become worse.

A private tutor may help.

Primadonna Jordan Expert

5334POSTS

12 years ago

Why skipping a grade if he is not able to?
Poor child

aryavrat ViP

2081POSTS

12 years ago

Welcome to Expat-Blogs............

I think this child is very extra-ordinary..........For me he needs to be understand what exactly he thinks and likes......and definetly he will do well........why i am telling this is from childhood itself he knows that what i am going to learn in this grades whereas i am for something else.........

Regards,
Anil

All well Member

14POSTS

12 years ago

Thanks for your opinion friends ! But my problem is different , may be you took it in other way , i didn't mentioned that the child is willing . It is what his parents want to do so even if he is struggling a lot . Should parents push the child to skip the grade and what is the use of it in long run ?

Primadonna Jordan Expert

5334POSTS

12 years ago

If you have proof and good argumentation that it is not good for the child you should definite talk to his parents and try this forcing behavior out of their mind. Let the principle or the manager do the talking, it will give more weight to this conversation then his teacher.
If they stand by their discussion you can tell what the consequences will be for the boy.
He will be unhappy and angry and maybe difficult to handle, is this what they want?

All well Member

14POSTS

12 years ago

Thanks for feeling the pain , even i think the same for the child . What can be done in such case ?

aryavrat ViP

2081POSTS

12 years ago

What i can understand is that there is no problem with the child and the actual problem is with the parents..........you know the major problem for a child is that no body is willing to understand a child what he/she want but we put our lackings in the child....means what we are unable to achieve we put that pressur on the child ............he has to do this.....which i see corrupting a child as well as making him/her as slave........may be i am wrong but if only few child grows to the maximum level and rest can't is this one of the reason...............

Regards,
Anil

stumpy Laos Expert

18028POSTS

12 years ago

If the problem is with the parents who are pushing the child, then they need to be made aware of what they are doing to the child and the long term effects of this on the child.

This happens a lot with pushy parents trying to force the child into being better than they were and to achieve goals that they missed out on and are realistically unachievable for the poor child.

All well Member

14POSTS

12 years ago

#10

Thanks for your opinion primadonna I am fully agree with it but they argue that his Maths is very good , he is ahead in Maths but they don't understand that only Maths is not the subject he has to pass . How can he cope up with low English level ? And he finds other subjects difficult and unable to understand the concept .

All well Member

14POSTS

12 years ago

#11

Hi Anil , Hi Stumpy , what you think is right . Even sometime I feel very bad for him but the problem is that parents should understand what their child can do comfortably is good for him but not skipping the grade so that they can feel proud .
Is it good spending money for extra tuitions and telling him to learn more more and skip the grade .

Anita S Sharma Contributor

155POSTS

12 years ago

#12

Hey all well you have raised a good question, this is very big problem for kids. They don't know how to face this problem because they are not mature but parents should think about their social development too. Only academic excellence is not the key to success .

Primadonna Jordan Expert

5334POSTS

12 years ago

#13

Being good in maths is not reason to skip a level. Why opting for extra tutorials in subjects?
To press him more?
Like Stumpy and I said before: the parents are the problem, not the boy.

aryavrat ViP

2081POSTS

12 years ago

#14

You know even i was only good in Maths then by knowing to passed i have to work out in other subjects too...slowly i understand but i never learned other subjects for more then passing.........and it has happened till my academic career finished and today i am happy that no one has forced me to get good marks in other subjects otherwise i would have not been passed in the lower classes too............

Regards,
Anil

Anita S Sharma Contributor

155POSTS

12 years ago

#15

Hi Primadonna ! I am fully agree with you .

Anita S Sharma Contributor

155POSTS

12 years ago

#16

aryavrat wrote:
You know even i was only good in Maths then by knowing to passed i have to work out in other subjects too...slowly i understand but i never learned other subjects for more then passing.........and it has happened till my academic career finished and today i am happy that no one has forced me to get good marks in other subjects otherwise i would have not been passed in the lower classes too............

Regards,
Anil

Hi Anil I can say you are lucky to have such parents ! Everybody is not as lucky as you to have parents who can understand that child is not their property. At least they should discuss with him what he want to do after all is his life.

aryavrat ViP

2081POSTS

12 years ago

#17

So what about you .......are you allowing your child to do what they want...........

Regards,
Anil

Anita S Sharma Contributor

155POSTS

12 years ago

#18

aryavrat wrote:
So what about you .......are you allowing your child to do what they want...........

Regards,
Anil

Yes Anil , I guid them and try to help them but never forced them to do what i want because I don,t want them to fulfil my wish but their own desire.

aryavrat ViP

2081POSTS

12 years ago

#19

Thanks and its nice to hear from you that you give all the opportunity to your kids for their own wish and desire...........

All well Member

14POSTS

12 years ago

#20

Thanks everybody

Can anybody advise me how to make such parents learn the limit , I mean they can understand this is not guidance but interference with their school life which is beautiful experience for child but if it goes smoothly not being pushed all the time .

Anita S Sharma Contributor

155POSTS

12 years ago

#21

All well wrote:
Thanks everybody Can anybody advise me how to make such parents learn the limit , I mean they can understand this is not guidance but interference with their school life which is beautiful experience for child but if it goes smoothly not being pushed all the time .

I think they need an expert , must go and see someone , you can't give consultation as experts in education know their job well .

aryavrat ViP

2081POSTS

12 years ago

#22

All well wrote:
Thanks everybody Can anybody advise me how to make such parents learn the limit , I mean they can understand this is not guidance but interference with their school life which is beautiful experience for child but if it goes smoothly not being pushed all the time .

Hello All well,

I can suggest you that talk to the parents of that child and ask their wish and desire and also ask them what they want to be when they were kids.......and hope they will understand what happened to them should not happened again to their children..................hope this may work out.......but what Anits and Primadonna has suggested is also worthy......

Regards,
Anil

Anita S Sharma Contributor

155POSTS

12 years ago

#23

aryavrat wrote:
All well wrote:
Thanks everybody Can anybody advise me how to make such parents learn the limit , I mean they can understand this is not guidance but interference with their school life which is beautiful experience for child but if it goes smoothly not being pushed all the time .

Hello All well,

I can suggest you that talk to the parents of that child and ask their wish and desire and also ask them what they want to be when they were kids.......and hope they will understand what happened to them should not happened again to their children..................hope this may work out.......but what Anits and Primadonna has suggested is also worthy......

Regards,
Anil

Good suggestion ! It may work too.

aryavrat ViP

2081POSTS

12 years ago

#24

Thanks..........

El_Jost Serial expat

732POSTS

12 years ago

#25

I don't really understand the OP's question.
From 6 onwards I started in the British and later in the South African (equivalent to British) education system.
I can't remember there being any 'grades'.
And to me "skip" means to be absent from particular classes, either with or without permission.

aryavrat ViP

2081POSTS

12 years ago

#26

Only OP can clear us what exactly she want to say by Grade and Skip means...........
But what i understand is grade is like class or standard......and skip means going to another without passing that class or standard..........may be i am wrong............

El_Jost Serial expat

732POSTS

12 years ago

#27

aryavrat wrote:
Only OP can clear us what exactly she want to say by Grade and Skip means...........
But what i understand is grade is like class or standard......and skip means going to another without passing that class or standard..........may be i am wrong............

Yes, that sounds logical.
When we came back from S. Africa to the UK I was in a school for about 1 year. There because the school had so many students that they could not be in one classroom, each 'year' was 'streamed' into about 3 or 4 separate classes, i.e. 6a, 6b, 6c and 6d. Here 6a was higher than 6b etc. etc. Here was the opportunity for a newcomer to 'jump' from one to another, if done quickly.
In SA and UK when I was going to school the schools had to work to a syllabus set by govt. authorities so then there was absolutely no chance to 'advance' at the end of one year to the one above the following one. That would leave a gap in one's education, say in history, and in any case what one is taught in one year is based upon that which one had learnt in the preceding one, in maths, for example.

This whole concept of 'skipping grades' simply blows my mind, but then at nearly 70 I am a living dinosaur.
Nowadays everything seems to be done very flexibly. Not even sure if they need to pass exams anymore. I suppose they just leave it to teachers to decide who passes. No wonder the youngsters of today are getting dumbed down.

aryavrat ViP

2081POSTS

12 years ago

#28

I dont know exactly but all i know today there is no value of all these.....

Anita S Sharma Contributor

155POSTS

12 years ago

#29

Hi friends this has value for all kids.
To skip the grade or class means if a child pass 7th class he miss 8th class and jump to 9th class for example .
Now it would be very difficult to understand some concepts because he missed it by not going to 8th class. So he has to make extra efforts to catch up and study for more time and he will not have time to enjoy other activities which is essential for normal growth of child.

aryavrat ViP

2081POSTS

12 years ago

#30

May be it is in other way he failed in 7th and went to 8th...........may be i don't know......Only OP can explain...........

Anita S Sharma Contributor

155POSTS

12 years ago

#31

aryavrat wrote:
May be it is in other way he failed in 7th and went to 8th...........may be i don't know......Only OP can explain...........

Hi Anil , To skip a grade or a class doesn't men failed 7th class and go to 8th class .
It means a child pass 6th class then he go to 8th class instead of going to 7th class .

aryavrat ViP

2081POSTS

12 years ago

#32

But if it is possible make him/her to skip 3 to 4 grade at a time and save his/her 3 to 4 years ...............i personally dont understand .......what exactly it is........

Primadonna Jordan Expert

5334POSTS

12 years ago

#33

aryavrat wrote:
But if it is possible make him/her to skip 3 to 4 grade at a time and save his/her 3 to 4 years ...............i personally dont understand .......what exactly it is........

Its possible when you have an extreme high IQ. This is rarely the case.

In this case the parents of this boy wants him to skip one year because he is good at maths but in other subject not.
And we all know that this is not a good option, except the parent. And this is the problem.

aryavrat ViP

2081POSTS

12 years ago

#34

Yes Primadonna.....you are right and hope atleast we the posters of this thread understand the child's ability and strength..........

Regards,
Anil

stumpy Laos Expert

18028POSTS

12 years ago

#35

There may well be a saving in time as stated but there is no saving the child when he gets out into the real world and is lacking academically.

The parents do not seem to see this.

aryavrat ViP

2081POSTS

12 years ago

#36

I agree with you stumpy............

Anita S Sharma Contributor

155POSTS

12 years ago

#37

stumpy wrote:
There may well be a saving in time as stated but there is no saving the child when he gets out into the real world and is lacking academically.

The parents do not seem to see this.

Hummmmmmmmmmmmmm......... these parents think about themselves and their time not about poor child .

All well Member

14POSTS

12 years ago

#38

stumpy wrote:
There may well be a saving in time as stated but there is no saving the child when he gets out into the real world and is lacking academically.

The parents do not seem to see this.

Hi Stumpy, What you said is 100% correct dear, I am making efforts to find they way so that these parents can understand their child's ability and act accordingly.

stumpy Laos Expert

18028POSTS

12 years ago

#39

All well wrote:
stumpy wrote:
There may well be a saving in time as stated but there is no saving the child when he gets out into the real world and is lacking academically.

The parents do not seem to see this.

Hi Stumpy, What you said is 100% correct dear, I am making efforts to find they way so that these parents can understand their child's ability and act accordingly.

Can the school have a say in this matter and tell the parents they are doing the wrong thing and to keep the child where he / she is.

aryavrat ViP

2081POSTS

12 years ago

#40

Why the school will say ..........all schools and colleges are running by these parents......means when they pay heavy donation for get admission to the child and apart from these even the normal fee also school collect from parents.......so mostly schools are doing business.............today for me education is also a business , the more popular you and your school name you can charge more money from students..................