About the prices of giving birth in Brazil

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8 years ago

Hi
id like to ask about the Brazilian citizen ship by birth, i will visit Brazil next month and planning to deliver my baby if any one knows any information kindly reply my question
i read all the comments and it seem like all the Government hospital are free all over Brazil ? or some cities ?

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jland912 Serial expat

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8 years ago

#43

mk

If you search the forum you will find lots of information on giving birth and which hospitals are the better ones to use.

Jim

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mk_swe_83 Member

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8 years ago

#44

Thanks for the advice

abthree Brazil Expert

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8 years ago

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CraigF wrote:
Please don’t be a burden on the Brazilian taxpayers by having them cover your cost of having birth...

I sympathize with the sentiment. But, since the bulk of Brazil's government expenditures are financed through indirect taxation at a pretty high rate, anyone who spends any considerable amount of time here effectively becomes a "Brazilian taxpayer", like it or not, and regardless of his/her use of public services. Determining who's taking unfair advantage of the system isn't always so clear cut.

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mk_swe_83 Member

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8 years ago

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Thanks

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Well, If you analyze the situation, Brazil suffers a whole lot because of the gaming
of this loophole. To name a few:

1. Use of services that could have been appropriated to legally and morally deserving citizens.
2. More strains on the public budget in which Brazil would possibly look for sources of funding like INCREASED TAXES for citizens if this method becomes popular internationally.
3. They use anchor babies to enter the country easily in which at the regular method would disqualify them.
4. They use anchor babies for economic migration.
5. It´s a possible vehicle for escape of prosecution for crimes committed in their home country.
6. More competition on the job market because many parents stay in Brazil with the child. Again residents suffer more unemployment.
7. If the wrong person enters the country through that loophole, there could be terrorist sleeper cells that could endanger citizens and also provides easier access to other countries in this continent especially the US. That tall concrete barrier between the US
and Mexico is really appropriate.

robal

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8 years ago

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Please note that some off-topic posts have been put aside. We invite you to post only on the subject.

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jland912 Serial expat

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8 years ago

#49

Bhavna

Thank you very much. This forum used to be about helping people but as of late it seems a few are using it to express their opinions. Opinions can be important until it becomes an argument and people are offended or maybe even afraid to ask their question. I accepted my role here to help people whether I agree with them or not. Let's go back to helping people.

Jim

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Liman2017 Member

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8 years ago

#50

jland912 I agree with you, Let's go back to helping and stop judging people

Thank you for the advice

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#52

The aim of this site is for free flow of information and opinions to further help people.
If anyone intends to restrict and tie the hands of people to provide the truth, to reveal the abuses and even laws being broken by offending parties, then the purpose of this site is not served.

Opinions are important to promote free speech and to help members decide of which is right or wrong. Anyone can do what is right and what they believe is right as their purpose, but that same ideology or belief should not be imposed to others who does not believe the same way. Otherwise we might as well live under the dictatorship
of some governing bodies or individuals.

People come to this site without reading the rules and the terms and conditions. They
disrupt the proceedings and use vulgar offenses without basis. Lines fuse of all of a sudden to being a defender to an accuser and a judge as things progress. Civility
vanishes and things go to the primal animal stages.

People should read the code of conduct first. Anyone in this forum has the right to respond to incoming assaults by either reporting or issuing an opposing opinion.

We cannot control the behaviour of people or how they respond. I´m not here to please or kiss the rear of someone in order to remain or gain dominance in these threads. I´m not accepting roles of importance so that I´ll have more latitude to help without fear that I´m destroying my image as a just and a capable expert of Brazil. I would do my best to help people as I´m one of the oldest residents of Brazil, but within limits if someone ties my hands to tell the truth and to steer that individual to the right and honorable path.

If people has already made up their minds about all things Brazil, then they shouldn´t be here because
they´ll be surprised that people who actually live here has a different perspective altogether...

Lastly, I can be very creative to solving problems but I don´t sanction illegal activities or condone
behaviors that would degrade the quality of life at the place where I live.

robal

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#53

This forum is still and remains helpful to people. Knowing the current situation and the existing state of affairs is even better so that they´re forewarned to follow the existing rules. They´re welcome to come anytime and ask for help, of course ONLY if they follow the Codes of Conduct and the Terms of Agreement. It´s their due diligence and they are required to read that before commenting on the forum.

Let´s all get back to work!

robal

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stanza51 VIP Member

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8 years ago

#54

Seems like I am a bit late to the party, but I agree with what Robal and Jland has written.

Furthermore as we already know and just to clarify, there are no laws that are broken and if a child is born in Brazil then he/she is considered a Brazilian citizen.

Lastly based on the child being born in Brazil and being a Brazilian citizen, the parents of the Brazilian child have a right to apply for the Brazilian Permanent Residency solely based on the interests of the Brazilian citizen’s (the baby) future.

This is the law of the country and this is the way Brazilians are. Always welcoming everyone with open arms.

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8 years ago

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Stanza51,

I understand your noble mission to help people in need; **** but I´m afraid there are considerations of moral, legal and economic reasons why the Brazilian government should right away close that loophole like any other country to protect their own citizens. It´s like Political Science 101:

1. This loophole is or can be used to the detriment of the tax paying citizens and residents of Brazil. Brazil is not a rich country. Maybe they should target Norway which has the highest per capita income .

2. This loophole can attract the lowest quality of immigrants that is not beneficial to an emerging market like Brazil. It could even attract terrorists and criminals due to that loophole.

3. When there´s influx of immigrants as they purposely visit and travel to Brazil to give birth, that don´t contribute to the economy but social-economic burden; there is increase of unemployment, hence an increase of crime when the population is strained. They have to feed their families and when the source is limited, many resort to crime.

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stanza51 VIP Member

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8 years ago

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Hi Robal

I respect what you are saying and value your opinion a lot, but instead of posting a reply here I will send you a PM or we can create another topic on the forum on which we can exchange our point of view about the situation.

There are positive and negative factors involved in any situation, I believe the government is well aware of the situation and have kept the law in place for a reason.

As far as low level immigrants are concerned, I understand what you are saying, there are a few people from the US even m, who had a criminal past but were granted a visa for Brazil based on which they arrived and later on after there child was born, they applied for there permanency.

The rest of the details I am sending you a PM about as the original topic is related to “the prices of giving birth in Brazil” .

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#57

I agree with Robal and if you would like my opinion feel free to drop me a message too. Even though I am a permanent resident here in Brazil, I pay a heft amount of taxes each year (more than the average Brazilian) and definitely have an opinion.

stanza51 VIP Member

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8 years ago

#58

Hey Craig

Robal and I are having a pretty good convo on PMs. Feel free to message me whenever you like.

Have a great day

Regards

Stanza

MotoEspresso Active member

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8 years ago

#59

We gave birth to our daughter in 2011 at Hospital Sâo Rafael in Salvador. I don't remember paying anything!

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reham09 New member

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8 years ago

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Can you please give me names of good hospitals public and privet that could speak English in Florianópolis

reham09 New member

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8 years ago

#61

From your experience what suggestion do u give for hospitals in Florianópolis privet and public

sergunka Member

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8 years ago

#62

jtp_redson wrote:
Our son was born last Saturday at a private hospital. We paid R$ 3970 total. Included everything (2 days stay) and no extra costs. This was in Fortaleza at Hospital Eugenia Pinheiro.

Parabéns e muito obrigado pelo info!

We are also in Fortaleza and plan due date in the beginning of May.

Do we need to get a CPF before going to the hospital, or foreigner's passport would suffice?

Also, does anybody at Hospital Eugênia Pinheiro speak any English?

jtp_redson Member

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8 years ago

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sergunka wrote:
Parabéns e muito obrigado pelo info!

We are also in Fortaleza and plan due date in the beginning of May.

Do we need to get a CPF before going to the hospital, or foreigner's passport would suffice?

Also, does anybody at Hospital Eugênia Pinheiro speak any English?

Thank you! Congratulations in advance for you as well.

I am not sure if they would require the CPF but it is very easy for anyone to get the CPF. You go to a post office to fill out the CPF application form and then go to Receita Federal office in downtown to get the actual CPF.

They only ask for all the details of the mother in the hospital. So you will need an ID (Brasilian or foreign), birth date, address, your blood group etc.

I have not seen anyone speak English at the hospital. One of the security guard was a Portuguese gringo though but he spoke Portuguese too.

Just make sure that your name is spelled correctly (and is complete) in the hospital to avoid any problems at birth registration.

It is best to come early (if not here already) and look for hospitals and start contacting them.

Also, if you are going for a C-section, you can select your doctor. So better is to find a good doctor first and then schedule with him either normal or C-section delivery. Our doctor was Dr. Paulo Abilio S. Rodrigues.

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abslaps Member

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8 years ago

#64

I am currently living in Brazil but need to return to the US in the fall, and will come back in December. What are the best health insurances to be able to give birth in a private hospital at low cost? Does anyone know about giving birth in Brasília?
Thanks so much for these helpful comments.

Anakumar Member

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8 years ago

#65

Hi ,
I am planning to come Florianopolis for giving birth ,so i need some help can you plz tell me that which is the best hospital there in Floripa for giving birth i have cervix cerclage may be you must know that in my condition in 35 th week dr have to cut my stitches and after that i can give birth.thank you in advance.

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6 years ago

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SamailaD Member

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6 years ago

#67

Hello, My name is Evelyn, I would need help on birthing in brazil, I would really appreciate if you coukd help with information on how to go about it.

Texanbrazil ViP

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6 years ago

#68

I will only speak from an experience that occurred. A lady visiting from an EU country became very ill. She only spoke English and a friend she was visiting took her to the emergency room. Long story short it was a miscarriage and all that could be done did not help and she passed away. The friend signed the admitting slip and the hospital presented her with a $5,000 U$D bill which she could not pay.
She is now in a legal battle and interest on the $5K is 7% per month. The birthing or other situations are not free. As said there are doctors, specialists which bill separate from a SUS and all should be aware.

MotoEspresso Active member

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6 years ago

#69

wow..what a horror story and sad for the one who passed away.
Any chance you know Gloria F. from Bahia?
Have a good day!

Texanbrazil ViP

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6 years ago

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No, sorry. I am in the SW. Parana, Foz do Iguacu.

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6 years ago

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The federal government waking up and starting to crack down...

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Texanbrazil wrote:
I will only speak from an experience that occurred. A lady visiting from an EU country became very ill. She only spoke English and a friend she was visiting took her to the emergency room. Long story short it was a miscarriage and all that could be done did not help and she passed away. The friend signed the admitting slip and the hospital presented her with a $5,000 U$D bill which she could not pay.
She is now in a legal battle and interest on the $5K is 7% per month. The birthing or other situations are not free. As said there are doctors, specialists which bill separate from a SUS and all should be aware.

I can just imagine if she signed an invitation letter for that friend. It would be very difficult for the debt
forgiveness...

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arman737ng Active member

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5 years ago

#73

Public : Free

Private: 2000-2500 usd (depends)

okekewan2020 Member

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4 years ago

#74

Hello everyone,

Please I need advise from this wonderful forum. My wife is 25 weeks pregnant and we are planning to give birth in Brazil. Please I need references for good private hospitals in Sao Paulo and the best way to go about accommodation.

Thank you.

Alex Paraná New member

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4 years ago

#75

Hi,

This was my experience in late 2020. My wife is Brazilian; I am not Brazilian (at that time I had a visa). We live in central Paraná.

We had to visit the medical system way before my child's due date. Initially, we stopped at a private hospital. After the examination, the attending doctor referred us to a local public children's hospital. The doctor stated that their bill would be huge; I didn't receive a quote.

My understanding is that the public children's hospital will not accept everyone. Normally, the expecting mothers would be already under a doctor's care; we have not selected a doctor nor visited one yet, before the emergency. Because the first Doctor referred us, the hospital accepted us. (In USA, we have used midwives for our other children and had completed the normal prenatal visits for the current pregnancy.) I provided the USA prenatal checkup reports, but we received flack from the hospital staff for not having our own Brazilian doctor. If I had to repeat the event, I would make sure not be in Brazil, but be at home in the USA.

Our new born had to stay in the hospital for 3 weeks. Now, all is well. The hospital services were for free.

Personally, I have other complaints about my Brazilian experience, but overall the hospital was modern and ready to help our growing family.

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Alex Paraná New member

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4 years ago

#76

A social worker at the hospital completed the paperwork fir the CPF.

Beware: Since I only had my USA passport with visa (and marriage certificate), the social worker would not allow my name to be on my child's documents. And my last name would not be allowed for my child! Brazil is not my cup of tea!

sprealestatebroker ViP

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4 years ago

#77

According to the figures she posted, this goes about USD $3,000 to USD $5,000. Not a whole lot for a procedure if you are admitted into a top grade hospital or maternity with a pre-natal care, delivery , follow up and recovery.

Take that to the US, and see how much the tab runs through. Or better yet, multiply it by 10x.

She is asking the wrong questions.... as of

1.What is worth having a healthy baby delivery and not run the risk of dying at the conception under the assumption of medical of malpractice?

2.What are you getting for the money spent?

3. What quality of services rendered are you to expect and through referrals

You can have access to free health care in Brazil, only it is substandard. This is a country where Health Care is a business, this is not Europe or Canada.

You get what you paid for.