Divorce to Saudi man

Shemsa Active member

39POSTS

10 years ago

Hello everyone
Pls I would like some advice.
I'm married to a Saudi man and live in RIyadh.. I want a divorce for valid reasons.We have 2 children: 3 year old and 1 year old.. He says if we divorce he will take the children.. Is this correct? I'm British nationality but originally from another muslim country..
I'm also willing to stay in KSA just for the children but he says no.. What would happen if I went to the court.. He says if I do he won't let me see the children again.. So I'm scared.. The only option at the moment is to stay for the children.. But I'm suffering a lot and it's not good for the children or my health...

Any advice appreciated..
May Allah reward u all in goodness in advance.

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amirshk Contributor

185POSTS

10 years ago

but why u want divorced n how n where did u get marry? give some back ground so anyone can suggest u wht n how to do?

Revert123 New member

5POSTS

10 years ago

Asalaamu alaykum,

Islamically you have the right to the children. The only time this changes is if you get remarried. Interms of the Saudi court system...I'm sorry, I have no idea. May Allah protect you and aid you in your affairs. Ameen

Shemsa Active member

39POSTS

10 years ago

I'm on his iqama so as far as i know I have to leave the country in case of divorce.. because he's my sponsor to stay here.. And as far as i'm aware the courts want the children to be brought up in a islamic environment, so the father will get custody. Pls someone correct me if I'm wrong.. I'm willing to stay in saudi after divorce but don't know if that's possible..

live.ali Guest

0POSTS

10 years ago

Shemsa wrote:
I'm on his iqama so as far as i know I have to leave the country in case of divorce.. because he's my sponsor to stay here.. And as far as i'm aware the courts want the children to be brought up in a islamic environment, so the father will get custody. Pls someone correct me if I'm wrong.. I'm willing to stay in saudi after divorce but don't know if that's possible..

I reckon because you are married to a Saudi man do you need a permission from him to leave the country? Take your kids and leave. Send him divorce from UK. Use the Saudi Embassy there.

Perhaps he is just bluffing to blackmail you. But if you don't want to take chances, read above.

Regards

Shemsa Active member

39POSTS

10 years ago

@live.ali
Yes.. I need his permission to leave the country.. I can't leave with my children without his permission.. and he doesn't want to give me permission.

Akprince Serial expat

352POSTS

10 years ago

1. Don't ask divorce and try to go your embassy and ask further help i am sure you can get good advice and help.
2. If you are on his Iqama it's mean he brought you here after married? or you was in an other sponsor and after married you transfer to under his sponsorship?
3. Kids should be with mom until they can't choose or decide what good for them, and father have to provide wealth support until kids come 18+, it's your right fight for that.
4. He have right to send you back in your home country too if he is rude and cruel man, because you are under his sponsorship.
5. Don't show him you want divorce be polite and relax, when it's come ok take kids and your passport and go to your embassy , tell them you and your kids are not safe with him, you want legally divorce and send back me to my home land with kids, or you wish to marry someone else after finish with him, much better.

Shemsa wrote:
Hello everyone
Pls I would like some advice.
I'm married to a Saudi man and live in RIyadh.. I want a divorce for valid reasons.We have 2 children: 3 year old and 1 year old.. He says if we divorce he will take the children.. Is this correct? I'm British nationality but originally from another muslim country..
I'm also willing to stay in KSA just for the children but he says no.. What would happen if I went to the court.. He says if I do he won't let me see the children again.. So I'm scared.. The only option at the moment is to stay for the children.. But I'm suffering a lot and it's not good for the children or my health...
Any advice appreciated..
May Allah reward u all in goodness in advance.

murugesanme Member

17POSTS

10 years ago

Better, TRY options with Embassy

legallegal2007 Active member

78POSTS

10 years ago

Shemsa wrote:
Hello everyone
Pls I would like some advice.
I'm married to a Saudi man and live in RIyadh.. I want a divorce for valid reasons.We have 2 children: 3 year old and 1 year old.. He says if we divorce he will take the children.. Is this correct? I'm British nationality but originally from another muslim country..
I'm also willing to stay in KSA just for the children but he says no.. What would happen if I went to the court.. He says if I do he won't let me see the children again.. So I'm scared.. The only option at the moment is to stay for the children.. But I'm suffering a lot and it's not good for the children or my health...
Any advice appreciated..
May Allah reward u all in goodness in advance.

Hi,

Sorry to hear that.

Best thing to do is to consult a law firm for such a sensitive family matter, since the consequences is very serious.

Good luck.

m4e Member

11POSTS

10 years ago

#10

You can stay after divorce and also you will
Be treated as a citizen And that, considering your children are Saudis But it is not easy and needs time

Shemsa Active member

39POSTS

10 years ago

#11

Contacted embassy(via email) they sent me a list of lawyers that's it.. They don't seem to care, even though I told them I'm in a bad situation.

Akprince Serial expat

352POSTS

10 years ago

#12

Go by your self my dear, and talk to them personally, you can find better way to settle this situation.

Shemsa wrote:
Contacted embassy(via email) they sent me a list of lawyers that's it.. They don't seem to care, even though I told them I'm in a bad situation.

Nassergorsi Active member

48POSTS

10 years ago

#13

Really sorry to hear about that sis.
I hope everything will settle at your side and your life will be normal soon.
Regards
(Your brother from another mother)

Shemsa Active member

39POSTS

10 years ago

#14

I would if i could

Shemsa Active member

39POSTS

10 years ago

#15

Ru sure??Will i have to leave the country intually after the Divorce until the paperwork is done or what??

Shemsa Active member

39POSTS

10 years ago

#16

What if they can't do anything and then my husbond wants me to leave the country?? Also I can't leave the house without my husband I have 2 young children, and he wouldn't let me.

gunner757 ViP

1072POSTS

10 years ago

#17

Why don't you apply for Saudi passport ?

Ehtesham ViP

1296POSTS

10 years ago

#18

Hello,
I am sorry to know about your situation and I understand you have your reasons but still divorce must be the last option. Have you approached someone or a social worker to settle your relation with your husband?
Before you decide, just want you to understand the facts I have posted in your inbox.
Also this topic cannot be covered here, self educate yourself on Shariah Laws and child custody by googling and going through below links.

expertlaw.com/library/family_law/islamic_custody.html

saudiwoman.me/2009/04/07/divorce-in-saudi-arabia/

Shemsa Active member

39POSTS

10 years ago

#19

Thank u for all ur replies and help
Jazakallah Allah heir

Akprince Serial expat

352POSTS

10 years ago

#20

How you can live with someone and have kids, if you are not legally married to him? Islamically married acceptable frot of Allah not front of this country laws, because you should have any proof, how you can claim somewhere he is your husband and those are your kids, ... it's seems your situation turning to somewhere else,...

Shemsa wrote:
Not been officially married 5 years, islamically we have been married 6 years but no proof of that

Shemsa Active member

39POSTS

10 years ago

#21

Ak prince
Hmm interesting analysis

live.ali Guest

0POSTS

10 years ago

#22

Shemsa wrote:
Not been officially married 5 years, islamically we have been married 6 years but no proof of that

How did you get an iqama here and gave birth?

Shemsa Active member

39POSTS

10 years ago

#23

May Allah bless all our marriages and help us choose the right partners and have a nice family life Ameen

Akprince Serial expat

352POSTS

10 years ago

#24

AAMEEN.... That's why I am still single.. and looking for right one ...

Shemsa wrote:
May Allah bless all our marriages and help us choose the right partners and have a nice family life Ameen

Shemsa Active member

39POSTS

10 years ago

#25

I'm still looking for suggestions/solutions so if u can help please post a comment.

XB23 ViP

1132POSTS

10 years ago

#26

Shemsa wrote:
as far as i'm aware the courts want the children to be brought up in a islamic environment, so the father will get custody. Pls someone correct me if I'm wrong.. I'm willing to stay in saudi after divorce but don't know if that's possible..

You might want to research this or get an answer from someone who knows. A person already said you get custody. If you do, then divorce, and leave the country with them. Maybe you should be looking into this as a serious option.

Shemsa Active member

39POSTS

10 years ago

#27

Shemsa Active member

39POSTS

10 years ago

#28

XB23 wrote:
Shemsa wrote:
as far as i'm aware the courts want the children to be brought up in a islamic environment, so the father will get custody. Pls someone correct me if I'm wrong.. I'm willing to stay in saudi after divorce but don't know if that's possible..

You might want to research this or get an answer from someone who knows. A person already said you get custody. If you do, then divorce, and leave the country with them. Maybe you should be looking into this as a serious option.

Get an answer from who? I'm assuming I have to go to court for them to decide who to give custody..most people say he will get custody.. but someone said I can stay here.

XB23 ViP

1132POSTS

10 years ago

#29

From someone who has real knowledge of child custody/family law. You need to get an expert involved if possible, rather than relying on what other laymen are saying. Maybe it's you who will get custody.

Shemsa Active member

39POSTS

10 years ago

#30

XB23 wrote:
From someone who has real knowledge of child custody/family law. You need to get an expert involved if possible, rather than relying on what other laymen are saying. Maybe it's you who will get custody.

I know that would be ideal but id rather my husbond did not know initially about any advice I'm getting, but he won't let me go anywhere without him.. Maybe i can speak to someone over the phone.. Don't know if they can do anything over the phone..I know this sounds complicated but it's reality.. I just know of a women who married a saudi and they split up and the women left the country without her children(im not sure if she seeked or was able to get any advice or not or went to Court however)
So i need to make sure before i do anything..do u know about child custody family law here im saudi or just im UK?? I mean The children r meant to go with the mother until they r able to take care of themselves i know that.. But Because im on my husbonds iqama, not saudi etc im worried in case of Divorce i have to leave.. It sounds cruel to b honest but i dont want to take any chances..

XB23 ViP

1132POSTS

10 years ago

#31

I don't know about legal advice in Saudi. I'm assuming there isn't anything such as citizens advice bureau/legal aid/free advice there? So I suppose any advice would cost money? If it does, would that mean he will find out if you pay for it. Seeing that you've got no physical freedom, I'm guessing neither do you have any financial freedom. You must have a lot of patience.

XB23 ViP

1132POSTS

10 years ago

#32

Ok just saw that you edited your comment and added that paragraph. Yes in Saudi. Worried that you have to leave the country alone, and kids kept in Saudi?

Yossef11 Contributor

115POSTS

10 years ago

#33

Inbox me, I am a Saudi Attorney

live.ali Guest

0POSTS

10 years ago

#34

Curious case. I understood you could only give birth in a hospital if you were legally married in Saudi.

XB23 ViP

1132POSTS

10 years ago

#35

Yossef11 wrote:
Inbox me, I am a Saudi Attorney

Why don't you give her advice on here, so that those in the same situation who come across this thread, can also benefit...

krayyem Member

2POSTS

10 years ago

#36

I'm sorry to read what you are facing. I'm Saudi and If I'm not mistaken, a new rule been published that a non Saudi mom for a Saudi kids has the right for a permanent resident, "even after divorce".

One more small advise, make a "male helper" plan Z .. there are punch of female specialist who can help you!

live.ali Guest

0POSTS

10 years ago

#37

There s two ways
One of them go to court first to avoid him send you as final exit, Judge should allow you to stay till the final desion and he will give you paper that nobody can send you out.
Second way Also you can go to britch console to send latter to the judge they will not allowed to him send you out.
but.. There is one problem.

Shemsa Active member

39POSTS

10 years ago

#38

Krayyem,
Thank u so much.. Looks like ur righ, after reading ur comment i looked it up and read this in some Arab newspapers in English..

i feel so relieved and happy u have no idea.. 'Male helpers' it states that Foreign wives do not need sponsor if that is what u mean?? May Allah reward u Ameen..

A.good.boy Member

12POSTS

10 years ago

#39

Hi

its better to get an advice from a lawyer , or you can ask your embassy,

the law is changing here, may you take an advice from a friend here based on old law!

best luck!

Shemsa Active member

39POSTS

10 years ago

#40

A.good.boy..
Thank u.. What u mean the law is changing? I hope nothing to do with women who have children with saudi Men/ married to them being able to stay in the country??