FAQ: From tourist visa to fiance per/spouse res permit while in Norway
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Welcome 
I do hope your application goes smoothly and get approved soon. Best of luck and good wishes on your wedding.
I do hope your application goes smoothly and get approved soon. Best of luck and good wishes on your wedding.
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Yes i received monthly email until it got approved.
Unfortunately during the time(2014) i applied the politi wasn't authorized to process this rare application from tourist to other permits,therefore my application was automatically forwarded to udi.
But during 2015 some people who were in the *same situation as me that i knew and helped got approved within 3 to 6 months only. 3 was by udi (6 months), 1 by politi (2 to 3 weeks: they were 45 and 47 years old) 1 by politi (3 months)
*same situation as me =(none complex applicants: no previous divorce, small age gap, the applicant has no children to bring with in norway, skilled workers, above 25, not callrd for interview)
Always keep in mind it is always different from one applicant to another.
I hope this helps.
Unfortunately during the time(2014) i applied the politi wasn't authorized to process this rare application from tourist to other permits,therefore my application was automatically forwarded to udi.
But during 2015 some people who were in the *same situation as me that i knew and helped got approved within 3 to 6 months only. 3 was by udi (6 months), 1 by politi (2 to 3 weeks: they were 45 and 47 years old) 1 by politi (3 months)
*same situation as me =(none complex applicants: no previous divorce, small age gap, the applicant has no children to bring with in norway, skilled workers, above 25, not callrd for interview)
Always keep in mind it is always different from one applicant to another.
I hope this helps.
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If UDI has contacted your husband with your DUF number then all you can do is wait. Some people have had to wait the full 18 months in the past and others only wait 2 weeks. Each case is different. You could try to apply for a D permit which allows you to enter Norway and wait for the answer in Norway with your fiancé. All the best.
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Hi Stephy25
You are always helpful here and I want to say thank you for that. This forum and your shares helped me a lot in my journey.
I just got married here in Norway to my Norwegian husband. We went to skatteetaten for me to change name but they didnt allow me coz I have no personnummer. I am only here with a visit visa (schengen). I didn't know that you have to have that number before you can change name.
How was your experience about changing name btw? I hope you can share info about this and others who went the same.
Thank you 😊
You are always helpful here and I want to say thank you for that. This forum and your shares helped me a lot in my journey.
I just got married here in Norway to my Norwegian husband. We went to skatteetaten for me to change name but they didnt allow me coz I have no personnummer. I am only here with a visit visa (schengen). I didn't know that you have to have that number before you can change name.
How was your experience about changing name btw? I hope you can share info about this and others who went the same.
Thank you 😊
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Once you get your residence permit, you will then register yourself in skatteetaten with your address here in norway(where you and hour spouse will leave) and in a week or two you will receive a mail in the mailbox containing the confirmation of your registration together with your personnummer.
Once you have that you can log in to the skatteetaten page and if you can log in with the id they require (like bank id or *minid) then change your name. It is a easy as changing your name in a social account.
*MinID= you can request this, just follow the instructions on their page that says How to obtain
Based on my experience may receive a call from skatteetaten asking if you are using the last name you are registering in your passport too, in my case my passport expired here and when i renewed it together with reporting my marriage t the Phil embassy they offered if i want to change my name and i did. I think this is because they don't want you to have any inconvenience with having different last names with your other documents.
And after that i received a mail that confirms a change in name and it was automatic with my authorization for my profession, Nav, and in the health records here in Norway.
I hope this helps
Once you have that you can log in to the skatteetaten page and if you can log in with the id they require (like bank id or *minid) then change your name. It is a easy as changing your name in a social account.
*MinID= you can request this, just follow the instructions on their page that says How to obtain
Based on my experience may receive a call from skatteetaten asking if you are using the last name you are registering in your passport too, in my case my passport expired here and when i renewed it together with reporting my marriage t the Phil embassy they offered if i want to change my name and i did. I think this is because they don't want you to have any inconvenience with having different last names with your other documents.
And after that i received a mail that confirms a change in name and it was automatic with my authorization for my profession, Nav, and in the health records here in Norway.
I hope this helps
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Hi Stephy
Thank you for your reply. Is there a way to change name before i get my residency? The reason is because of the papers and passport inconvenience if i still keep on using my maiden name. We are trying to apply the family reunification while here in Norway.
Thank you for your reply.
Is there a way to change name before i get my residency? The reason is because of the papers and passport inconvenience if i still keep on using my maiden name. We are trying to apply the family reunification while here in Norway.stephy25 Serial expat
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I think you surely can if you register your marriage in the phil embassy and change your name on your passport since you are married get married.
And when you get this done when you apply for your permit you can use your husband's last name. Then you can register in skatteetaten with your husbands last name when you register for your residency here after you receive your permit.
With this you will have your permit and passport under the same name
I don't know the exact process yet regarding this but this is my idea of it If anyone here knows it feel free to correct me if i am wrong.
I will read more on this and i will share what i will find
And when you get this done when you apply for your permit you can use your husband's last name. Then you can register in skatteetaten with your husbands last name when you register for your residency here after you receive your permit.
With this you will have your permit and passport under the same name
I don't know the exact process yet regarding this but this is my idea of it
If anyone here knows it feel free to correct me if i am wrong.I will read more on this and i will share what i will find
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Thanks girls! I was just afraid that UDI would say NO, coz I am here just on a "waiting_for_a_fiancevisa_status"...you girls made my day then I better write to them and ask for those letters
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Regarding the marriage part, marriages that took place in a different country are usually not recognized in another. Therefore it is required to register it in the country where you intend you present it,in this case to Norway.
I don't know the exact process in your country but usually it is:
-request a registered marriage certificate from your country's national registry
-have it authenticated on the ministry/department of foreign affairs in your country to make it recognizable by other countries as valid documents
You can read this at the skatteetaten website at the bottome part http://www.skatteetaten.no/en/Person/National-Registry/Marriage-and-cohabitation/Marriage/Marriage-abroad/
*if you are able to complete this, it will be easier to directly apply for family reunification as spouse
*also make sure to have the person living in Norway to call the authorities(skatteetaten/politi/udi) for confirming information
*if she is planning to apply in skatteetaten for the test certificate(a.k.a marriage license in other countries) she would require an authenticated a "certificate of no marriage" from your homecountry. Which will not be available if they got married already like you said and when that marriage got registered in your country that should've changed her civil status. Unless when you said that the marriage is not valid that may be due to being unregistered in your country.
So if there is a plan to remarry again on a tourist visa(i won't explain for fiance visa since that one is the permit that is really for marrying) and then apply keep in mind that being allowed may vary as there are many factors why a person will be allowed or not to do this. One must check with the UDI website by selecting the "want to apply" as it will give a customized process for an applicant based on many factors.
And a certain part there will somehow give you the answer if you will be allowed to apply while in side Norway, which is this question:
Which alternative describes your situation?
-have qualifications as a skilled worker and have legal stay in Norway
-has a valid residence permit in Norway
-have a residence permit in another Schengen country and have been in Norway for less than three months
-have a valid entry visa/ D-visa (not Schengen visa)
-Have applied for asylum and wait for an answer. Please note! You cannot have been given a final rejection and a deadline for leaving the country.
none of the above
What i shares here is the general or basic information based on my experience and a lot reading from proper sources. If there are questions that are related to situations that are different from mine, i suggest you make calls to the embassy/politi/skatteetaten/udi or whoever is concerned because every case is different. And i can never give an answer that will be of a 100% percent assurance whether your result would be good or not
I don't know the exact process in your country but usually it is:
-request a registered marriage certificate from your country's national registry
-have it authenticated on the ministry/department of foreign affairs in your country to make it recognizable by other countries as valid documents
You can read this at the skatteetaten website at the bottome part http://www.skatteetaten.no/en/Person/National-Registry/Marriage-and-cohabitation/Marriage/Marriage-abroad/
*if you are able to complete this, it will be easier to directly apply for family reunification as spouse
*also make sure to have the person living in Norway to call the authorities(skatteetaten/politi/udi) for confirming information
*if she is planning to apply in skatteetaten for the test certificate(a.k.a marriage license in other countries) she would require an authenticated a "certificate of no marriage" from your homecountry. Which will not be available if they got married already like you said and when that marriage got registered in your country that should've changed her civil status. Unless when you said that the marriage is not valid that may be due to being unregistered in your country.
So if there is a plan to remarry again on a tourist visa(i won't explain for fiance visa since that one is the permit that is really for marrying) and then apply keep in mind that being allowed may vary as there are many factors why a person will be allowed or not to do this. One must check with the UDI website by selecting the "want to apply" as it will give a customized process for an applicant based on many factors.
And a certain part there will somehow give you the answer if you will be allowed to apply while in side Norway, which is this question:
Which alternative describes your situation?
-have qualifications as a skilled worker and have legal stay in Norway
-has a valid residence permit in Norway
-have a residence permit in another Schengen country and have been in Norway for less than three months
-have a valid entry visa/ D-visa (not Schengen visa)
-Have applied for asylum and wait for an answer. Please note! You cannot have been given a final rejection and a deadline for leaving the country.
none of the above
What i shares here is the general or basic information based on my experience and a lot reading from proper sources. If there are questions that are related to situations that are different from mine, i suggest you make calls to the embassy/politi/skatteetaten/udi or whoever is concerned because every case is different. And i can never give an answer that will be of a 100% percent assurance whether your result would be good or not
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stephy25 Serial expat
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This process that i did and shared which is tourist visa to family reunification as spouse is not the usual way to do, in fact it somehow like a loophole in their system. That is the reason there is the "fiance visa" which is designed and recommended by UDI.
Another thing is other people apply for fiance visa instead of tourist because they want to have a hands on preparation of their wedding(a big wedding) here in Norway which is not possible with a tourist visa that is only valid for 3 months. I believe some people also wants to check out the the place and living condition with their partners first before jumping into marriage, thus the reason why one would apply fiance visa.
Regarding this tourist visa to res permit, there is also reasons why it is used and discovered. Like for me it was a surprise that after my now-husband proposed back then he didn't want me to go home which lead to me-figuring-out how to change visa without leaving him. For others they do to save time. Some does it to purposely lessen applications and payments. While some does it because they want to take advantage of the opportunity to stay be with their bf's even they are not ready to get married yet because it might be the only option for them to be together fast.
Therefore fiance visa exist because it is the UDI's way/process while the tourist visa to spouse is a loophole that bypasses the fiance visa.
I hope this clears your confusion
Another thing is other people apply for fiance visa instead of tourist because they want to have a hands on preparation of their wedding(a big wedding) here in Norway which is not possible with a tourist visa that is only valid for 3 months. I believe some people also wants to check out the the place and living condition with their partners first before jumping into marriage, thus the reason why one would apply fiance visa.
Regarding this tourist visa to res permit, there is also reasons why it is used and discovered. Like for me it was a surprise that after my now-husband proposed back then he didn't want me to go home which lead to me-figuring-out how to change visa without leaving him. For others they do to save time. Some does it to purposely lessen applications and payments. While some does it because they want to take advantage of the opportunity to stay be with their bf's even they are not ready to get married yet because it might be the only option for them to be together fast.
Therefore fiance visa exist because it is the UDI's way/process while the tourist visa to spouse is a loophole that bypasses the fiance visa.
I hope this clears your confusion
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hi dinvietnam.
since your friend is marrying an EEA/EU citizen and not Norwegian, yes, she can be eligible to take part to the EEA/EU registration scheme as a family member of a Polish citizen... this is different from the Family Reunification permit in terms of waiting time, requirements and qualifications... below is a simple differentiation of the two:
Family immigration (or Family Reunification)
-You can apply for a permanent residence permit after three years in Norway.
-You must pay an application fee.
-You will get the rights described in the Introduction law (for example the right to -Norwegian classes).
-The reference person must have an income of NOK 252 472 per year pre-tax and have had an income of NOK 252 472 per year pre-tax in 2015 (or NOK 251 856 in 2014 pre-tax).
Residence card (or EEA/EU Registration Scheme)
-You can apply for permanent right of residence after five years in Norway.
-No application fee.
-The reference person does not have to have the same level of income as when you apply for a family immigration permit.
-If you wish, you can apply for a family immigration permit at a later time.
-The case processing time is generally shorter than for family immigration permits.
-You do not have the rights described in the Introduction law.
to get further details, please visit the source here: UDI.no - The difference between a family immigration permit and a residence card for family members of EU/EEA nationals
hope this helps...
since your friend is marrying an EEA/EU citizen and not Norwegian, yes, she can be eligible to take part to the EEA/EU registration scheme as a family member of a Polish citizen... this is different from the Family Reunification permit in terms of waiting time, requirements and qualifications... below is a simple differentiation of the two:
Family immigration (or Family Reunification)
-You can apply for a permanent residence permit after three years in Norway.
-You must pay an application fee.
-You will get the rights described in the Introduction law (for example the right to -Norwegian classes).
-The reference person must have an income of NOK 252 472 per year pre-tax and have had an income of NOK 252 472 per year pre-tax in 2015 (or NOK 251 856 in 2014 pre-tax).
Residence card (or EEA/EU Registration Scheme)
-You can apply for permanent right of residence after five years in Norway.
-No application fee.
-The reference person does not have to have the same level of income as when you apply for a family immigration permit.
-If you wish, you can apply for a family immigration permit at a later time.
-The case processing time is generally shorter than for family immigration permits.
-You do not have the rights described in the Introduction law.
to get further details, please visit the source here: UDI.no - The difference between a family immigration permit and a residence card for family members of EU/EEA nationals
hope this helps...
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stephy25 Serial expat
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If you are pertaining to the record of marriage,when you request for this in skatteetaten, the paper that you will receive has translations to english/polish/spanish if i am not mistaken so you don't need to have it translated.
And the answer is No,all documents that needs to be translated must be translated by an authorized translator.
I am not sure about the process of registration in the Philippines but i have an idea. I think it is somehow similar to birth registration where in it starts locally then gets submittes to NSO. So i suggest you visit your local townhall/munisipyo to ask them how you could have your marriage abroad registered.
If others here knows the right way feel free to correct me
And the answer is No,all documents that needs to be translated must be translated by an authorized translator.
I am not sure about the process of registration in the Philippines but i have an idea. I think it is somehow similar to birth registration where in it starts locally then gets submittes to NSO. So i suggest you visit your local townhall/munisipyo to ask them how you could have your marriage abroad registered.
If others here knows the right way feel free to correct me
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Hi lady_diver.
the reason why you can't find a Philippine Embassy in Manila is simply because there is none
Embassies or consulates are representation of a government/country in another country.. so there is no Philippine embassy in the Philippines because you are already in that country..
about translation, in addition to what stephy already said, this is my personal experience. The official marriage certificate from Skatteetaten that came in the mail a few days after my marriage was in Norwegian language, so I had to contact Skatteetaten to order a translated version (this is free). Like stephy said, the one sent was a copy translated in 4 languages..
about reporting your marriage, this is normally done in the country where the marriage was officiated... That being said, since you got married in Norway, it has to be done in Norway... registration of marriage can be done by either parties, so you can have your husband register your marriage by himself, i will discuss more to it on the next paragraph... but if you want to register it by yourself in the Philippines, you can do this to DFA but this will be called "Delayed Registration of Report of Marriage"... I will provide a link below for the requirements on this registration... either way will work, and it only needs to be done once... The report of marriage is done in 3 copies, i believe this is because original documents goes to NSO (national registry in the PH), one copy goes to the embassy where the marriage happened, and one copy is returned to you.. but if you do it thru DFA while in the Philippines, it will be 4 copies coz DFA will have one copy for their record..
for my case, i reported my marriage while i was here in Norway, and I did it by mail. registration of marriage can be done by either parties, so you can have your husband register your marriage in the Philippine embassy in Oslo, either by mail or in person. which I think will be easier and less complicated since he can acquire all the necessary documents form within here in Norway (since you can just email him scanned copies of your passport and BC)... just check how much requirements there are to late-register a marriage to DFA
it has 9 requirements as opposed to 4 if done in Phil-Embassy in Norway... he can do it by mail, the payment can be done with an online account via bank transfer. Problem with the embassy website is that it doesnt say on the page for marriage registration what their account number is, so i had to do some browsing on their site to find it..
here is the link for the report of Marriage process to Philippine Embassy in Oslo: Report of Marriage - Philippine Embassy in Oslo
the account number to pay if you would register via Mail is here: Schedule of Fees - Philippine Embassy in Oslo
here is the link for information if you want to do a "Late Registration of Marriage" in the Philippines: Requirements for Delayed Registration of Report of Marriage - DFA Philippines
good read to find information on the importance of reporting/registering marriages of Filipino citizens done abroad: Why is it important to register a marriage done outside of the Philippines - Office of the Solicitor General Website
hope this helps
the reason why you can't find a Philippine Embassy in Manila is simply because there is none
Embassies or consulates are representation of a government/country in another country.. so there is no Philippine embassy in the Philippines because you are already in that country..about translation, in addition to what stephy already said, this is my personal experience. The official marriage certificate from Skatteetaten that came in the mail a few days after my marriage was in Norwegian language, so I had to contact Skatteetaten to order a translated version (this is free). Like stephy said, the one sent was a copy translated in 4 languages..
about reporting your marriage, this is normally done in the country where the marriage was officiated... That being said, since you got married in Norway, it has to be done in Norway... registration of marriage can be done by either parties, so you can have your husband register your marriage by himself, i will discuss more to it on the next paragraph... but if you want to register it by yourself in the Philippines, you can do this to DFA but this will be called "Delayed Registration of Report of Marriage"... I will provide a link below for the requirements on this registration... either way will work, and it only needs to be done once... The report of marriage is done in 3 copies, i believe this is because original documents goes to NSO (national registry in the PH), one copy goes to the embassy where the marriage happened, and one copy is returned to you.. but if you do it thru DFA while in the Philippines, it will be 4 copies coz DFA will have one copy for their record..
for my case, i reported my marriage while i was here in Norway, and I did it by mail. registration of marriage can be done by either parties, so you can have your husband register your marriage in the Philippine embassy in Oslo, either by mail or in person. which I think will be easier and less complicated since he can acquire all the necessary documents form within here in Norway (since you can just email him scanned copies of your passport and BC)... just check how much requirements there are to late-register a marriage to DFA
it has 9 requirements as opposed to 4 if done in Phil-Embassy in Norway... he can do it by mail, the payment can be done with an online account via bank transfer. Problem with the embassy website is that it doesnt say on the page for marriage registration what their account number is, so i had to do some browsing on their site to find it..here is the link for the report of Marriage process to Philippine Embassy in Oslo: Report of Marriage - Philippine Embassy in Oslo
the account number to pay if you would register via Mail is here: Schedule of Fees - Philippine Embassy in Oslo
here is the link for information if you want to do a "Late Registration of Marriage" in the Philippines: Requirements for Delayed Registration of Report of Marriage - DFA Philippines
good read to find information on the importance of reporting/registering marriages of Filipino citizens done abroad: Why is it important to register a marriage done outside of the Philippines - Office of the Solicitor General Website
hope this helps
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just to add, when we reported our marriage, I was already back to the Philippines when our copy of the report of marriage came back, which serves as your proof that the marriage outside the Philippines is honored and validated in your own country (I think it took a month of processing via mail)... and as exit clearance with CFO, (and as I was told, at DFA too when changing passport to married name), the Report of marriage is part of the requirements.. and since the stamped report of marriage came to my husband's address after I was already back in the Philippines, I asked CFO if they will honor a scanned copy of the Report of Marriage, coz I dont want to risk this important document to be lost in the mail.. They said its ok as long as I present an ORIGINAL MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE (I presented the translated copy I got from Skatteetaten).. so when you request for a translated marriage certificate, try asking for 2 copies.. its free anyways, and its better you have your own original copy, coz it will come in handy...
*EDIT:
and since the marriage of the Filipino citizen is done outside the country, the registration is done thru DFA (department of foreign affairs)... typically, marriages are registered thru NSO (national registry), if this is done inside the Philippines.. but since the marriage is done abroad, it has to go thru DFA coz I believe the documents will be validated first, before they (DFA) submit it to NSO for proper registration...
*EDIT:
and since the marriage of the Filipino citizen is done outside the country, the registration is done thru DFA (department of foreign affairs)... typically, marriages are registered thru NSO (national registry), if this is done inside the Philippines.. but since the marriage is done abroad, it has to go thru DFA coz I believe the documents will be validated first, before they (DFA) submit it to NSO for proper registration...
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You are welcome, i am glad to be able to help best of luck in your future applications
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glad i can help
yes, its less complicated to do it in Norway than in Philippines, just by looking at all the documents you need to submit to DFA and its good that you did ask the local civil registry for further steps so you yourself can validate if they are legit.. if you ask me, its a "sideline" for that person since the consular fee is only $25.00 (around Php 1100 with the current exchange rate) and the report of marriage abroad is not really done thru the civil registry nor NSO directly, but thru DFA or Philippine embassy since it involves foreign authorities which local government units have no jurisdiction on... government agencies in the Philippines had a lot of corruption going on, sad to say, and its still best practice for us to do research on our own and know the real process instead of relying on others words and their paid services....
yes, its less complicated to do it in Norway than in Philippines, just by looking at all the documents you need to submit to DFA
and its good that you did ask the local civil registry for further steps so you yourself can validate if they are legit.. if you ask me, its a "sideline" for that person since the consular fee is only $25.00 (around Php 1100 with the current exchange rate) and the report of marriage abroad is not really done thru the civil registry nor NSO directly, but thru DFA or Philippine embassy since it involves foreign authorities which local government units have no jurisdiction on... government agencies in the Philippines had a lot of corruption going on, sad to say, and its still best practice for us to do research on our own and know the real process instead of relying on others words and their paid services.... lady_diver Active member
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