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Brexit residency and health insurance

holymoly

Hi, I have recently moved over from the UK with my partner to the Netherlands. I relocated for a job. We are both registered with the local Gemeente and have our BSN numbers.

I have applied for my temporary residency successfully, however we are having a few issues with my partner. My partner is still working for a UK company remotely from the Netherlands. They are being paid in to a UK bank account and being tax.

In order to apply for temporary residency you have submit proof that you can support yourself. This is fine as we can provide a contract and payslips for my partners job. However my partner is required to provide proof they have health insurance. As my partner is not paying tax in the Netherlands they cannot sign up for mandatory health insurance as per required by law.

For temporary residency they will accept reasoning as to why you don't have health insurance initially but under Dutch law my partner will be required to get health insurance within 4 months.

We are wondering how my partner might be able to continue to work for their UK employer while living in the Netherlands, and still have health insurance as required in law

Suggestions?

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Ramses K.

Hi,

Your husband must have a Dutch health insurance if he lives in The Netherland. I don't know how it is goes for you after Brexit. government.nl health insurance

Cynic

Hi and welcome to the Forum.

A couple of points:

When your wife joins a Dutch Health Insurance scheme, it will be backdated to the date she arrived in the Netherlands, so you save nothing by not joining.

It's not absolutely certain, in as much it hasn't been decided in black and white, but the current view is that she will not be able to work for a UK company post-Brexit as she has a UK work contract that cannot be enforced in a Dutch court; as a resident in the Netherlands, she also has to have all the things a Dutch employee enjoys.  If her company wish to retain her services, they need to find a way to make sure they comply with Dutch law in doing so.

Some of the benefits she enjoys in the UK (i.e. company pension, payroll tax-efficient schemes) are in fact UK HMRC funded and are income that may be liable for tax in the Netherlands.

One word of warning; if you thought the HMRC were difficult, they are nothing compared to their Dutch cousins, the Belastingdienst.  You will both get blue envelopes drop through your door in the New Year, they are your Dutch Tax returns.  there is a double-taxation agreement in place between the UK and NL, this treaty is nothing to do with the EU, so not affected in any way by Brexit.  The treaty basically says that one country will not tax a resident the other country if the home tax scheme has already assessed them for tax.   As residents in the Netherlands, you will be assessed there on your worldwide income for the previous 12 months (Jan > Dec).  So income tax is not really a problem, but social taxes are not covered by the tax-treaty, so you will pay all Dutch social taxes (28%) on your worldwide income for the previous 12 months.  My advice is to go and speak to a Dutch tax adviser.  This happened to me when I first moved there and it was a nasty surprise that I hadn't thought about.

So, some food for thought.

Hope this helps.

Cynic
Expat Team

bmcc11

Please be careful too about assets in the UK. The Dutch tax you on your worldwide assets. I am renting out my flat in the UK and have had to pay tax on the VALUE of the asset not on the rental. I was also stupid enough to tell them about my UK bank account and they taxed me on the value of that too.

Ramses K.

bmcc11 wrote:

Please be careful too about assets in the UK. The Dutch tax you on your worldwide assets. I am renting out my flat in the UK and have had to pay tax on the VALUE of the asset not on the rental. I was also stupid enough to tell them about my UK bank account and they taxed me on the value of that too.


So you already paid taxes over your assets in the UK and then you had to pay Dutch taxes too? Weird.

bmcc11

In the UK, they do not tax on assets. They tax on the income from assets.They do not have a wealth tax.

Cynic

Ramses K. wrote:
bmcc11 wrote:

Please be careful too about assets in the UK. The Dutch tax you on your worldwide assets. I am renting out my flat in the UK and have had to pay tax on the VALUE of the asset not on the rental. I was also stupid enough to tell them about my UK bank account and they taxed me on the value of that too.


So you already paid taxes over your assets in the UK and then you had to pay Dutch taxes too? Weird.


The tax agreement between UK/NL only applies to Income Taxes; all other sources of UK income are liable to relevant Dutch taxes.

Ramses K.

Ah did not know that, but not telling the belastingdienst about your income abroad is not advisable. If they find out you are in deep shit.

Cynic

Ramses K. wrote:

Ah did not know that, but not telling the belastingdienst about your income abroad is not advisable. If they find out you are in deep shit.


LOL - my downfall was social taxes, closely followed by moving there in the last week of 1994, so I got assessed for the whole of that year.  I agree that trying to hide stuff from the Belastingdienst is just plain dumb; they have heard every story, from every country many times over.