Work Permit - Question about degrees

Wild_1 wrote:

Parmyd and DeeandFleur,

Thanks for chiming in.  A lot of times I find myself at a lost of words, when it comes to the thought processes of the younger people. 

DeeandFleur wrote:

You need 21 to complete a BA!

Really?  What system do you guys go under?  In the US, especially in California, we go by the quarter system; and typically, it would require somewhere between 180-230 units to complete a BA or BS.  A vast difference?

The UC schools go by the quarter system, many of the State schools (SDSU, San Jose State, CSU Long Beach, Sacramento etc.) go by the semester system (60 credits for associates, 120 for Bachelors), I don't know about other colleges in California...

I've been reading this thread with some interest...although I agree strongly with what DeeandFleur said about how "Online courses the world over are looked at a little differently and do not carry the same weight as courses taken on campus." (at least I do if she meant online degree programs, I doubt many employers would care that some individual classes were taken online) I would hasten to point out that oftentimes they don't have the luxury of making that determination anyway.

For example at the public college I attend in California, USA many classes are offered online and transcripts do not distinguish between classes taken online and ones taken on campus. Now at my particular school you cannot earn the entire degree online because not all necessary classes are offered online but many are and they're adding more all the time.

Which leads me to ask Bonesy...have you fully explored whether or not this option is available in your country? I only ask because you mentioned that the online school you are looking into is expensive. The colleges in my home state in the U.S. are not expensive (they are if you're an out of state or international student though) and as I said many classes are available online (and at my school some of the ones which aren't are available as short-term/heavier workload classes, usually 8 weeks but sometimes as little as 4).

Anyways just wanted to know if you considered it...

Nam,

Did they teach you how to convert semester units into quarter units?  Why chime in to something that you don't know?

Wild_1 wrote:

Cachua_anna,

Conntrary to what you think, I personally have had very good experiences with women, not just Vietnamese.  But, I have been around too much and too long, where I can confidently discern the good from the bad, the real from the superficial, with minimal effort.  I carry myself to the tone that the greedies and the phonies know to leave me alone.  I just don't like to see young fellas like Bonesy struggle with such messes.  Life is too short to spend dealing with such disgrace.

Whilst I appreciate your advice about women Wild, my original post here was for advice about permits

I know what I have, my head is screwed on straight and I have never been happier than when I'm with her.

Nam_ wrote:

Which leads me to ask Bonesy...have you fully explored whether or not this option is available in your country? I only ask because you mentioned that the online school you are looking into is expensive. The colleges in my home state in the U.S. are not expensive (they are if you're an out of state or international student though) and as I said many classes are available online (and at my school some of the ones which aren't are available as short-term/heavier workload classes, usually 8 weeks but sometimes as little as 4).

Anyways just wanted to know if you considered it...

Being perfectly honest no I haven't. I know there are open universities but from what I understand the costs would not really change.

I'm hoping to head back to the UK for a few weeks in May. If I do I'll certainly try and speak to someone about it.

Thanks for your reply

Bonesy the OU courses in the UK are very difficult to undertake from outside the UK. The courses are aimed at UK residents as you need to attend onsite courses occasionally or certainly used to.

They have now centres in HK and SG, but I haven't looked into the details very much so not sure how they work.

you can NEVER bypass a BA are you dreaming?

That is like getting a BA without a HS diploma

Which is not a very good example since you can thankfully get a college degree even if you didn't graduate from High School (would be kinda unfair to the kids who had shitty home lives if you couldn't huh?).

In my state you didn't even need a GED to attend college until about a year ago (I'm guessing people who have a HS diploma or GED do much better on average). In years prior (and this applies to current students who began college before the new regulations went into effect) if you had neither a GED nor HS diploma you'd just have to take an Ability to Benefit (from college education) test to show you were at college level reading and math after finding a school which would accept you (usually community college with open enrollment).

I should point out that I agree in principal with what you're saying and think OP's original plan may not be a wise option, I'm just really anal when it comes to pointing out any flaws in analogies I can find.

Wild_1 wrote:

Nam,

Did they teach you how to convert semester units into quarter units?  Why chime in to something that you don't know?

Who pissed in your Pho this morning? LOL. You said "In the US, especially in California, we go by the quarter system".

Well as a matter of fact the majority of State schools in California go by the semester system (as do many other schools in the state, many go by the quarter system as well, the conversion is irrelevant, they are not the same systems and both are prevalent) not the quarter system.

Neither that information nor your question to DeeandFleur which prompted it were particularly relevant to the topic of conversation (nor was my reply, but I was correcting a misstatement that you made...maybe things were different when you attended college?).

If I said something which was inaccurate please say what it was and please be as specific as possible so I can learn from my mistake. Thanks.